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THIS STATEMENT from the church who declares birth control a sin, sex outside of marriage as being adultery. Sex with anyone but your married spouse is (according to them) adultery. Gay sex is an "abomination" before GOD! And gays should be killed. But old men who have sex with little boys and girls who haven't even reached puberty yet - that okay because it's an "illness". Like a head cold??

Funny how the standards are so impossibly high for everyone else, and when it comes to a disease that affects millions upon millions of Catholic Priests throughout their lives - then it suddenly becomes an "illness" The stomach-turning hypocrisy and utter self-serving bullshit of that statement is beyond belief. WHAT THE HELL is wrong with this man? Is this just the generations of ingrained covering up for pedophile priests to the point where this Cardinal actually believes what he's saying? Oh I hope not.

You can reason with a liar and convince a hypocrite. But you cannot reason or change the mind of a delusional personn. Not ever!
 Quoting: MarkinAZ


It's because so many powerful people are involved and not just the priest.

I can only find comfort knowing God has a special place for people like this.

I also believe if you do not stand against it you are just as guilty.
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Homo-pedos have infiltrated churches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35474219


The Church is a neurotic-faggots magnet.

Always has been.

Oh and lazy-asses magnet too.
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You're a faggot defender yourself, so what's your problem, cock sucker.
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[ok, so then it really is a medical problem and not a crime
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If I kill someone because I have,say, low blood sugar, the death is still a crime. I should've been more responsibile about managing my hypoglycemia.
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The christian god raped 12-13 year old mary so what do you expect?
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Errr no he didnt .. get yr facts right ..... the filthy thieving murderous dumbass u are thinking of came onto the scene abt 600 yrs after jesus .. well known for his marriage / rape of a child
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Typical cock sucker.

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Pedophiles should be put out of their misery, period.
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yup, cut their balls and dicks off, stuff them in their mouths make them eat their own vileness and execute these sick bastards. same for women who do this.
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Agree ... but what exactly are u proposing being cutoff the female sicko's1dunno1
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Homo-pedos have infiltrated churches.
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The Church is a neurotic-faggots magnet.

Always has been.

Oh and lazy-asses magnet too.
 Quoting: TruthMinion


You're a faggot defender yourself, so what's your problem, cock sucker.
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His is actually the voice of reason, and it is just, there are pedophiles who don't act on their disordered impulses, and never commit a crime.
They should not be classed as criminals, if they don't commit crime.










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His is actually the voice of reason, and it is just, there are pedophiles who don't act on their disordered impulses, and never commit a crime.
They should not be classed as criminals, if they don't commit crime.
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 Quoting: K.Kool


But where are these self denying virtuous Priests who managed to control their impulses? Do they exist anywhere other than in theory?

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background checks on all 115. Let's see how many are worthy after it.
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There is no more pedopilia in the Catholic Church than any other denomination.

I love the way Cathloic bashers try to pretend there is. Facts say otherwise.

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The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members.

The figures offer a glimpse into what has long been an extremely difficult phenomenon to pin down -- the frequency of sex abuse in Protestant congregations.

Religious groups and victims' supporters have been interested in the figure ever since the Roman Catholic sex abuse crisis hit five years ago. The church has revealed that there have been 13,000 credible accusations against Catholic clerics since 1950 -- 228 a year.


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that Cardinal is trying to be a smart ass. Naturally it will backfire.
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There is no more pedopilia in the Catholic Church than any other denomination.

I love the way Cathloic bashers try to pretend there is. Facts say otherwise.

Excerpt:

The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members.

The figures offer a glimpse into what has long been an extremely difficult phenomenon to pin down -- the frequency of sex abuse in Protestant congregations.

Religious groups and victims' supporters have been interested in the figure ever since the Roman Catholic sex abuse crisis hit five years ago. The church has revealed that there have been 13,000 credible accusations against Catholic clerics since 1950 -- 228 a year.

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228 for the US church or for the whole world?
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His is actually the voice of reason, and it is just, there are pedophiles who don't act on their disordered impulses, and never commit a crime.
They should not be classed as criminals, if they don't commit crime.
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: K.Kool


But where are these self denying virtuous Priests who managed to control their impulses? Do they exist anywhere other than in theory?

[link to abcnews.go.com]
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia




First of all, we are talking about a tiny minority of priests,
0.3% to be exact.

If they have been convicted of a crime, they would be in prison, or placed however the authorities dictated.
The church complies with civil law.
If they have been released, they would need to be treated humanely.

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Homo-pedos have infiltrated churches.
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I wonder how many guys are suffering from PTSD from having this done to them.

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THIS STATEMENT from the church who declares birth control a sin, sex outside of marriage as being adultery. Sex with anyone but your married spouse is (according to them) adultery. Gay sex is an "abomination" before GOD! And gays should be killed. But old men who have sex with little boys and girls who haven't even reached puberty yet - that okay because it's an "illness". Like a head cold??

Funny how the standards are so impossibly high for everyone else, and when it comes to a disease that affects millions upon millions of Catholic Priests throughout their lives - then it suddenly becomes an "illness" The stomach-turning hypocrisy and utter self-serving bullshit of that statement is beyond belief. WHAT THE HELL is wrong with this man? Is this just the generations of ingrained covering up for pedophile priests to the point where this Cardinal actually believes what he's saying? Oh I hope not.

You can reason with a liar and convince a hypocrite. But you cannot reason or change the mind of a delusional personn. Not ever!
 Quoting: MarkinAZ


He didnt say it was okay to rape kids, just that pedophilia is a disorder brought on by sexual abuse they experienced.
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In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


The people who are unable to control themselves should be removed from society. If its not a criminal condition then it is a disease which requires isolation. This guy:


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The state sex offender registry lists Brown as a predatory sex offender known to target children ages 2 to 8. He was on parole for abusing children when the attack in Wendy's occurred.

Court records showed in the early 1990s, Brown was charged with 43 counts, including attempted murder and rape, in connection with a series of sexual assaults against children in Douglas County. Prosecutors said he exposed several children to HIV through sexual contact but those charges were dropped in the plea deal.

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Do agree whether its a condition or choice that people like that should still be removed from society though.
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There is no more pedopilia in the Catholic Church than any other denomination.

I love the way Catholic bashers try to pretend there is. Facts say otherwise.

Excerpt:

The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members.

The figures offer a glimpse into what has long been an extremely difficult phenomenon to pin down -- the frequency of sex abuse in Protestant congregations.

Religious groups and victims' supporters have been interested in the figure ever since the Roman Catholic sex abuse crisis hit five years ago. The church has revealed that there have been 13,000 credible accusations against Catholic clerics since 1950 -- 228 a year.

 Quoting: Bluebird


228 for the US church or for the whole world?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36235646



Those figures are for churches insured in the U.S. but obviously you are missing the point. The instances of pedophilia are no greater in the RCC than other denominations or the population at large.

It just isn't something peculiar to or more prevalent in the Catholic Church.

And I have always just had to wonder at people who report a crime to the person's employer instead of the police in the first place. Seems they are more about money than justice.
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He's right. Being a pedo is not illegal. Doing it with a kid is, however. It's the law.
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I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Are you saying it is a choice? Did you learn to be straight?

Can you tell me how you learnt to be straight?

Did you have a homosexual trial... and learn from that?

Did you have a test drive? Please explain hoe you learned not to be homosexual?

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That's beyond sick, do they really do that?
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The reason why these assholes prey on little kids is because they know that kids cannot fight back against an adult. That's why when this sort of thing happens, just drag the fucker out into the street and end his sorry ass! Bullets are cheap.
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I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices.
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Of course people are born gay, stupid!
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That's beyond sick, do they really do that?
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Yes they do.
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THIS STATEMENT from the church who declares birth control a sin, sex outside of marriage as being adultery. Sex with anyone but your married spouse is (according to them) adultery. Gay sex is an "abomination" before GOD! And gays should be killed. But old men who have sex with little boys and girls who haven't even reached puberty yet - that okay because it's an "illness". Like a head cold??

Funny how the standards are so impossibly high for everyone else, and when it comes to a disease that affects millions upon millions of Catholic Priests throughout their lives - then it suddenly becomes an "illness" The stomach-turning hypocrisy and utter self-serving bullshit of that statement is beyond belief. WHAT THE HELL is wrong with this man? Is this just the generations of ingrained covering up for pedophile priests to the point where this Cardinal actually believes what he's saying? Oh I hope not.

You can reason with a liar and convince a hypocrite. But you cannot reason or change the mind of a delusional personn. Not ever!
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I walked away from all religion many many years ago haven't looked back and no regrets. it lies it is a lie
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With that mentality in thinking, is the reason I left the Catholic Church. I cant be around idiots and hypocrites.
And never looked back.5a
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The church complies with civil law.
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Many claim it did not, because it did not promptly report all cases of abuse to the proper authorities. Thus this lawsuit:




The pope never disclosed what the influential priest had done wrong. Only later was it confirmed that Maciel had molested seminarians and fathered at least three children. In Ireland, where church leaders had shielded guilty clerics from prosecution for decades, the Vatican during Benedict’s pontificate refused or ignored repeated requests from state investigators for access to its case files.
Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]

We have no way of knowing what % of priests are/were active abusers, only an estimate of those who got caught.
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that's because they wear skirts, pink slippers, and either rape or protect those that rape children.... 'under the fold'.... what is not obvious?

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I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Of course people are born gay, stupid!
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They are NOT born gay. They have been brainwashed by the media to think that it's genetic.

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