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Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 36222452 United Kingdom 03/16/2013 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cool its a medical problem!! Quoting: Dr. Acula Well let us cut this the problem out! Start one small incision on the forehead with a chain saw... Insert a crowbar... Crack open the cranium and yank their brain out and clean it with acid... Stuff it back... Make sure it goes back in just right... Use a sledge hammer... As a tamper... Medical problem solved using a medical procedure... -Dr. Acula ...you forgot to mention the bolt of lightning. .....oh no...that was Dr. Frankenstein....sorry. The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 36222452 United Kingdom 03/16/2013 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate double posts... Last Edited by Brit Perspective on 03/16/2013 06:56 AM The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
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Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 36222452 United Kingdom 03/16/2013 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny So you don't believe, that as a mammal, your sexual nature is determined by your chemical make up? I mean, sure, EVERY other animal is subject to it's chemistry, but not humans. Oh no, they are somehow different. Nope, they just aren't bound by the same rules every other animal is bound to. And the moon is made of cheese. A weak argument, really, since those same chemicals that you talk about also govern the formation and function of the sexual organs of the gender. The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
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Citizenperth User ID: 35410550 Australia 03/16/2013 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup, they're right, it is incurable medical condition.. so burn the fuckers with fire...... simple.......... Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 03/16/2013 07:11 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1190661 Australia 03/16/2013 07:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny Of course people are born gay, stupid! Hahaha...are all Brazilians this stupid? Maybe you should hook up with the Aussies! Chip... How many times did you practise being gay before you chose to be straight? The Brazillian person is correct and you being wrong call him stupid. AMAZING! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1416114 Sweden 03/16/2013 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny So you don't believe, that as a mammal, your sexual nature is determined by your chemical make up? I mean, sure, EVERY other animal is subject to it's chemistry, but not humans. Oh no, they are somehow different. Nope, they just aren't bound by the same rules every other animal is bound to. And the moon is made of cheese. A weak argument, really, since those same chemicals that you talk about also govern the formation and function of the sexual organs of the gender. Please explain how that counters the previous posters reasoning. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4241515 Norway 03/16/2013 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny Of course people are born gay, stupid! Bull no baby is born gay they have no concept of it. |
Citizenperth User ID: 35410550 Australia 03/16/2013 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny So you don't believe, that as a mammal, your sexual nature is determined by your chemical make up? I mean, sure, EVERY other animal is subject to it's chemistry, but not humans. Oh no, they are somehow different. Nope, they just aren't bound by the same rules every other animal is bound to. And the moon is made of cheese. A weak argument, really, since those same chemicals that you talk about also govern the formation and function of the sexual organs of the gender. Please explain how that counters the previous posters reasoning. never saw chip say he fucked your daughter when she was twelve... what would you think..... Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 03/16/2013 07:19 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33514760 United States 03/16/2013 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This claim is horse shit. Sure there are some peds that were abused as children but these pedder-asses fuck children simply because they feel they have unlimited power, are above human and know that they will not suffer consequences. Pedophilia has always been involved in rings of supreme power |
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Citizenperth User ID: 35410550 Australia 03/16/2013 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This claim is horse shit. Sure there are some peds that were abused as children but these pedder-asses fuck children simply because they feel they have unlimited power, are above human and know that they will not suffer consequences. Pedophilia has always been involved in rings of supreme power Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33514760 ^^ exactly.. feel the sting of being caught.. i think everone would look the other way as you burn the arse to the ground...... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
SunnyDaze User ID: 26484773 United States 03/16/2013 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE personally I believe that anyone who is a member of the Catholic Church supports Pedophilia - it certainly isn't something NEW that just "cropped" up in their lifestyles ... its been going on - and openly discussed for as long as I've been alive why don't they just call it like it is ... the Church of Perverts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1190661 Australia 03/16/2013 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny Are you saying it is a choice? Did you learn to be straight? Can you tell me how you learnt to be straight? Did you have a homosexual trial... and learn from that? Did you have a test drive? Please explain hoe you learned not to be homosexual? AMAZING! I think people are naturally born straight. Some people learn to be gay by practice, such as being in prison, or heavily into dark occult practices, or because they were molested themselves as children, or a host of other things or circumstances. Still, my point is that actions are always a result of choice, whether gay, hetero or whatever (except in very rare cases of medical abnormality, such as one previous poster gave a couple of examples of. All sexual activity is performed by choice (excepting rape, of course). WOW! Then you need to research more before you have an opinion. How many people are in your survey group on this subject? If you chose to be straight you must be bi-sexual. I am amazed continually by this unbelievable assumption. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1190661 Australia 03/16/2013 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chip... How many times did you practise being gay before you chose to be straight? The Brazillian person is correct and you being wrong call him stupid. AMAZING! I knew I could hook you gays...er guys up. Gay Aussie, meet gay Brazilian..... And they sucked happily ever after... Chip... I'm straight ... So you are wrong again. Are you wrong in every post? It appears so! AMAZING! |
Jesus Freak User ID: 36286199 United States 03/16/2013 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any church should hang their beliefs upon what Jesus has to say on any subject. In this particular case: Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. The Christian religion does not specify an age for marraige, that I have ever read. I guess it was assumed that people had common sense and self-control to wait until maturity to marry. Sex is to be between a man and wife only. So there is no sanction for any other at all. Other religions, like Judaism and Islam allows underage sex, sex with slaves, etc.. I've read some of what their say, and not going to post them here. If anyone so desires, they can google it for themselves, Talmudic teaching, Koran and Hadiths. Glad I follow Jesus. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33728351 United Kingdom 03/16/2013 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The christian god raped 12-13 year old mary so what do you expect? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33728351 Errr no he didnt .. get yr facts right ..... the filthy thieving murderous dumbass u are thinking of came onto the scene abt 600 yrs after jesus .. well known for his marriage / rape of a child what? it is fact mary was between 12 and 13 when she allegedly got jesus. "She married Joseph and accompanied him to Bethlehem, where Jesus was born.[5] In keeping with Jewish custom, the betrothal would have taken place when she was around 12, and the birth of Jesus about a year later" joseph being a guy older than 40 at the time. so joseph was a pedo, then your god raped a 12-13 yr old girl and jesus os the result of this crime. also a pedo and rapist. just following your books facts ;) |
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Future Viewer User ID: 1344660 United States 03/16/2013 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Quoting: SheldonReturns The Catholic Archbishop of Durban, Wilfrid Fox Napier, has described paedophilia as a psychological "illness, not a criminal condition". The South African cardinal told the BBC that people who were themselves abused as children and then abused others needed to be examined by doctors. He was one of 115 cardinals who took part in the conclave at the Vatican to elect Pope Francis earlier this week. He said he knew at least two priests, who became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What do expect of the Church. But hey many Rabbi's and Jewish Leaders involved in this too! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33801296 Canada 03/16/2013 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS STATEMENT from the church who declares birth control a sin, sex outside of marriage as being adultery. Sex with anyone but your married spouse is (according to them) adultery. Gay sex is an "abomination" before GOD! And gays should be killed. But old men who have sex with little boys and girls who haven't even reached puberty yet - that okay Quoting: MarkinAZ You're full of shit. Nowhere does he say, it's ok. "Now don't tell me that those people are criminally responsible like somebody who chooses to do something like that. I don't think you can really take the position and say that person deserves to be punished. He was himself damaged." pretty darn close... Basically saying if the person gets caught, no criminal charges, just shrink time. Oh noes! Sounds like a free pass to me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1190661 Australia 03/16/2013 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661 Chip... How many times did you practise being gay before you chose to be straight? The Brazillian person is correct and you being wrong call him stupid. AMAZING! I knew I could hook you gays...er guys up. Gay Aussie, meet gay Brazilian..... And they sucked happily ever after... Chip... I'm straight ... So you are wrong again. Are you wrong in every post? It appears so! AMAZING! I disagree. I believe you're a nasty ass vile corn holing worthless fucking queer. And that's all I have to say bout that. OUCH! That hurt. Gee if I had realised I was talking to a rocket scientist, I would have used bigger words! AMAZING! |
T-Cain Top Hat User ID: 34857910 United States 03/16/2013 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Quoting: SheldonReturns The Catholic Archbishop of Durban, Wilfrid Fox Napier, has described paedophilia as a psychological "illness, not a criminal condition". The South African cardinal told the BBC that people who were themselves abused as children and then abused others needed to be examined by doctors. He was one of 115 cardinals who took part in the conclave at the Vatican to elect Pope Francis earlier this week. He said he knew at least two priests, who became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children. I was abused as a child. It most certainly is criminal in that even children SHOULD be secure in their person and afforded legal protection including the yet unborn. Now compound child abuse with forced, cult celibacy. No WONDER so many Priests turn into the same pedophiles as their abusers. It's a virtual guarantee. Celibacy is the culprit here. Allow Priests to marry and express their sexuality appropriately. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36256426 United States 03/16/2013 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny Are you saying it is a choice? Did you learn to be straight? Can you tell me how you learnt to be straight? Did you have a homosexual trial... and learn from that? Did you have a test drive? Please explain hoe you learned not to be homosexual? AMAZING! I think people are naturally born straight. Some people learn to be gay by practice, such as being in prison, or heavily into dark occult practices, or because they were molested themselves as children, or a host of other things or circumstances. Still, my point is that actions are always a result of choice, whether gay, hetero or whatever (except in very rare cases of medical abnormality, such as one previous poster gave a couple of examples of. All sexual activity is performed by choice (excepting rape, of course). so how to explain kids, having gay attractions when i was 7 in the 80s, i was attracted to boys/men i dont think its just brainwashing animals in the wild exhibit homosexual tendencies |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36238525 United Kingdom 03/16/2013 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what is called "nonjudgementalism", an insidious dialectic that is designed to transform from what is a near universal evil absolute to an acceptable practice in society. This is how those who want to make sex with kids an acceptable sexual practice: Redefine the perpetrator as a victim. Portray him as a victim. Victims, are sympathised with by society. Empathy and emotions are appealed to. Discussions then start about pedophilia itself, which ultimately redefines right and wrong. Once "victim hood", is established, it's a downhill slope. Just like homosexuality. Every single one of us has grown up in a society that has systemically portrayed sodomites as victims in all forms of public media. People started viewing them as victims instead of anal sex loving people. Now homosexuality and lesbiansism is portrayed as just a normal sexual lifestyle. Pedophilia is already well on this road. Once a society even agrees to start a discourse on unacceptable behaviour, it ends in an establishment of it as normal. Stop using emotions and plays to emotions to determine good and bad. Sex with kids is wrong and no amount of discourse should even be allowed, because that discourse will appeal to your emotions. This leads inevitably to "do what thou wilst". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35165766 United States 03/16/2013 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what I call a sort of "falling away" from God or good. People think that the bad things they do can be classified as a head disorder and it is completely ok!!? NO NO NO I am sorry that is not how it works! But let them live in their delusional world they will be judged and sooner than later the REAL truth will be out! Let them destroy themselves,from the inside out I promise you it will happen! |
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Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/16/2013 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes and no. People are born with their sexual polarity naturally inverted, but this is no different than any other Chakra being inverted. Each Chakra is like a magnet and it can be realigned and set "straight" The reason it tends to get crossed over into Priesthood is because the Medieval West didn't understand the body's energy centers, and when a boy was born fey, they called it "a calling" and those boys were routed towards the priesthood to be asexual and chaste rather than homosexual. Soon it became a sort of underground railroad and support group instead of a chaste, asexual priesthood. That process continues today, but is outdated. Gay Men indoctrinating gay young boys also carries over from the ancient world where it was considered proper for an older gay man to mentor young gay boys. It was something that used to be acceptable and when that rug was pulled out from under them, went underground and into the priesthood. They still operate under the paradigm that it's "Okay" If we studied the spirituality of the East and learned how to incorporate it into the West, none of this bullshit would even be necessary. No arguments over gay rights, no having to force the rest of us to like it or accept it...it would be something that would simply be fixed in youth and everything would be fine. Please do not take my above explaination of what happened as any sort of condonement of Pedophillia. I just happen to understand what happened. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |