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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36203120 U.S. Virgin Islands 03/16/2013 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The solution to this problem is very simple: Quoting: The Comedian If you encounter a pedophile molesting a child, kill the pedophile on the spot. If everyone would do this, pedophilia would be cured within a year. I have one caveat...before you kill them, at least afford them the opportunity to accept Christ as their lord and saviour. Whatever they decide, then kill them. I am curious. Does that mean that the pedophile will get into heaven if he accepts Jesus Christ as his lord and saviour? no because theres only 444000 spaces in heaven with Jesus. Heaven on Earth is for sheep. And not the free thinking ones. heaven is another satanic construct to keep us locked into this reality |
Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/16/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you been at a birth or ever met a brand new person? Because that wouldnt matter, theyve already been learning inside the womb. Not about sex though or that a gay is a gay. They are born with emotions, and may feel more comfortable around a male. But not with a desire to shag every or any hole. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36303448 I have three kids, a daughter, 4 and twin boys, 9 months. I have attended the births, watched them all pop out and cut the cords and the whole deal. The girl has demonstrated an active dislike for her Mother and an attachment to me while still in the womb. 4 years later, all remains the same. The Boys seem to like us both equally. The only thing they know about shag is the carpet, as far as I can tell. I don't know how that applies to anything we're talking about here. If any seem to have "The ghey" anywhere down the road, it won't be due to sexual abuse, since we're not into that, but would be something Chakric and we'd make an honest attempt to correct it through various non-traumatic eastern methods and prayer. If for some reason our efforts failed and "The Ghey" prevailed, so be it. There's never been a better time to be gay. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36294882 United States 03/16/2013 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you a Marijuana smoker? I hope you're not tacitly teaching children that drug use is okay? Quoting: Holy_Diver If drug use is the same as child molestation please tell me your feelings on Novartis (owners of the Ritalin patent)? If I am understanding your logic correctly they must be the biggest pedo ring in the world...or am I misuderstanding metaphor and simile again? No, not the same at all, but the AC who was so upset at what I said seemed to me like a standard issue Marijuana smoker. I would find it ironic that someone so concnerned about the children and the horrors they face would on the other hand live by an example where drug use/abuse is somehow okay. AFter all, substance abuse is the number one way Pedophiles convince themselves to act out in the first place, ultimately starting a whole new cycle of abuse. Ritalin is a drug that attempts to solve a problem biologically that should've been solved first sociologically and then spiritually/psychologically. religion=drug |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36289632 United States 03/16/2013 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AFter all, substance abuse is the number one way Pedophiles convince themselves to act out in the first place, ultimately starting a whole new cycle of abuse. Quoting: Holy_Diver . Thank you so much for your clarification. It really bugs me that there is so little research on the subject. Even the idea that previously abused people become abusers is highly questionable. And possibly giving folks who have been abused unnecessary worry over their abuse potential. Footnoting a bit: [link to ajp.psychiatryonline.org] There has been remarkably little research on comorbid psychiatric disorders in pedophilic sex offenders. In our recent review of the literature, we located only two articles on psychiatric comorbidity in sex offenders (snip) Previous authors have reported higher-than-expected rates of alcoholism and alcohol abuse in child molesters (reviewed in reference 4). In our population of pedophiles, 51% (N=23) met the criteria for a lifetime history of alcohol use disorder, and 44% (N=20) met the criteria for a substance use disorder other than alcohol. Do the abused become abusers? [link to www.webmd.com] ...does show that abused boys who grow up in families where they are exposed to a great deal of violence or neglect are at particular risk. The message here is that sexual victimization alone is not sufficient to suggest a boy is likely to grow up to become a sex offender," study author and psychiatrist Arnon Bentovim tells WebMD. " |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36303448 United Kingdom 03/16/2013 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you been at a birth or ever met a brand new person? Because that wouldnt matter, theyve already been learning inside the womb. Not about sex though or that a gay is a gay. They are born with emotions, and may feel more comfortable around a male. But not with a desire to shag every or any hole. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36303448 I have three kids, a daughter, 4 and twin boys, 9 months. I have attended the births, watched them all pop out and cut the cords and the whole deal. The girl has demonstrated an active dislike for her Mother and an attachment to me while still in the womb. 4 years later, all remains the same. The Boys seem to like us both equally. The only thing they know about shag is the carpet, as far as I can tell. I don't know how that applies to anything we're talking about here. If any seem to have "The ghey" anywhere down the road, it won't be due to sexual abuse, since we're not into that, but would be something Chakric and we'd make an honest attempt to correct it through various non-traumatic eastern methods and prayer. If for some reason our efforts failed and "The Ghey" prevailed, so be it. There's never been a better time to be gay. Sorry I initially thought you thought people were born gay. Ive been at the birth for both of mine, both females, I enjoyed reading that, been feeling down. I somewhat disagree though, I think there was a time in the past where it was better to live full stop |
Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/16/2013 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it was an issue or not for people is not relevant. The Bible is not peoples opinions or issues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1416114 Sure it is. Have you read it? It is the word of God according to Christianity. Quoting: whomeverThat is one aspect of it, yes. It is not the totality of what the Bible is and isn't. So obviously at what age girls get married is not important to God. Quoting: whomeverAnd you've decided it should be, because you think modernistically that Children are super-precious and need to be hand-held to the age of 18 to be unleashed on society. Accually it is less important then buttons in clothing. Quoting: whomeverThe Bible actually tells you everything you need to know: Render unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's Meaning: Follow the Law of your Land whether it is just or unjust. Following the Law is a demonstration of faith or a "Mitzvah" if you will. Being unlawful to King or Country is a sin. Now that you know that, you can cease this useless line of argument. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11787734 United States 03/16/2013 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hahaha The LAST person saying this needs to be a Cardinal. What a fucking Joke. They just make it worse and worse for themselves. Honestly, a Cardinal "defending" peadophilia? What does he honestly think people are going to do? NOT make fun of it? The best thing for them to do at this point is call all the offender criminals and try to separate themselves from it as far as possible but instead they are going to try to cover each others asses as always. Its like the police cheif speaking on behalf of the cop who beats the fuck out of a defenseless citizens, trying to excuse the incident in some fucked up irrational way. |
Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/16/2013 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am curious. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1416114 Does that mean that the pedophile will get into heaven if he accepts Jesus Christ as his lord and saviour? Anyone: Hitler, Marquis De Sade, Countess Bathory, Aliester Crowley even Barrack Obama...yes, even him...will be afforded an opportunity, after death, to coninue on the path towards redemption if they accept Christ in this lifetme, even at the last minute. Anything less would be less than divine. How could it be otherwise? :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36289632 United States 03/16/2013 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.webmd.com] One-third of the adult abusers had been cruel to animals as children, compared with just 5% of the child abuse victims who did not grow up to commit sexual crimes. But abusers and nonabusers experienced similar levels of physical abuse as children, and there were few significant differences in the severity or characteristics of the sexual abuse they suffered. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36019869 United Kingdom 03/16/2013 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all pedos and queers and lesbo's are the same to be , all eqauly as wicked Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36019869 i would build a wicker man weekly and load them with queers and pedos just my 2 penneth .... Closet Criminal? Do you break rules on MMO's? would you like to explain that dick , all fags and lesbos and peos are wicked , simple as that |
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THE WORDSMITH User ID: 28862374 United States 03/16/2013 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Quoting: SheldonReturns The Catholic Archbishop of Durban, Wilfrid Fox Napier, has described paedophilia as a psychological "illness, not a criminal condition". The South African cardinal told the BBC that people who were themselves abused as children and then abused others needed to be examined by doctors. He was one of 115 cardinals who took part in the conclave at the Vatican to elect Pope Francis earlier this week. He said he knew at least two priests, who became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children. I will clue The Catholic Archbishop of Durban in on something... It is an Illness... but when that illness causes action... then that action is criminal. Word Magic does not work on me... |
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Kirk User ID: 25384388 United States 03/16/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny The people who are unable to control themselves should be removed from society. If its not a criminal condition then it is a disease which requires isolation. This guy: [link to www.kgw.com] The state sex offender registry lists Brown as a predatory sex offender known to target children ages 2 to 8. He was on parole for abusing children when the attack in Wendy's occurred. Court records showed in the early 1990s, Brown was charged with 43 counts, including attempted murder and rape, in connection with a series of sexual assaults against children in Douglas County. Prosecutors said he exposed several children to HIV through sexual contact but those charges were dropped in the plea deal. He even looks twisted. He needs to have an "accident" Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36250967 Brazil 03/16/2013 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in their perspective, kids are not people. also, in their perspective, what god states as sin, must be interpreted as "medical condition". for these people, its everything opposite. they have no real moral standards. they follow their own rules and traditions that predates christianity or judaism. they follow satan |
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Holy_Diver User ID: 20712268 United States 03/16/2013 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the printed logic in this, then, people who grew up in abusive homes, beaten, neglected, and visit the same are not commiting criminal acts? Quoting: Mickeyblue 9806228 Last Edited by Last_In_Line on 03/16/2013 10:21 AM :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36199740 United States 03/16/2013 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Quoting: SheldonReturns The Catholic Archbishop of Durban, Wilfrid Fox Napier, has described paedophilia as a psychological "illness, not a criminal condition". The South African cardinal told the BBC that people who were themselves abused as children and then abused others needed to be examined by doctors. He was one of 115 cardinals who took part in the conclave at the Vatican to elect Pope Francis earlier this week. He said he knew at least two priests, who became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children. Who is he to judge? What does their courts say is the truth on this? Take it to court. THEN get philosophical to the juries who get to decide community opinion and culture. |
MuslimAmerican User ID: 26542172 United States 03/16/2013 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Quoting: SheldonReturns The Catholic Archbishop of Durban, Wilfrid Fox Napier, has described paedophilia as a psychological "illness, not a criminal condition". The South African cardinal told the BBC that people who were themselves abused as children and then abused others needed to be examined by doctors. He was one of 115 cardinals who took part in the conclave at the Vatican to elect Pope Francis earlier this week. He said he knew at least two priests, who became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children. The Catholic hierarchy will stop at nothing to defend homosexuality and molestation. They've harbored so many monsters, I don't see how they still have such influence when everyone knows its a front and a fraud. Feed the hungry, visit the sick, free a captive if he be unjustly confined(kidnapped/enslaved by someone). Assist any person oppressed, whether they're of the Muslim or non-Muslim. - Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1416114 Sweden 03/16/2013 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it was an issue or not for people is not relevant. The Bible is not peoples opinions or issues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1416114 Sure it is. Have you read it? It is the word of God according to Christianity. Quoting: whomeverThat is one aspect of it, yes. It is not the totality of what the Bible is and isn't. So obviously at what age girls get married is not important to God. Quoting: whomeverAnd you've decided it should be, because you think modernistically that Children are super-precious and need to be hand-held to the age of 18 to be unleashed on society. Accually it is less important then buttons in clothing. Quoting: whomeverThe Bible actually tells you everything you need to know: Render unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's Meaning: Follow the Law of your Land whether it is just or unjust. Following the Law is a demonstration of faith or a "Mitzvah" if you will. Being unlawful to King or Country is a sin. Now that you know that, you can cease this useless line of argument. What I ment with my first statement was the Bible is not for showing the will of man its for showing humans the will of God. Please answer these questions: Are you telling me that you are Ok with child marriage? Was it a sin for Germans not to obey Hitler? |
eyestoseeearstohear User ID: 7682049 United States 03/16/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Catholic system is just that, a man made system with HUGE demonic overtones i.e. the Jesuit Order and the new “Black Pope”. Expecting a rational observation from an entity that is derived from demons is insane. They are what they are and you can’t expect a logical explanation. Remember there are around a billion souls that are Catholic and are deceived along with the other organized religion structures in the protestant that are to a lesser degree demonic. Pedophilia is an ultimate demonic possession. Study Hebraic Roots |
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MHz User ID: 34243878 Canada 03/16/2013 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Quoting: SheldonReturns The Catholic Archbishop of Durban, Wilfrid Fox Napier, has described paedophilia as a psychological "illness, not a criminal condition". The South African cardinal told the BBC that people who were themselves abused as children and then abused others needed to be examined by doctors. He was one of 115 cardinals who took part in the conclave at the Vatican to elect Pope Francis earlier this week. He said he knew at least two priests, who became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children. Did he mention that it was RCC Priests who did the abusing? Why not claim they are creating employment for some doctors. Hang a few guilty Priests and see how fast the practice stops. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29801624 United States 03/16/2013 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's a lot like the whole 'being born gay' thing...which I don't agree with. I think they are both 'learned' behaviours. In any case, no matter what 'inclination' a person has, they choose to act upon it or not. Actions are choices. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny Molesting a child is a crime and should be punished severely. Homosexuality is not a 'learned' behaviour, and therefore, not a choice. |
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jimd User ID: 34699774 Malawi 03/16/2013 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Quoting: SheldonReturns The Catholic Archbishop of Durban, Wilfrid Fox Napier, has described paedophilia as a psychological "illness, not a criminal condition". The South African cardinal told the BBC that people who were themselves abused as children and then abused others needed to be examined by doctors. He was one of 115 cardinals who took part in the conclave at the Vatican to elect Pope Francis earlier this week. He said he knew at least two priests, who became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children. The Catholic hierarchy will stop at nothing to defend homosexuality and molestation. They've harbored so many monsters, I don't see how they still have such influence when everyone knows its a front and a fraud. They might harbour some pedo's is quite correct ..... u WORSHIP a murderous, thieving pedo' |