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Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES

 
Anonymous Coward
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03/17/2013 12:36 PM
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this is really scary
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03/17/2013 12:59 PM
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Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
Many people in this thread do not understand the basics.

Things as they stand are like this.

1. No money or political willingness to pay for another Cyprus bailout in full, without concessions (esp. because this would set a dangerous precedent to Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland & the motherload of all, Spain and France).
 Quoting: Pathaka


Τhat is exactly the problem. ESM and EFSF don;t have the money to rescue Cyprus. Originally discussion where made for a bailout package of 18 Bn Euros. With this desicion the amount drops to 10 Bn Euros.
Now what does thsi say about Eurozone?? What if Italy needs help? What about Spain if she also asks for additional help?? The debt of Greece is a grain of rice compared to them.


3. If this happens, there is no other possibility but to break away from euro, go to new-Cyprus-pound and devalue. This devalue would be in the order or 40% to 50% AND WOULD TAKE IN EFFECT IMMEDIATELY TO ALL SAVINGS.
 Quoting: Pathaka


Wrong!! Cyprus with its enormous amount of natural gas reserves can do a lot of things. If the decide to exit Eurozone then EU loses one great energy source and the enslavement in the energy sector to Russia continues. This will cost more to EU than Cyprus. In such a decision Cuprus gets bailed out from Russia the very next morning. The profits are enormous for them.

Politicians took the short fall and tried to postpone the inevitable. This solves nothing though and does set an interesting game-theoretical dilemma for the savers of Portugal, Ireland, Spain and perhaps in due time for savers of Italy and France, the banking system of the latter, being totally insolvent as I type this.

So, it's more kicking the can down the road.

10% is still child's play.

Ask any an Argentinian old enough to remember :)
 Quoting: Pathaka


Politicians in Cyprus made a huge mistake. This forced haircaut without warning will destroy the credability to the Cyprus Banking System and a lot of investors and companies are going to flee and never come back. If this decision gets aproved by the PM's then Cyprus will lose all its allies and all the agreements that Cyprus has made up until know will be lost.
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03/17/2013 01:16 PM
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Wrong!! Cyprus with its enormous amount of natural gas reserves can do a lot of things.
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Explain! What are these "lot of things"?
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03/17/2013 01:28 PM
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"The big problem, however, is that it’s not just large foreign deposits that are taking a haircut; the haircut on small domestic deposits is a bit smaller, but still substantial. It’s as if the Europeans are holding up a neon sign, written in Greek and Italian, saying “time to stage a run on your banks!”

Tomorrow and the days immediately following should be very interesting."

-Paul Krugman (Nobel Prize-winning economist)

[link to krugman.blogs.nytimes.com]
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03/17/2013 01:51 PM
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Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
OH NO!!! If they take 6.75% of MY money out of the bank, I'll stand to lose about $.06!
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03/17/2013 02:02 PM
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this is really scary
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15751650


but its doom?

it has to happen at some point. just get it over with already and let's start working on a real solution
Anonymous Coward
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03/17/2013 04:41 PM
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Even though these nations are responsible for p***y footing around and not getting their act together, still the people don't deserve this and this is just.... bonkers and madness that the EU has sunk this low!!! redface
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23227784


The scariest thing is the precedent this has set. Does anyone seriously believe that, now they have done this to Cyprus, they will not do it each and every time more intervention is needed in other countries? And that each time the percentages stolen will increase?

Enough is enough; it is time for civil war. The governments across Europe have been shown to be crooks and no longer hold any validity or mandate. All Europeans need to arm themselves, take to the streets, and depose the governments of all parties.

I just pray to god that the majority of Europe's police and armed forces see the light and side with the people. There IS going to be a bloodbath; lets just hope it is quick and not as bad as it may be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23992770


The funny thing is when I was screaming doom at Greeks to get their act together (pay taxes, stop rioting, stop bit**ing) & hoping that they will somehow vote in or make change in their country (both the large and small Greek nations) many Greeks accused me of being Turkish or Muslim but I suppose the silver lining here is that they can finally "see" what the rest of us see in that their government are complete criminal scum who have been sucking up willingly to the Eurocats for so long and this plan is nothing but plain highway robbery designed only to bring misery and hardship.

Instead of a united Europe working together to solve problems we now face a project wide meltdown and breakup with future generations having nothing but intolerance and blind nationalism to look forward to :(
Anonymous Coward
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03/17/2013 05:50 PM
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Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
Wrong!! Cyprus with its enormous amount of natural gas reserves can do a lot of things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36185381


Explain! What are these "lot of things"?
 Quoting: zvezda 1


Gazprom already handed over a proposal to the goverment of Cyprus that they are willing to buy 1-2 banks in exchange for more royalties in the Natural Gas Reserves.

Read Here:
[link to www.newsit.gr]
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03/17/2013 09:43 PM
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bump
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03/19/2013 12:53 PM
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It won't happen, Mercury retrograde. Presumes forward motion on Monday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11171736


See?
Anonymous Coward
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03/19/2013 01:00 PM
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It won't happen, Mercury retrograde. Presumes forward motion on Monday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11171736


See?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11171736


Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they were just floating the idea, see what response it got. Seen any queues at your local ATM?
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03/22/2013 02:56 PM
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Most do not understand yet, you all must work together anonymously in order to solve this predicament that has been deliberately designed.
Massachusetts Justice Fighter

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10/23/2014 03:25 AM
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Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
THE FEDERAL COURT OF USA REJECTED GREEK CYPRIOTS' REQUESTS TO RETURN NORTHERN CYPRUS OR TAKING COMPENSATION (09.10.2014):

The news of the decision of the Court: (13.10.2014): [link to www.courthousenews.com]

The website of the case of the Court: [link to dockets.justia.com]

The decision of the Court.....: [link to docs.justia.com]
From the Court decision:
1. "..Greek Cypriots CANNOT CLAIM that the government in control of Northern Cyprus gave their homes to Turkish Cypriots....

2. Although the United States does not recognize it as a state, the TRNC purportedly operates as a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC with a president, prime minister, legislature and judiciary...

3. TRNC is NOT VULNERABLE to a lawsuit in Washington"

NOTE: Previously, The European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) rejected Greek Cypriots' request to return Northern Cyprus.
European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) (27.05.2010):
“The houses which the Greek Cypriots left in North Cyprus are not their homes any more because they have lived almost for all their lives in another place and they have no concrete and persisting links with the houses they claimed. Therefore Greek Cypriots have no right to return to the North.”
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10/23/2014 09:38 AM
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THE FEDERAL COURT OF USA REJECTED GREEK CYPRIOTS' REQUESTS TO RETURN NORTHERN CYPRUS OR TAKING COMPENSATION (09.10.2014):

The news of the decision of the Court: (13.10.2014): [link to www.courthousenews.com]

The website of the case of the Court: [link to dockets.justia.com]

The decision of the Court.....: [link to docs.justia.com]
From the Court decision:
1. "..Greek Cypriots CANNOT CLAIM that the government in control of Northern Cyprus gave their homes to Turkish Cypriots....

2. Although the United States does not recognize it as a state, the TRNC purportedly operates as a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC with a president, prime minister, legislature and judiciary...

3. TRNC is NOT VULNERABLE to a lawsuit in Washington"

NOTE: Previously, The European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) rejected Greek Cypriots' request to return Northern Cyprus.
European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) (27.05.2010):
“The houses which the Greek Cypriots left in North Cyprus are not their homes any more because they have lived almost for all their lives in another place and they have no concrete and persisting links with the houses they claimed. Therefore Greek Cypriots have no right to return to the North.”
 Quoting: Massachusetts Justice Fighter


Way to dig this up. I guess as long a the Russian Moffia got to remove their money before it all went down, no foul right. I mean none of the bankers have to worry about the Greek Cypriots as much as the Russians they almost screwed.
Viktor Bychenok
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11/17/2014 06:11 PM
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Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
Should I start talking smack now or would you advise me to hold it until 25th of November?
Viktor Bychenok
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11/20/2014 04:06 PM
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I wonder if locals still use the lawn mower during dark ours? Those hidden cables are kinda hard to see... I know I should have waited until 25th of November but having so much stuff on my hands I need to unload to make a deadline. hf
Anonymous Coward
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11/20/2014 04:23 PM
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Re: Breaking: CHAOS IN CYPRUS; "Thousands" are withdrawing their money; ALERT IN THE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
great. once again we see banks and governments colluding
to make theft of your property legal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19879137


They already have

with the Social Security Account. They borrowed Three Trillion, then passed a law to make it legal to not pay it back, by saying the account was too big to handle, and gussied up Formosa(Taiwan).
Viktor Bychenok
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11/21/2014 11:59 AM
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And our next lesson is first strike scenario. What is the best response policy considering the result we have.?





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