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BREAKING!! Judge rules secret FBI national security letters to banks, phone companies and other businesses demanding custome unconstitutional!!!!

 
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SAN FRANCISCO – A federal judge has struck down a set of laws allowing the FBI to issue so-called national security letters to banks, phone companies and other businesses demanding customer information.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston said the laws violate the First Amendment and the separation of powers principles and ordered the government to stop issuing the secretive letters or enforcing their gag orders, The Wall Street Journal reported.

The FBI almost always bars recipients of the letters from disclosing to anyone — including customers — that they have even received the demands, Illston said in the ruling released Friday.

The government has failed to show that the letters and the blanket non-disclosure policy "serve the compelling need of national security," and the gag order creates "too large a danger that speech is being unnecessarily restricted," the San Francisco-based Illston wrote.

A Department of Justice spokesman told the Journal the department was "reviewing the order."

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]

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Great news for the people... until the appeals court gets hold of it. Let's just hope someone has some sense there.
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I'll raise you a bump. People need to see this. Thanks OP for posting.
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Why is this not pinned? This is very important.
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The government has 90 days to appeal the decision to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Now, if the 9th Circuit rules that the NSLs are unconstitutional, its a safe bet to say that the U.S. Supreme Court will deem them to be constitutional --- I would actually be surprised if SCOTUS did not reverse the 9th's ruling, as they have a history of reversing the 9th's rulings. Is it fucked up? Yeah, but at this point we should not be surprised. Up is down, left is right, and two plus two is five.
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bumpbumpbump Maybe we do have a FEW good people we can rely on!!hiding
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Re: BREAKING!! Judge rules secret FBI national security letters to banks, phone companies and other businesses demanding custome unconstitutional!!!!
SAN FRANCISCO – A federal judge has struck down a set of laws allowing the FBI to issue so-called national security letters to banks, phone companies and other businesses demanding customer information.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston said the laws violate the First Amendment and the separation of powers principles and ordered the government to stop issuing the secretive letters or enforcing their gag orders, The Wall Street Journal reported.

The FBI almost always bars recipients of the letters from disclosing to anyone — including customers — that they have even received the demands, Illston said in the ruling released Friday.

The government has failed to show that the letters and the blanket non-disclosure policy "serve the compelling need of national security," and the gag order creates "too large a danger that speech is being unnecessarily restricted," the San Francisco-based Illston wrote.

A Department of Justice spokesman told the Journal the department was "reviewing the order."

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
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When MSM News Media says (under arm of Uncle Sam) its going right, its coming from left..

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If you can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two imposters just the same...you'll be a man, my son.
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Ok but you could have made a real title instead of a full paragraph!
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Pin it!

Great news for the people... until the appeals court gets hold of it. Let's just hope someone has some sense there.
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It's a bit late for this. They have all they need.
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Great News...These intelligence (rolls eyes) and so-called "Law Enforcement" agencies need to be massively reigned in and so does the "ADL" and "SPLiarC" terrorist organizations!

Bump and 5***** for a great find!

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Oh and GREENERY as well!
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Very nice. Now if we could only get the NSA to stop collecting data on every aspect of our lives without ever raising an eyebrow or showing up on any legal radar.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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And I can guarantee they will continue to do it,get caught,and no one will get in trouble nor care because American Idol is on
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Holy shit!

We found 1 honest judge!

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Ninth Circuit Court. Figure the odds of that. One of the most liberal courts in the Nation.
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Holy shit!

We found 1 honest judge!

5a
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LOL
will this judge make them stop harassing people that HAVE LEGIT FUNDS in bank accts
and sometimes find it necessary to WITHDRAW sums of 5Gs or more ?

they say it IS TO REPORT suspicious activity and as usual WHAT DEFINES THEIR MEANING of suspicious-



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My phone is tapped, I know this for sure cause they like to cut the line when I speak to people on certain subjects.

Previously I had the phone company out to check the lines and they say nothin there.

Yet my phone continualy pops, clicks, buzzes, chirps, line goes dead silent or hangs up in the middle of conversation.

So I decide to have the phone shut of. I call the CS and tell them to shut it and off and she goes, we can't and we won't. What, I just said for you to shut my phone off. We can't and we won't.

I now say I won't pay the phone bill and to shut the fucking phone off. Well if you come in and sign some papers and give us your password we can work this out. Listen I said shut the fucking phone off, i don't need a password or have to come in.

No, were not going to do that and now I am really pissed and say SHUT THE FUCKING PHONE OFF.

Its still on weeks later.
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Holy shit!

We found 1 honest judge!

5a
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No worries. When it gets to the SCOTUS, this problem will be "fixed".

Did you know that only 33% of the judges on the Supreme Court are Jewish?

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