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I bet Obama never thought he would see a video like this one. | |
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Rising Son  User ID: 35530451 United States03/16/2013 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent find, OP!!! A thousand times AMEN! "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23068722 United States03/16/2013 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are we supposed to be surprised that there are black people who want to keep their guns? I'm not. I wonder why the TWO THOUSAND guns EXEMPTED from this legislation are not enough for you? Your reply will be the usual boring "That's not the point". Yes it is the point, stop exagerating. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26285793 pos troll. go campaing so a man can be married when he f*** another man in the ars |
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| ladyannie2009 User ID: 35568680 United States03/16/2013 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  ....articulate man "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36312138 United States03/16/2013 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amazing. Very happy not all black Americans believe that Obama is god just because he is the same color as them. Good for these people for standing up along the people that understand the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10910044 there is white trash too. it is unfortunate the only blacks we hear anything about are the trashy ones. it isn't the color of the skin it is a persons integrity. this is America and if we all follow our Constitution and make it what runs the country and morals we will be equal to rise above or fail it is up to us. religion or rather faith is personal.protecting our inalienable rights is for all and so is freedom |
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| ArchaicSEAL User ID: 15583309 United States03/16/2013 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see black people here. I see REAL human beings and true Americans. There is no such thing as skin color. There is only hatred and a focus of said hatred. When we stop seeing skin color or creed and see each other as human beings, then there will be hope for humanity as a sentient species. Until then... everyday is a day closer to extinction. |
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| Hawgzilla User ID: 32627219 United States03/16/2013 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are we supposed to be surprised that there are black people who want to keep their guns? I'm not. I wonder why the TWO THOUSAND guns EXEMPTED from this legislation are not enough for you? Your reply will be the usual boring "That's not the point". Yes it is the point, stop exagerating. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26285793 You didn't watch the video. The answer to your second question is given within the first minute of the video. It's about people control and the constitution. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand? In addition, the other amendments don't mean shit without the second. Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now. |
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| BobTheDog User ID: 4536906 United States03/16/2013 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  for importance“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” Frank Zappa “The lies the government and media tell are amplifications of the lies we tell ourselves. To stop being conned, stop conning yourself.” — James Wolcott |
| Kirk (OP) User ID: 25384388 United States03/16/2013 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are we supposed to be surprised that there are black people who want to keep their guns? I'm not. I wonder why the TWO THOUSAND guns EXEMPTED from this legislation are not enough for you? Your reply will be the usual boring "That's not the point". Yes it is the point, stop exagerating. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26285793 This clip from a Man For All Seasons address your "position" rather forcefully. right on Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36312138 United States03/16/2013 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see black people here. I see REAL human beings and true Americans. Quoting: ArchaicSEAL 15583309 There is no such thing as skin color. There is only hatred and a focus of said hatred. When we stop seeing skin color or creed and see each other as human beings, then there will be hope for humanity as a sentient species. Until then... everyday is a day closer to extinction. whats wrong with recognizing our differences and still being sentient beings? i disagree i see it the other way around. then all roses should be red |
| 0311INFANTRYSIR User ID: 969484 United States03/16/2013 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are we supposed to be surprised that there are black people who want to keep their guns? I'm not. I wonder why the TWO THOUSAND guns EXEMPTED from this legislation are not enough for you? Your reply will be the usual boring "That's not the point". Yes it is the point, stop exagerating. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26285793 Actually, the point, the "real point" is that the government, by order of the CONSTITUTION, does not have the RIGHT to limit any guns at all. In all honesty, yes, Mrs. Feinstein, we should have BAZOOKA's. Why, because our Government has them and we need to have a way to throw off any form of Government that we see as unfit to be in charge of this country, such as the current administration. And NO the Second Amendment does not protect guns for hunting. The second amendment is all about being able to stop the tyrannical governments that inevitably come about after years of being in power and becoming more and more corrupt. Of course, it is the greed of men/women that makes this a neccessity, but why it is needed is not the point either. It is the fact that it is needed that matters. Anyone who thinks that you can legislate away violence or the people whom committ violent acts are completely insane or simply completely out-of-touch with reality. People will always be evil and committ evil acts, that is why we have law enforcement and courts etc. Next, if we are truly concerned with saving lives and not simply with the abuse of power, we should ban alcohol again, since most accidents and violence are alcohol/drug induced. Then, we should completely BAN cars and smoking as well as fast food. These, not guns, are the largest killers of ANY AGE GROUP in America. So, taking our gun rights is clearly not to save lives, it is simply a power play to take away our ability to rebel against an out of control Government, such as the one we have right now. I have had enough of hearing about how banning guns will save lives, that is such a blatant crock of shit it is not even funny. And anyone who thinks different is in-fucking-sane. And I do not say that because it is my opinion, I say that because it is a fucking fact, actually read the statistics, not the shit the Media shoves down your throat, those are lies. Get your information directly from the sources like the medical association, the FBI Uniform Crime Report etc. etc. etc.. People in this country have gotten so used to living free without the cost of being free that they no longer understand that being free is something that only American's have. And it came at a huge cost. So much blood has spilled over the cause of freedom, but, lately, no one has had to fight for their freedom and they have lost sight of the fact that freedom is not free. People say things like "support the troops" and bullshit like that, but, they have never been a "troop". Then, when these true patriots get home, people support taking away their gun rights because they have ptsd or anxiety. Well, what the fuck do you expect when you see a child blown to pieces or watch someones head explode and their brain flop out on the ground before their body can even get there. War is hell. Freedom is not free. And people who have never picked up a fucking gun should not be able to take away anything from anyone. Go fight a war Ms. Feinstein, then lets see how you feel about the constitution. Fuck, we live in such a fucked up time. What do you think a single shot 22 can do against a drone? Against a helicopter with an electronic gatlin gun? Not a shitting thing. It is like sticking your finger up a bears ass and hoping that he doesn't rip you up and shit you out. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" ~ Benjamin Franklin. |
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| Aunt Arky User ID: 35645867 United States03/16/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Um, you forgot a "g". Use mine if you like. I'll bet you ain't got the balls to insert this other "g" into your statement and re post it on GLP. I thought not. Chicken shit whitey trailer trash. the dudes name is spelled NIGER pronounced NYJER, no doubt. or NEEJERE Yes, it's pronounced like NI-jer, like the river, with a long "i." Formerly faint |
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| Eyes Wide Open User ID: 35907315 United States03/16/2013 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romans Chapter 13 By Chuck Baldwin August 10, 2007 This column is archived at [link to www.chuckbaldwinlive.com] It seems that every time someone such as myself attempts to encourage our Christian brothers and sisters to resist an unconstitutional or otherwise reprehensible government policy, we hear the retort, "What about Romans Chapter 13? We Christians must submit to government. Any government. Read your Bible, and leave me alone." Or words to that effect. No doubt, some who use this argument are sincere. They are only repeating what they have heard their pastor and other religious leaders say. On the other hand, let's be honest enough to admit that some who use this argument are just plain lazy, apathetic, and indifferent. And Romans 13 is their escape from responsibility. I suspect this is the much larger group, by the way. Nevertheless, for the benefit of those who are sincere (but obviously misinformed), let's briefly examine Romans Chapter 13. I quote Romans Chapter 13, verses 1 through 7, from the Authorized King James text: "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor." Do our Christian friends who use these verses to teach that we should not oppose President Bush or any other political leader really believe that civil magistrates have unlimited authority to do anything they want without opposition? I doubt whether they truly believe that. For example, what if our President decided to resurrect the old monarchal custom of Jus Primae Noctis (Law of First Night)? That was the old medieval custom when the king claimed the right to sleep with a subject's bride on the first night of their marriage. Would our sincere Christian brethren sheepishly say, "Romans Chapter 13 says we must submit to the government"? I think not. And would any of us respect any man who would submit to such a law? So, there are limits to authority. A father has authority in his home, but does this give him power to abuse his wife and children? Of course not. An employer has authority on the job, but does this give him power to control the private lives of his employees? No. A pastor has overseer authority in the church, but does this give him power to tell employers in his church how to run their businesses? Of course not. All human authority is limited in nature. No man has unlimited authority over the lives of other men. (Lordship and Sovereignty is the exclusive domain of Jesus Christ.) By the same token, a civil magistrate has authority in civil matters, but his authority is limited and defined. Observe that Romans Chapter 13 clearly limits the authority of civil government by strictly defining its purpose: "For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil . . . For he is the minister of God to thee for good . . . for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." Notice that civil government must not be a "terror to good works." It has no power or authority to terrorize good works or good people. God never gave it that authority. And any government that oversteps that divine boundary has no divine authority or protection. Civil government is a "minister of God to thee for good." It is a not a minister of God for evil. Civil magistrates have a divine duty to "execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." They have no authority to execute wrath upon him that doeth good. None. Zilch. Zero. And anyone who says they do is lying. So, even in the midst of telling Christians to submit to civil authority, Romans Chapter 13 limits the power and reach of civil authority. Did Moses violate God's principle of submission to authority when he killed the Egyptian taskmaster in defense of his fellow Hebrew? Did Elijah violate God's principle of submission to authority when he openly challenged Ahab and Jezebel? Did David violate God's principle of submission to authority when he refused to surrender to Saul's troops? Did Daniel violate God's principle of submission to authority when he disobeyed the king's law to not pray audibly to God? Did the three Hebrew children violate God's principle of submission to authority when they refused to bow to the image of the state? Did John the Baptist violate God's principle of submission to authority when he publicly scolded King Herod for his infidelity? Did Simon Peter and the other Apostles violate God's principle of submission to authority when they refused to stop preaching on the streets of Jerusalem? Did Paul violate God's principle of submission to authority when he refused to obey those authorities who demanded that he abandon his missionary work? In fact, Paul spent almost as much time in jail as he did out of jail. Remember that every apostle of Christ (except John) was killed by hostile civil authorities opposed to their endeavors. Christians throughout church history were imprisoned, tortured, or killed by civil authorities of all stripes for refusing to submit to their various laws and prohibitions. Did all of these Christian martyrs violate God's principle of submission to authority? So, even the great prophets, apostles, and writers of the Bible (including the writer of Romans Chapter 13) understood that human authority--even civil authority--is limited. Plus, Paul makes it clear that our submission to civil authority must be predicated on more than fear of governmental retaliation. Notice, he said, "Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake." Meaning, our obedience to civil authority is more than just "because they said so." It is also a matter of conscience. This means we must think and reason for ourselves regarding the justness and rightness of our government's laws. Obedience is not automatic or robotic. It is a result of both rational deliberation and moral approbation. Therefore, there are times when civil authority may need to be resisted. Either governmental abuse of power or the violation of conscience (or both) could precipitate civil disobedience. Of course, how and when we decide to resist civil authority is an entirely separate issue. And I will reserve that discussion for another time. Beyond that, we in the United States of America do not live under a monarchy. We have no king. There is no single governing official in this country. America's "supreme Law" does not rest with any man or any group of men. America's "supreme Law" does not rest with the President, the Congress, or even the Supreme Court. In America, the U.S. Constitution is the "supreme Law of the Land." Under our laws, every governing official publicly promises to submit to the Constitution of the United States. Do readers understand the significance of this distinction? I hope so. This means that in America the "higher powers" are not the men who occupy elected office, they are the tenets and principles set forth in the U.S. Constitution. Under our laws and form of government, it is the duty of every citizen, including our elected officials, to obey the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, this is how Romans Chapter 13 reads to Americans: "Let every soul be subject unto the [U.S. Constitution.] For there is no [Constitution] but of God: the [Constitution] that be [is] ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the [Constitution], resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For [the Constitution is] not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the [Constitution]? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For [the Constitution] is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for [the Constitution] beareth not the sword in vain: for [the Constitution] is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For this cause pay ye tribute also: for [the Constitution is] God's minister, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor." Dear Christian friend, the above is exactly the proper understanding of our responsibility to civil authority in these United States, as per the teaching of Romans Chapter 13. Furthermore, Christians, above all people, should desire that their elected representatives submit to the Constitution, because it is constitutional government that has done more to protect Christian liberty than any governing document ever devised by man. As I have noted before in this column (See: [link to www.chuckbaldwinlive.com] ), Biblical principles form the foundation of all three of America's founding documents: The Declaration of Independence, The U.S. Constitution, and The Bill of Rights. As a result, Christians in America (for the most part) have not had to face the painful decision to "obey God rather than men" and defy their civil authorities. The problem in America today is that we have allowed our political leaders to violate their oaths of office and to ignore, and blatantly disobey, the "supreme Law of the Land," the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, if we truly believe Romans Chapter 13, we will insist and demand that our civil magistrates submit to the U.S. Constitution. Now, how many of us Christians are going to truly obey Romans Chapter 13? (c) Chuck Baldwin NOTE TO THE READER: This email editorial cannot be considered Spam as long as the sender includes contact information and a method of removal. To subscribe, click on this link and follow the instructions: [link to www.chuckbaldwinlive.com] To unsubscribe, click on this link and follow the instructions: [link to www.chuckbaldwinlive.com] Chuck Baldwin's commentaries are copyrighted and may be republished, reposted, or emailed providing the person or organization doing so does not charge for subscriptions or advertising and that the column is copied intact and that full credit is given and that Chuck's web site address is included. 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