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Bill Gates says capitalism is a fucking shit

 
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So many budding anarchists in this thread, and they don't even realize it. Just stop calling yourselves Libertarians and embrace the truth.

Makes me warm & fuzzy inside! This is what happens before the revolutions come :) :)

Little Emma Goldman's, and they don't even realize it!

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Well not really because I do believe in borders and nations so I would need some form of state. But certainly nothing like the kind we have today.
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If you were in charge of the world in a capitalist paradigm

How do you ensure important issues that affect wide numbers of people without resources are focused upon over trivial ones that affect the small numbers of people who do have resources.
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You don't, no one should control peoples lives, let communities find a way to be self organized according to their idiosyncrasies. No one is born with a guarantee to be provided with their needs. When you allow freedom to prevail you actually create the right environment for prosperity to be cultivated, but you need to have patience to let it come to fruition. In America people panicked because not everything was as perfect as they expected and exchanged capitalism for government regulated economies. Had they waited a bit longer prosperity would have come to everyone, but now instead they have become hopelessly indebted to provide everyone with fake money. The entire world is adopting this lunacy, just because they couldn't wait until productivity created enough prosperity for everyone. You're not gonna get prosperity and productivity merely by having good intentions. These actually pave the road to hell.
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That's the thing, communities will NOT find a way to organise coordinated efforts until it's an issue that affects them. The rich do not care about the poor, until the poor are on their doorstep with fires and pitchforks, which could have been all prevented with some sharing earlier on.

Though I guess that shortsightedness has mostly to do with the mindset of the average person today.

Some of the poor are only poor due to circumstance, but with enough water, could sprout into a very strong tree, but they won't sprout at all if the water is withheld.

But I don't think full blown socialism, nobody profits, 'everyone is equal' bullshit works. I think excessive welfare hurts everyone and makes everyone weaker. But it does seem that a small degree of sharing/charity does need to operate as 'maintenance', it keeps the system lubricated and working optimally. And yes, I know that opens the door for government to decide what is most important and that ends up tyrannical in due time.

It seems to be an issue of balance, not getting locked into capitalism or socialism
I just wonder what is the best way to do this.
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Charity is only charity when people voluntarily offer it, period.
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Well then, there's nothing to stop the rich from stealing from the poor when they have the resources to do so and no heart.

Guess the poor just need to gain control of new resources to turn the tide. Like expecting capsized sailors to build their own lifeboat in the middle of the ocean meanwhile the lucky one paddles away in the only lifeboat

If the number of sailors in the water was greater than the capacity of the lifeboat, then it makes sense to be selfish otherwise you will all perish when the lifeboat sinks, but otherwise it's just cruel.
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You don't, no one should control peoples lives, let communities find a way to be self organized according to their idiosyncrasies. No one is born with a guarantee to be provided with their needs. When you allow freedom to prevail you actually create the right environment for prosperity to be cultivated, but you need to have patience to let it come to fruition. In America people panicked because not everything was as perfect as they expected and exchanged capitalism for government regulated economies. Had they waited a bit longer prosperity would have come to everyone, but now instead they have become hopelessly indebted to provide everyone with fake money. The entire world is adopting this lunacy, just because they couldn't wait until productivity created enough prosperity for everyone. You're not gonna get prosperity and productivity merely by having good intentions. These actually pave the road to hell.
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That's the thing, communities will NOT find a way to organise coordinated efforts until it's an issue that affects them. The rich do not care about the poor, until the poor are on their doorstep with fires and pitchforks, which could have been all prevented with some sharing earlier on.

Though I guess that shortsightedness has mostly to do with the mindset of the average person today.

Some of the poor are only poor due to circumstance, but with enough water, could sprout into a very strong tree, but they won't sprout at all if the water is withheld.

But I don't think full blown socialism, nobody profits, 'everyone is equal' bullshit works. I think excessive welfare hurts everyone and makes everyone weaker. But it does seem that a small degree of sharing/charity does need to operate as 'maintenance', it keeps the system lubricated and working optimally. And yes, I know that opens the door for government to decide what is most important and that ends up tyrannical in due time.

It seems to be an issue of balance, not getting locked into capitalism or socialism
I just wonder what is the best way to do this.
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Charity is only charity when people voluntarily offer it, period.
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Well then, there's nothing to stop the rich from stealing from the poor when they have the resources to do so and no heart.

Guess the poor just need to gain control of new resources to turn the tide. Like expecting capsized sailors to build their own lifeboat in the middle of the ocean meanwhile the lucky one paddles away in the only lifeboat

If the number of sailors in the water was greater than the capacity of the lifeboat, then it makes sense to be selfish otherwise you will all perish when the lifeboat sinks, but otherwise it's just cruel.
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Well unfortunately there's nothing to stop the rich from gaining control either by trying to implement socialized systems of help, and it has been proven very well in our own times. Listen here, throughout history the most pervasively evil thing that has afflicted mankind has not been rich people, but powerful people in governments. Now the rich can be countered more easily by the poor if these join forces than governments can be. In a world where we only had to worry about capitalists, at least we would stand a chance, but against governments having power you stand no chance whatsoever, they will corrupt most and kill off the rest.

So parting from the base argument that we're mostly screwed either way, I chose to support the least pervasive evil. In a free market system, with no governments able to bail out corporations with public funds, the rich would have it much harder to attain that kind of control you speak about. I tell you, the evil rich people that dominate the world nowadays have been able to do so by taking over governments which were already too powerful because they presented themselves as saviors for the gullible masses.
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It seems the actual problem isn't capitalism or socialism
But how to prevent either from falling into extremes

Predatory Capitalism vs Parasitic Socialism

The problem is man being unaware of his own psychology and the consequences of his actions, the problem is lack of knowledge, morality and wisdom
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Scroll down and observe Gates MSFT personal stock sales for the last 2 years! See the VALUE column (currently worth $67 Billion)

This is yahoo insider trading for MSFT;

[link to finance.yahoo.com]

On April 24, 2012; $209,170,000 on 1 sale!
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Good gawd he's been dumping his stock like crazy. $100+ million at a time over and over again.

The Cloud is doing in MS.
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It seems the actual problem isn't capitalism or socialism
But how to prevent either from falling into extremes

Predatory Capitalism vs Parasitic Socialism

The problem is man being unaware of his own psychology and the consequences of his actions, the problem is lack of knowledge, morality and wisdom
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Of course that's the problem, but then a system can't be expected to fix the problem inherently, because the problem can't be actually fixed in my opinion, but it should strive to MINIMIZE its worse effects having in mind that perfection will never be attained.
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Bill gates is a pile of nazi garbage. I hope he chokes.
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So parting from the base argument that we're mostly screwed either way, I chose to support the least pervasive evil. In a free market system, with no governments able to bail out corporations with public funds, the rich would have it much harder to attain that kind of control you speak about. I tell you, the evil rich people that dominate the world nowadays have been able to do so by taking over governments which were already too powerful because they presented themselves as saviors for the gullible masses.
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Yeah I know how socialism ends, and I agree that a tyrannical government is a much bigger problem for everyone than rich individuals/corporations, but I would argue that even those rich individuals/corporations could eventually band together to form a government to exploit others, they have the resources to do so. Corporations today even have their own private security forces(mini armies).

There has to be a way to safely combine the two economic philosophies where people are still rewarded for their work and aren't taxed into oblivion, the poor are given a chance and cannot have a free ride, and a government that knows its boundaries and doesn't exceed them.

But I guess that requires a better kind of human than the kind we have right now, how do we produce this human if we nurture predatory or parasitic tendencies.
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Re: Bill Gates says capitalism is a fucking shit
It seems the actual problem isn't capitalism or socialism
But how to prevent either from falling into extremes

Predatory Capitalism vs Parasitic Socialism

The problem is man being unaware of his own psychology and the consequences of his actions, the problem is lack of knowledge, morality and wisdom
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A balanced view. Thanks.
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It seems the actual problem isn't capitalism or socialism
But how to prevent either from falling into extremes

Predatory Capitalism vs Parasitic Socialism

The problem is man being unaware of his own psychology and the consequences of his actions, the problem is lack of knowledge, morality and wisdom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30766780


Of course that's the problem, but then a system can't be expected to fix the problem inherently, because the problem can't be actually fixed in my opinion, but it should strive to MINIMIZE its worse effects having in mind that perfection will never be attained.
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Agreed
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Windows wasn't Capitalism.
Windows was Dictatorship and Cruel and Bullying and Cost too much!!!


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Not quite. It's the best system we have and it made him a billionaire.
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So what does being able to freely become a billionaire have to do with it? Surely he could have done the same thing in Socialist Sweden or in any other market regulated country.

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He's not too bright. Where does he suppose the money for donations come from if not for capitalism?

Maybe he should visit North Korea.
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Re: Bill Gates says capitalism is a fucking shit
Not quite. It's the best system we have and it made him a billionaire.
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So what does being able to freely become a billionaire have to do with it? Surely he could have done the same thing in Socialist Sweden or in any other market regulated country.

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Umm, no. Otherwise someone from one of those countries would have done what Gates did. But they didn't because it's too damn hard to create a new business over there...much like the US has now become.
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Only the rich worry or ponder of such things.

Meanwhile on the bottom of the ladder ...

We wonder how to pay our bills and food and gas prices while working full time jobs with poverty level wages.

I wish I had time to worry about things that are completely meaningless to me too. Maybe people with money just have too much time on their hands?

I was at this guy's house the other day. He had a mansion with several cars and a lake behind his house. He said, "What am I paying your company for? You're always late. I'm calling your office today and getting this service free. This is just ridiculous."

Indeed.
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Not quite. It's the best system we have and it made him a billionaire.
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With the current shit system you have, humans will survive maximum another 100 years.You have already ripped whole planet apart.You keep on changing the planet.But you will not evolve that past to adopt the changing planet.It is fucking toxic and over crowded.You need divine intervention to stop it.Humans are not evolved enough to understand or control the coming disaster.You greedy politicians,shit dictators and fucking billionaires will take human race in to extinction.
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Anarchy-Capitalism, that's the only feasible Capitalistic system that doesn't seize total control and turn into monopoly capitalism.

Unfortunately it will probably never happen.
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cheers

Anarcho-Capitalism, FTW!
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clappa
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I guess rich people are stupid too. Capitalism is fine if practiced by moral and ethical people. It is evil that is destroying this country.
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the rich fund projects like hair loss and keeping their dicks hard 24 hrs a day.
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I guess rich people are stupid too. Capitalism is fine if practiced by moral and ethical people. It is evil that is destroying this country.
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Agree, and it's destroying the planet.

I guess life balances this out by shuffling the deck periodically with different circumstances. Periods of war and peace, concentration and dilution.
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This is funny ...

I work for a company that made a hundred million dollars last year. They were very happy about this. So happy ... they gave us all chocolate bars to thank us. Grown men getting candy bars for the company making one hundred million dollars.

I laughed when I got mine. What else can a man do with such insanity?
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Billionaire Bill Gates blasts capitalism saying that it's the reason why research for 'male baldness gets more funding than malaria'

The motherfucker can give me his money and then not have to worry about it!


By Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED:00:31, 16 March 2013| UPDATED:00:31, 16 March 2013
Billionaire Bill Gates criticized capitalism saying that it causes fundraising efforts to go to trivial issues that bother rich people a opposed to global health epidemics that are devastating the poor.

The Microsoft founder was speaking at a conference about his latest philanthropic push to end malaria, saying that it gets slighted in terms of funding because the ones with the checkbooks


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From what I understand, many of the large corporations are against capitalism because they do not believe in competition, or free markets.
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Windows wasn't Capitalism.
Windows was Dictatorship and Cruel and Bullying and Cost too much!!!


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I say Windows is often a bunch of shit.
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and capitalism made it the number 1 os when it is actually one of the worst.
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Not quite. It's the best system we have and it made him a billionaire.
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He can afford spitting the well he drank from now.
What a jerk. I assume communism would make his wet dreams come true.
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I think capitalism works well.....paper money not so much.
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Must be hell being so confused in your terms.

Seems like you Metal-Heads only understand Money when it is in either Gold or Lead.bullet forms.

The Monetarist is the same as the Predatory Capitalist, the Socialist, the Communist, the Fascist. All you all can understand is Metal. Ya all got a good case of lethal metal fever.
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A piece of paper is somones word they will honor it. Metals are something we can all understand.
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Let me know when the physics change....
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Re: Bill Gates says capitalism is a fucking shit
Noting like that. He's just talking about how important is the malaria over hair loss.
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Re: Bill Gates says capitalism is a fucking shit
If I was a $ behind Bill Gates I would bitch about capitalism too.
If he wants to throw a few million at me, not only will I bitch about capitalism, I will make fucking long ass winded speeches in public about it too.
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Find me gates, I too will craft the most eloquent fucking long ass winded speeches.
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capitalism is man made competition to fuck the earth and rip the planet earth apart.I dont support the communism which support to produce evrything for every body as well.

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