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When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?

 
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When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?
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Seems like a lot of work.
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Pinecones.
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Eating might be more important....
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ain't nobody got time for that
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Eating might be more important....
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But if what you eat is Unsanitary you will die regardless.
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maybe you die earlier waiting for the shtf, but never witness it
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Colloidal Silver
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sand..in water..form a grit...


God talk about "Lost"
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White Vinegar!
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SCRUBBY DUTCH.
This is a Karate Dojo, Not a Knitting Class!
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Bleach.......for everything.
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Re: When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?
Baking soda

Apple cider vinegar

Peroxide

Table salt

Vodka

Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible.
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Re: When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?
Baking soda

Apple cider vinegar

Peroxide

Table salt

Vodka

Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible.
 Quoting: Meadow 1560850


what's wrong with bleach?
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maybe use heavy duty aluminum foil to line pots and pans? just throw the foil out. no cleaning necessary.
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Poop-a-way spray!

But wait! there's moar!

Act now and I'll throw in a Shamwow!
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Re: When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?
Baking soda

Apple cider vinegar

Peroxide

Table salt

Vodka

Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible.
 Quoting: Meadow 1560850


what's wrong with bleach?
 Quoting: waxonwaxoff


Hard to rinse, fumes are not good to breathe, danger of spills and leakage.

100% vodka is better for killing germs.

Same goes for apple cider vinegar, 5% solution mix it with water. Kills surface bacteria on contact. No rinsing.

Bleach requires rinsing and if the surface is damp, you can't allow food to come in contact with it.

Bleach is good for sterilizing water, and that's about it.
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Re: When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?
Baking soda

Apple cider vinegar

Peroxide

Table salt

Vodka

Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible.
 Quoting: Meadow 1560850


what's wrong with bleach?
 Quoting: waxonwaxoff


Hard to rinse, fumes are not good to breathe, danger of spills and leakage.

100% vodka is better for killing germs.

Same goes for apple cider vinegar, 5% solution mix it with water. Kills surface bacteria on contact. No rinsing.

Bleach requires rinsing and if the surface is damp, you can't allow food to come in contact with it.

Bleach is good for sterilizing water, and that's about it.
 Quoting: Meadow 1560850


y_smile Thanks! I like simple and natural. Salt, vinegar and soda sound good to me. The vodka too, but it's not going to be for cleaning!
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12 Gauge, the ultimate SHTF House cleaner!
"Don't do anything that affects anything. Unless it turns out you were supposed to do it, in which case for the love of God. Don't not do it!"
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piss & vinegar.


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Re: When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?
It is really bad when ignorant people post when they do not know what they are talking about or stupid posts. SANITATION is just as important if not bmore so than food or guns. Remember there is no stupid question... especially this one!!! The person who asked this question is not thje fool here. Improper sanitation will kill more than starvation. You require a well rounded plan to survive. I am looking at what I have now and how long each item will last (toothpaste, cleaning supplies, ect) write down the date on the item you open it and that way you can find out how many you will need for X amount of time.
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Kaboom, all purpose, and Comet cleanser.
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Re: When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?
Baking soda

Apple cider vinegar

Peroxide

Table salt

Vodka

Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible.
 Quoting: Meadow 1560850


Fire smoke
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It is really bad when ignorant people post when they do not know what they are talking about or stupid posts. SANITATION is just as important if not bmore so than food or guns. Remember there is no stupid question... especially this one!!! The person who asked this question is not thje fool here. Improper sanitation will kill more than starvation. You require a well rounded plan to survive. I am looking at what I have now and how long each item will last (toothpaste, cleaning supplies, ect) write down the date on the item you open it and that way you can find out how many you will need for X amount of time.
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any thing that affects normal enviromentenvironment for bacteria to thrive....is your friend
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Re: When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?
Baking soda

Apple cider vinegar

Peroxide

Table salt

Vodka

Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible.
 Quoting: Meadow 1560850


what's wrong with bleach?
 Quoting: waxonwaxoff


Hard to rinse, fumes are not good to breathe, danger of spills and leakage.

100% vodka is better for killing germs.

Same goes for apple cider vinegar, 5% solution mix it with water. Kills surface bacteria on contact. No rinsing.

Bleach requires rinsing and if the surface is damp, you can't allow food to come in contact with it.

Bleach is good for sterilizing water, and that's about it.
 Quoting: Meadow 1560850


I am sorry but your information sucks.
The OP is talking SHTF here, not which cleaner is greener or which is safer. They asked which cleaning products should they stock.

1. You don't have to rinse bleach, it completely evaporates.
Yes the fumes are irritating, so cut it with water before you use it.

2. There is no such thing as 100% Vodka. Not even from Russia, anything you "clean" with vodka will have sugar residue on it. Like that's not going to attract bugs or anything.

3. It's not even been proven that Apple Cider Vinegar kills germs. Seriously, there are a few loose articles and bunch of woo-woo's who talk about the benefits of drinking it. (drink a cup of bleach and tell me how healthy you are, remember we are trying to kill germs here)

4. Bleach does not require rinsing. Just let it dry and it's gone.

5. Yes, Bleach is good for sterilizing water.

So to answer the OP's question,
If I had to pick one chemical to hoard for SHTF...
Bleach. Bar None...

If I could pick two...
Bleach and Iodine

As for Alcohol, I can make Alcohol if I need it.

As for Apple Cider Vinegar... I am not trying to remove negative ions from my colon or some shit like that... I am trying to KILL GERMS SO I DON'T GET SICK.

One caveat is that Vinegar CAN be added to Bleach to change the ph of the Bleach and make it more effective. Vinegar alone is never recommended as a disinfectant.
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.308 will clean house......
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And for the record, I've made my living for the past 15 years by going into disaster areas and decontaminating.

The only reason we use anything other than bleach (and we use a ton of bleach) is because bleach can destroy "bleach" certain materials.

But for pure KILLING POWER vs. Availability, vs. Ease of use, nothing and I mean nothing even comes close to bleach.
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Re: When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?
vinegar and rubbing alcohol.
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Just make yourself some pinsol soup.

Why not, everyone else does.
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Re: When the SHTF, what cleaning products should I use?
Baking soda

Apple cider vinegar

Peroxide

Table salt

Vodka

Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible.
 Quoting: Meadow 1560850


what's wrong with bleach?
 Quoting: waxonwaxoff


Hard to rinse, fumes are not good to breathe, danger of spills and leakage.

100% vodka is better for killing germs.

Same goes for apple cider vinegar, 5% solution mix it with water. Kills surface bacteria on contact. No rinsing.

Bleach requires rinsing and if the surface is damp, you can't allow food to come in contact with it.

Bleach is good for sterilizing water, and that's about it.
 Quoting: Meadow 1560850


I am sorry but your information sucks.
The OP is talking SHTF here, not which cleaner is greener or which is safer. They asked which cleaning products should they stock.

1. You don't have to rinse bleach, it completely evaporates.
Yes the fumes are irritating, so cut it with water before you use it.

2. There is no such thing as 100% Vodka. Not even from Russia, anything you "clean" with vodka will have sugar residue on it. Like that's not going to attract bugs or anything.

3. It's not even been proven that Apple Cider Vinegar kills germs. Seriously, there are a few loose articles and bunch of woo-woo's who talk about the benefits of drinking it. (drink a cup of bleach and tell me how healthy you are, remember we are trying to kill germs here)

4. Bleach does not require rinsing. Just let it dry and it's gone.

5. Yes, Bleach is good for sterilizing water.

So to answer the OP's question,
If I had to pick one chemical to hoard for SHTF...
Bleach. Bar None...

If I could pick two...
Bleach and Iodine

As for Alcohol, I can make Alcohol if I need it.

As for Apple Cider Vinegar... I am not trying to remove negative ions from my colon or some shit like that... I am trying to KILL GERMS SO I DON'T GET SICK.

One caveat is that Vinegar CAN be added to Bleach to change the ph of the Bleach and make it more effective. Vinegar alone is never recommended as a disinfectant.
 Quoting: El Tiburon

As far as cleaning in SHTF situation, personal Hygiene is the most important. Secondly will be water, food and food prep hygiene.
One thing to remember is that you WILL run out of cleaning products, eventually.
So you should slowly reduce the "cleaning" products you use, to get your body to build up its natural immune defenses. This includes; hand sanitizer, antibiotic hand soap, dish detergent and similar products.
One must be sensible about this, but we live in a very "clean" environment vs a SHTF environment, so one must prepare accordingly or your immune system will not be able to keep you well.

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