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Meadow User ID: 1560850 United States 03/17/2013 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Baking soda Quoting: Meadow 1560850 Apple cider vinegar Peroxide Table salt Vodka Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible. what's wrong with bleach? Hard to rinse, fumes are not good to breathe, danger of spills and leakage. 100% vodka is better for killing germs. Same goes for apple cider vinegar, 5% solution mix it with water. Kills surface bacteria on contact. No rinsing. Bleach requires rinsing and if the surface is damp, you can't allow food to come in contact with it. Bleach is good for sterilizing water, and that's about it. |
waxonwaxoff User ID: 36046167 Spain 03/17/2013 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Baking soda Quoting: Meadow 1560850 Apple cider vinegar Peroxide Table salt Vodka Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible. what's wrong with bleach? Hard to rinse, fumes are not good to breathe, danger of spills and leakage. 100% vodka is better for killing germs. Same goes for apple cider vinegar, 5% solution mix it with water. Kills surface bacteria on contact. No rinsing. Bleach requires rinsing and if the surface is damp, you can't allow food to come in contact with it. Bleach is good for sterilizing water, and that's about it. Thanks! I like simple and natural. Salt, vinegar and soda sound good to me. The vodka too, but it's not going to be for cleaning! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35720988 United States 03/25/2013 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is really bad when ignorant people post when they do not know what they are talking about or stupid posts. SANITATION is just as important if not bmore so than food or guns. Remember there is no stupid question... especially this one!!! The person who asked this question is not thje fool here. Improper sanitation will kill more than starvation. You require a well rounded plan to survive. I am looking at what I have now and how long each item will last (toothpaste, cleaning supplies, ect) write down the date on the item you open it and that way you can find out how many you will need for X amount of time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36694466 United States 03/25/2013 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is really bad when ignorant people post when they do not know what they are talking about or stupid posts. SANITATION is just as important if not bmore so than food or guns. Remember there is no stupid question... especially this one!!! The person who asked this question is not thje fool here. Improper sanitation will kill more than starvation. You require a well rounded plan to survive. I am looking at what I have now and how long each item will last (toothpaste, cleaning supplies, ect) write down the date on the item you open it and that way you can find out how many you will need for X amount of time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35720988 any thing that affects normal enviromentenvironment for bacteria to thrive....is your friend |
El Tiburon User ID: 28375544 United States 03/25/2013 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Baking soda Quoting: Meadow 1560850 Apple cider vinegar Peroxide Table salt Vodka Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible. what's wrong with bleach? Hard to rinse, fumes are not good to breathe, danger of spills and leakage. 100% vodka is better for killing germs. Same goes for apple cider vinegar, 5% solution mix it with water. Kills surface bacteria on contact. No rinsing. Bleach requires rinsing and if the surface is damp, you can't allow food to come in contact with it. Bleach is good for sterilizing water, and that's about it. I am sorry but your information sucks. The OP is talking SHTF here, not which cleaner is greener or which is safer. They asked which cleaning products should they stock. 1. You don't have to rinse bleach, it completely evaporates. Yes the fumes are irritating, so cut it with water before you use it. 2. There is no such thing as 100% Vodka. Not even from Russia, anything you "clean" with vodka will have sugar residue on it. Like that's not going to attract bugs or anything. 3. It's not even been proven that Apple Cider Vinegar kills germs. Seriously, there are a few loose articles and bunch of woo-woo's who talk about the benefits of drinking it. (drink a cup of bleach and tell me how healthy you are, remember we are trying to kill germs here) 4. Bleach does not require rinsing. Just let it dry and it's gone. 5. Yes, Bleach is good for sterilizing water. So to answer the OP's question, If I had to pick one chemical to hoard for SHTF... Bleach. Bar None... If I could pick two... Bleach and Iodine As for Alcohol, I can make Alcohol if I need it. As for Apple Cider Vinegar... I am not trying to remove negative ions from my colon or some shit like that... I am trying to KILL GERMS SO I DON'T GET SICK. One caveat is that Vinegar CAN be added to Bleach to change the ph of the Bleach and make it more effective. Vinegar alone is never recommended as a disinfectant. |
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El Tiburon User ID: 28375544 United States 03/25/2013 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And for the record, I've made my living for the past 15 years by going into disaster areas and decontaminating. The only reason we use anything other than bleach (and we use a ton of bleach) is because bleach can destroy "bleach" certain materials. But for pure KILLING POWER vs. Availability, vs. Ease of use, nothing and I mean nothing even comes close to bleach. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36721623 United States 03/25/2013 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Baking soda Quoting: Meadow 1560850 Apple cider vinegar Peroxide Table salt Vodka Keep a supply of these on hand: old towels, washcloths, spray bottles. You'll need to keep yourself and your surroundings as bacteria free as possible. what's wrong with bleach? Hard to rinse, fumes are not good to breathe, danger of spills and leakage. 100% vodka is better for killing germs. Same goes for apple cider vinegar, 5% solution mix it with water. Kills surface bacteria on contact. No rinsing. Bleach requires rinsing and if the surface is damp, you can't allow food to come in contact with it. Bleach is good for sterilizing water, and that's about it. I am sorry but your information sucks. The OP is talking SHTF here, not which cleaner is greener or which is safer. They asked which cleaning products should they stock. 1. You don't have to rinse bleach, it completely evaporates. Yes the fumes are irritating, so cut it with water before you use it. 2. There is no such thing as 100% Vodka. Not even from Russia, anything you "clean" with vodka will have sugar residue on it. Like that's not going to attract bugs or anything. 3. It's not even been proven that Apple Cider Vinegar kills germs. Seriously, there are a few loose articles and bunch of woo-woo's who talk about the benefits of drinking it. (drink a cup of bleach and tell me how healthy you are, remember we are trying to kill germs here) 4. Bleach does not require rinsing. Just let it dry and it's gone. 5. Yes, Bleach is good for sterilizing water. So to answer the OP's question, If I had to pick one chemical to hoard for SHTF... Bleach. Bar None... If I could pick two... Bleach and Iodine As for Alcohol, I can make Alcohol if I need it. As for Apple Cider Vinegar... I am not trying to remove negative ions from my colon or some shit like that... I am trying to KILL GERMS SO I DON'T GET SICK. One caveat is that Vinegar CAN be added to Bleach to change the ph of the Bleach and make it more effective. Vinegar alone is never recommended as a disinfectant. As far as cleaning in SHTF situation, personal Hygiene is the most important. Secondly will be water, food and food prep hygiene. One thing to remember is that you WILL run out of cleaning products, eventually. So you should slowly reduce the "cleaning" products you use, to get your body to build up its natural immune defenses. This includes; hand sanitizer, antibiotic hand soap, dish detergent and similar products. One must be sensible about this, but we live in a very "clean" environment vs a SHTF environment, so one must prepare accordingly or your immune system will not be able to keep you well. |