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I'm Undocumented and I Want Affordable Healthcare

 
Earth Daughter

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03/17/2013 07:32 AM

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You know, Mexico has had a national health care system for years now. It covers everybody. Maybe illegals could go there. I'm sure Mexico wouldn't deny medical care to any human being, documented or not.
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All foreigners get free health care in Canada too. That includes Americans who sneak in here to get it.
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Don't they have to be a resident for a few years before they get it? At least, that's what my cousin who lives there said.
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03/17/2013 07:34 AM
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I as a Canadian and tax payer big time to my country have no problem paying to help someone in need of healthcare. What I have a problem with is the abuse of a system like we have. That's it.
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03/17/2013 07:35 AM
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I started seeing this commercial on TV last week in Los Angeles.

Hear me yelling at the TV:

"Hell No!!! Pack your bags!"
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03/17/2013 07:38 AM
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FACT: Countries with subsidized healthcare for all DO NOT SUPPORT ISRAEL TO THE EXTENT OF THE U.S.

FACT: YOU CANNOT SUBSIDIZE HEALTHCARE FOR YOUR COUNTRYMEN AND SUPPORT ISRAEL AT THE SAME TIME.

FACT: IF YOU DON'T WANT SUSIDIZED HEALTHCARE, THEN YOU SUPPORT ISRAEL MORE THAN YOUR OWN COUNTRYMEN.

FACT: REPUKES SUPPORT ISRAEL MORE THAN THEIR OWN COUNTRYMEN

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You know, Mexico has had a national health care system for years now. It covers everybody. Maybe illegals could go there. I'm sure Mexico wouldn't deny medical care to any human being, documented or not.
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All foreigners get free health care in Canada too. That includes Americans who sneak in here to get it.
 Quoting: ++Kate++


Don't they have to be a resident for a few years before they get it? At least, that's what my cousin who lives there said.
 Quoting: Earth Daughter


You can't come over and get it, something has to happen to you here and we look after you. You know what happens to a Canadian in the US? Our country freaks out and sends a plane to bring us home to get looked after, it's cheaper! LOL I think your country is retarded when it comes to health care from what I've looked into.
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03/17/2013 07:41 AM
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Everyone should have health care as a matter of public health. I don't want the people who handle my food or debit card or brush by me in a movie theater to have some awful contagious disease. I'm guessing you pay a greater percentage of your income in tax than most. I hope you see that health care is not just a freebie for poor folks but a public good that benefits us all.

I don't want sickos in my workplace or on my commute, spreading their germs because they can't afford to ser a doctor or take the day off.
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03/17/2013 07:43 AM
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Organized crime loves these poor, suffering people.
Organized crime will form a NEW government bureaucracy to FUND the WELFARE and well being of these poor suffering people. They will also bring in lots of taxpayer funding to 'study the impact' of this new office.
If you don't agree then you are a Greedy Capitalist Racist!!!

More funding pleeeeease.....
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You know, Mexico has had a national health care system for years now. It covers everybody. Maybe illegals could go there. I'm sure Mexico wouldn't deny medical care to any human being, documented or not.
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All foreigners get free health care in Canada too. That includes Americans who sneak in here to get it.
 Quoting: ++Kate++


Don't they have to be a resident for a few years before they get it? At least, that's what my cousin who lives there said.
 Quoting: Earth Daughter


You can't come over and get it, something has to happen to you here and we look after you. You know what happens to a Canadian in the US? Our country freaks out and sends a plane to bring us home to get looked after, it's cheaper! LOL I think your country is retarded when it comes to health care from what I've looked into.
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Yeah, my Aunt and Uncle from Canada would take out special travel health insurance whenever they traveled into the USA.
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I as a Canadian and tax payer big time to my country have no problem paying to help someone in need of healthcare. What I have a problem with is the abuse of a system like we have. That's it.
 Quoting: ++Kate++


yes, but how do you stop the abuse?
answer: you can't.
the $$$ all goes to organized crime and not where it is supposed to go. organized crime uses poor people as a front to obtain funding. is there a way to stop that? probably not. so in effect you are actually funding organized crime.
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03/17/2013 07:48 AM
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What is their bitch? That they do not get it for FREE.

They are allowed to go use their money and purchase health insurance at their own free will just like everyone else.



What health insurance is available to illegal immigrants?

Illegal immigrants may buy health insurance from private health insurance companies but not every plan may be available. Because many illegal immigrants may be working for companies that do not officially document them on the payroll, they may not be eligible to participate in-group health plans offered by an employer. However, they may purchase individual policies through private insurers.
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03/17/2013 07:52 AM
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Here is a solution:

Go apply for US citizenship:

Here's for location for the forms.
[link to www.uscis.gov]

Then when one becomes a US Citizen ... they will get the same stuff as every other US Citizen.

Just because the US is a Free Country does not mean everything is FREE.
0311INFANTRYSIR

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03/17/2013 08:04 AM

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Just because I'm here illegally doesn't mean I don't deserve free stuff!


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Well, if you are in Obamaland then you are good. I have a job and will pay your shit, plus mine. No Problem.

Have fun watching soaps all day while I'm at work. The least you could do is give me a reach around....
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03/17/2013 08:06 AM

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REPUKES = In favor of SUPPLYING ISRAEL with BILLIONS in military and general aid, yet AGAINST subsidized healthcare for their OWN FELLOW COUNTRYMEN!

REPUKES = LOVE ISRAEL MORE THAN AMERICA!

REPUBES = SUPPORT ISRAEL'S "RIGHT TO EXIST" BEFORE THE HEALTH OF FELLOW COUNTRYMEN!

REPUBES = TRAITORS AND SHOULD ALL EAT A BULLET!

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013


No clue how the US dollar works or why we give it away to other countries and how that raises the value of the dollar not lowers it?

You would acutely devalue the dollar if you cut all foreign aid, it would quickly collapse in on itself. So if you gave all the foreign aid away to Americans rather than other countries it would be DEVALUE the dollar instantly.

Great “free” education you got form the government already congrats! That education would be just as good as your free government healthcare for everyone.
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
0311INFANTRYSIR

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03/17/2013 08:07 AM

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All foreigners get free health care in Canada too. That includes Americans who sneak in here to get it.
 Quoting: ++Kate++


Don't they have to be a resident for a few years before they get it? At least, that's what my cousin who lives there said.
 Quoting: Earth Daughter


You can't come over and get it, something has to happen to you here and we look after you. You know what happens to a Canadian in the US? Our country freaks out and sends a plane to bring us home to get looked after, it's cheaper! LOL I think your country is retarded when it comes to health care from what I've looked into.
 Quoting: ++Kate++


Yeah, my Aunt and Uncle from Canada would take out special travel health insurance whenever they traveled into the USA.
 Quoting: Earth Daughter


Actually, American hospitals HAVE TO provide emergency health care to "Anyone" who needs it. Follow-up care however, is up to you. As it should be.
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03/17/2013 08:07 AM
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Considering the current administration is spending over $1 trillion more than it takes in, where the hell does ANYONE, let alone illegal aliens, think the money for free health insurance comes from? As it is now, the upper 25% of wage earners in America pay over 86% of the taxes. We borrow the rest from China, Saudi Arabia, and other countries.

We cannot afford more uncontrolled spending.

The government doesn't create money. It never did. All it can do is take money from the producers and give it to the non-producers. And when the Federal Reserve prints up money with their "quantitative easing"? That simply causes inflation. This is why food, gas, heating oil, prices are skyrocketing. This is why the cost of shipping is up. This is why everything you buy costs more.

And yet, these illegal aliens think we should give them free health insurance.

This would be like discovering a criminal and his family were living in your garage, and they start demanding YOU pay for their medical costs. Then the government tells you that you can't kick them off your property and they're going to garnish your wages to support these trespassers.
now what
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03/17/2013 08:09 AM
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Just because I'm here illegally doesn't mean I don't deserve free stuff!


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i am documented and always payed taxes. loosing all my teeth but for me to get help i cant have more than1500. in the bank. im dreaming of helth care fu
Anonymous Coward
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03/17/2013 08:13 AM
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This gets sicker by the day...the nazis in washington have done this....the head nazi loves you...why don't you freeload off him and mochelle? He'll be glad to pay your expenses....he let you in.
ehecatl

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03/17/2013 08:16 AM
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Dumbass.

Move to Mexico.

Free comprehensive national health, dental and optical care for all citizens, and no income taxes for common workers.

Mexico can do it but the US can't.

...and if you're not a citizen, out of pocket costs 1/10th of what it costs in the US. That is because people have the freedom to choose any kind of doctor they wish, licensed or otherwise. the whole healthcare problem is based on the corrupt pyramid of the medical and insurance establishment which is composed of some of the worst blood sucking vampire parasites on the planet. That is what is "broken", but it is not broken at all. It is in fact a very huge well designed pyramid of power money and control.

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Just because I'm here illegally doesn't mean I don't deserve free stuff!


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Do you know how to cut grass?
Anonymous Coward
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03/17/2013 08:18 AM
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Dumbass.

Move to Mexico.

Free comprehensive national health, dental and optical care for all citizens, and no income taxes for common workers.

Mexico can do it but the US can't.
 Quoting: ehecatl


And look at the quality of life in Mexico. Tuberculosis running rampant, wide-spread poverty, drug gangs controlling major regions... see, this is the end result of socialism.

Thanks for supporting my points.
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03/17/2013 08:21 AM
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Yup, It's cheaper to put their asses on a one way flight back to their Motherland.

I work too hard to give a free ride to a non citizen.
ehecatl

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03/17/2013 08:24 AM
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Dumbass.

Move to Mexico.

Free comprehensive national health, dental and optical care for all citizens, and no income taxes for common workers.

Mexico can do it but the US can't.
 Quoting: ehecatl


And look at the quality of life in Mexico. Tuberculosis running rampant, wide-spread poverty, drug gangs controlling major regions... see, this is the end result of socialism.

Thanks for supporting my points.
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Nice psy-op stories which both the US and Mexico cooperate to produce (because neither Mexico or the US, or myself either, wants more immigrants here), but I've never experienced ANY of that in the ten years I have lived in central Mexico and traveled around the country.

I favor free market over socialism too, but the problem with the US approach is NOT socialism, it is the corrupt pyramid of expenses of the medical system itself. That whole pyramid could be taken down by simply giving the people the freedom choose any kind of "doctor" they wish. Licensed, or witch doctor, all at their own risk.

That is how reality should work, and really does work.

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03/17/2013 08:26 AM
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It isn't "free" healthcare, this isn't "their" country, and they don't "deserve" anything. They're breaking our laws by illegally being here and they want benefits and free stuff? The only thing they're entitled to is a free bus ride to their country of origin. If you want to reap the benefits of being a citizen, you have to BE A CITIZEN.
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I say charge them for the bus ride, also.
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03/17/2013 08:32 AM
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Dumbass.

Move to Mexico.

Free comprehensive national health, dental and optical care for all citizens, and no income taxes for common workers.

Mexico can do it but the US can't.
 Quoting: ehecatl


And look at the quality of life in Mexico. Tuberculosis running rampant, wide-spread poverty, drug gangs controlling major regions... see, this is the end result of socialism.

Thanks for supporting my points.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32739945


Nice psy-op stories which both the US and Mexico cooperate to produce (because neither Mexico or the US, or myself either, wants more immigrants here), but I've never experienced ANY of that in the ten years I have lived in central Mexico and traveled around the country.

I favor free market over socialism too, but the problem with the US approach is NOT socialism, it is the corrupt pyramid of expenses of the medical system itself. That whole pyramid could be taken down by simply giving the people the freedom choose any kind of "doctor" they wish. Licensed, or witch doctor, all at their own risk.

That is how reality should work, and really does work.
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Try visiting Juarez some time, then get back to me.
ehecatl

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03/17/2013 08:41 AM
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Dumbass.

Move to Mexico.

Free comprehensive national health, dental and optical care for all citizens, and no income taxes for common workers.

Mexico can do it but the US can't.
 Quoting: ehecatl


And look at the quality of life in Mexico. Tuberculosis running rampant, wide-spread poverty, drug gangs controlling major regions... see, this is the end result of socialism.

Thanks for supporting my points.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32739945


Nice psy-op stories which both the US and Mexico cooperate to produce (because neither Mexico or the US, or myself either, wants more immigrants here), but I've never experienced ANY of that in the ten years I have lived in central Mexico and traveled around the country.

I favor free market over socialism too, but the problem with the US approach is NOT socialism, it is the corrupt pyramid of expenses of the medical system itself. That whole pyramid could be taken down by simply giving the people the freedom choose any kind of "doctor" they wish. Licensed, or witch doctor, all at their own risk.

That is how reality should work, and really does work.
 Quoting: ehecatl


Try visiting Juarez some time, then get back to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32739945


The northern boarder towns regions are all scummy corrupt and very dangerous, just like you describe.

I would never choose to set foot in that area.

Different areas are different and there is a reason why all the scum is along the northern boarder. Have you ever thought about that?

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The fundamental problem with the US health care "system", are the laws which prevent people from choosing whatever type of doctor or treatment that they wish.
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You know, Mexico has had a national health care system for years now. It covers everybody. Maybe illegals could go there. I'm sure Mexico wouldn't deny medical care to any human being, documented or not.
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All foreigners get free health care in Canada too. That includes Americans who sneak in here to get it.
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I am not sure you can just SNEAK in and get free healthcare or there would be a LOT more sneaking going on! I would be first across the boarder. We were hit by a drunk driver in Canada and provided EXCELLENT service, ambulance, ER care and hospital for the whole family and they boarded the dog and took him to a vet. We never received a bill, ever. but we did have to fill out a giant stack of paperwork showing why we were in Canada, where we were traveling and why and where we lived in the US. I am pretty sure they were making sure we were traveling through on vacation and not having SNUCK across for free healthcare, whcich seemed apparent sicne we were nearly killed by a drunk driver. I imagine they document all non-citizen care inthe same way. years later we were traveling through again and needed care for a broken leg and they actually said, I see you received care here in19??. So they keep track. We did not have to pay for the broken leg either, althought they did give us a contact person and a payment envolope to make any payment we could, since we did not live there.
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Ibrahim

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03/17/2013 08:52 AM
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Go and live in the jungle its healthier
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03/17/2013 08:54 AM
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You chose the wrong country to leech off of, motherfuckers. Hell, I'm documented and I can't afford healthcare!

Go to fucking Europe for your free healthcare.
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^^^^^^^^^^
How about we buy them plane tickets and send them to Europe instead of providing free healthcare. I would rather ,y money go towards deportation instead of free healthcare.
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FUCK OBAMEE 2
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