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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5077735 United States 03/17/2013 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You chose the wrong country to leech off of, motherfuckers. Hell, I'm documented and I can't afford healthcare! Quoting: Earth Daughter Go to fucking Europe for your free healthcare. ^^^^^^^^^^ How about we buy them plane tickets and send them to Europe instead of providing free healthcare. I would rather ,y money go towards deportation instead of free healthcare. It would sure ne cheaper on us except send em tosome remote island it would take em longer to slime back. |
ehecatl User ID: 36305764 Mexico 03/17/2013 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a great smilie of genocidal professor Jose Angel Gutierrez! At least he got the first part of his quote right. The world population explosion is a total myth too. But the second part is the same genocidal rhetoric that all the powers that be and their academic cronies sing in unison without end. What those materialistic dumbasses may not realize is that killing people's bodies does not really kill them, and whatever it is they are afraid of will come back to haunt them, multiplied. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23657849 United States 03/17/2013 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REPUKES = In favor of SUPPLYING ISRAEL with BILLIONS in military and general aid, yet AGAINST subsidized healthcare for their OWN FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 REPUKES = LOVE ISRAEL MORE THAN AMERICA! REPUBES = SUPPORT ISRAEL'S "RIGHT TO EXIST" BEFORE THE HEALTH OF FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! REPUBES = TRAITORS AND SHOULD ALL EAT A BULLET! REPUBES Isn't it interesting that they NEVER respond when you bring this up? D |
M*walk Low Earth Orbit User ID: 1067150 United States 03/17/2013 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what's wrong? Will free healthcare take away from the military budget? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 Will it take away from the billions we give Israel every year? ^^THIS^^ I'd much rather see my tax dollars used to provide free or very low cost health care to the American people than for it to keep lining the pockets of defense contractors, weapons dealers and other merchants of death. Of course the way our medical system is currently set up is completely fucked - that would have to change too. Pay health care professionals a normal salary and have them focus on getting good results, not pay per 'procedure' or kickbacks for prescribing masses of meds to mask symptoms for as long as possible without curing the disease or killing the mark, er patient. And BigPharma & BigAg can go fuck themselves. The majority of their 'products' are what is making people so unhealthy. WHY? because its not FREE?! Not all procedures go that way, missing the mark. Last Edited by M*walk on 03/17/2013 09:14 AM “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23657849 United States 03/17/2013 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REPUKES = In favor of SUPPLYING ISRAEL with BILLIONS in military and general aid, yet AGAINST subsidized healthcare for their OWN FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 REPUKES = LOVE ISRAEL MORE THAN AMERICA! REPUBES = SUPPORT ISRAEL'S "RIGHT TO EXIST" BEFORE THE HEALTH OF FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! REPUBES = TRAITORS AND SHOULD ALL EAT A BULLET! REPUBES No clue how the US dollar works or why we give it away to other countries and how that raises the value of the dollar not lowers it? You would acutely devalue the dollar if you cut all foreign aid, it would quickly collapse in on itself. So if you gave all the foreign aid away to Americans rather than other countries it would be DEVALUE the dollar instantly. Great “free” education you got form the government already congrats! That education would be just as good as your free government healthcare for everyone. That is one of the absolute stupidest excuses to waste billions upon billions of our tax dollars on an outside country that I've ever heard of. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36041894 Ireland 03/17/2013 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what's wrong? Will free healthcare take away from the military budget? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 Will it take away from the billions we give Israel every year? ^^THIS^^ I'd much rather see my tax dollars used to provide free or very low cost health care to the American people than for it to keep lining the pockets of defense contractors, weapons dealers and other merchants of death. Of course the way our medical system is currently set up is completely fucked - that would have to change too. Pay health care professionals a normal salary and have them focus on getting good results, not pay per 'procedure' or kickbacks for prescribing masses of meds to mask symptoms for as long as possible without curing the disease or killing the mark, er patient. And BigPharma & BigAg can go fuck themselves. The majority of their 'products' are what is making people so unhealthy. Me too!.. but since they are fucking leech illegals and not AMERICANS they can kiss my ass. Not only that but show me one thing "government" has done that it has not fucked up! go ahead Einstein do it! |
Chrit User ID: 27088294 United States 03/17/2013 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REPUKES = In favor of SUPPLYING ISRAEL with BILLIONS in military and general aid, yet AGAINST subsidized healthcare for their OWN FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 REPUKES = LOVE ISRAEL MORE THAN AMERICA! REPUBES = SUPPORT ISRAEL'S "RIGHT TO EXIST" BEFORE THE HEALTH OF FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! REPUBES = TRAITORS AND SHOULD ALL EAT A BULLET! REPUBES No clue how the US dollar works or why we give it away to other countries and how that raises the value of the dollar not lowers it? You would acutely devalue the dollar if you cut all foreign aid, it would quickly collapse in on itself. So if you gave all the foreign aid away to Americans rather than other countries it would be DEVALUE the dollar instantly. Great “free” education you got form the government already congrats! That education would be just as good as your free government healthcare for everyone. That is one of the absolute stupidest excuses to waste billions upon billions of our tax dollars on an outside country that I've ever heard of. Fiat money, it is only worth something when people trade it, the more it is traded the more it is worth. When was the last time you used a Ruble to buy something in the US? When you have entire countries using US dollars for all trade purchases you acutely create more value then you give away with foreign aid, much more in fact. Don’t give it away and the dollar collapses period, there are no billions otherwise. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1184364 United States 03/17/2013 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America gives BILLIONS TO ISRAEL every fucking year, yet REPUKES are a-okay with that! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 REPUKES CARE MORE FOR ISRAEL THAN PEOPLE IN AMERICA! REPUKES = TRAITORS AND SHOULD ALL EAT A BULLET! REPUKES the typical libtard logic at work ^^ which party are 98.4% of all Isreal dual-citizen politicians a member of? Oh yeah, the Communist Party USA...errr the DNC Braindead fool |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1184364 United States 03/17/2013 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, Mexico has had a national health care system for years now. It covers everybody. Maybe illegals could go there. I'm sure Mexico wouldn't deny medical care to any human being, documented or not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36261385 All foreigners get free health care in Canada too. That includes Americans who sneak in here to get it. Does Canada provide a free coffin and grave site also? There's a reason wealthy Canadian come to the U.S. For serious health problems Also, you just stated how much money is taken from your paycheck to cover "free" healthcare. It's not "free". It should be called leachcare |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1184364 United States 03/17/2013 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REPUKES = In favor of SUPPLYING ISRAEL with BILLIONS in military and general aid, yet AGAINST subsidized healthcare for their OWN FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 REPUKES = LOVE ISRAEL MORE THAN AMERICA! REPUBES = SUPPORT ISRAEL'S "RIGHT TO EXIST" BEFORE THE HEALTH OF FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! REPUBES = TRAITORS AND SHOULD ALL EAT A BULLET! REPUBES No clue how the US dollar works or why we give it away to other countries and how that raises the value of the dollar not lowers it? You would acutely devalue the dollar if you cut all foreign aid, it would quickly collapse in on itself. So if you gave all the foreign aid away to Americans rather than other countries it would be DEVALUE the dollar instantly. Great “free” education you got form the government already congrats! That education would be just as good as your free government healthcare for everyone. That is one of the absolute stupidest excuses to waste billions upon billions of our tax dollars on an outside country that I've ever heard of. No it's not Chrit's explanation is spot on from an economic standpoint Explain the dynamics of the world deserve currency in relation to distribution... We're eagerly awaiting your detailed analysis Einstein |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1184364 United States 03/17/2013 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REPUKES = In favor of SUPPLYING ISRAEL with BILLIONS in military and general aid, yet AGAINST subsidized healthcare for their OWN FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 REPUKES = LOVE ISRAEL MORE THAN AMERICA! REPUBES = SUPPORT ISRAEL'S "RIGHT TO EXIST" BEFORE THE HEALTH OF FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! REPUBES = TRAITORS AND SHOULD ALL EAT A BULLET! REPUBES Isn't it interesting that they NEVER respond when you bring this up? D Already answered, but repeating so the shit for brains libtards might be able to pick a word or two out for comprehension: 1. 98.4% of all Israeli dual-citizen politicians are DEMOCRAT 2. Illegals ARE NOT our "countrymen" Is it easy being that ignorant, or do libtards work diligently at it day and night? |
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Tired of this issue User ID: 25863183 United States 03/17/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The entitlement society we have created is going out of control. It's pretty sad when American citizens are going without and there are illegal interlopers here who think they are entitled to and outright demand services of a government that they are defrauding by being here ILLEGALLY. What makes them entitled to services that Actual Americans can't get at this point in many cases. I am not anti immigration at all. I believe the system needs a drastic overhaul. Obviously people want to come here and that is a good thing but we need to find a way to make it legal for more folks to come here. Illegal immigrants are a security threats, a drain on the healthcare system already and this shit needs to stop. Tell me Mr/Mrs/Miss Illegal Immigrant, when you go to the emergency room for healthcare, are you denied medical attention? Nope they can't deny you. Now an american citizen has to give information like let's say a social security number or photo id and is expected to (i know this may be shocking to some) pay for said medical care. When you have an illegal immigrant how is the medical facility suppose to track and eventually receive payment on someone who has no records, no way to make them pay. Guess who pays for that, the people who live here legally and pay taxes. Guess what I am one of those people and I dont have healthcare for myself, if I go for medical treatment I get a bill that can be traced to my identity and will haunt me if I dont. What happens to an illegal if they dont pay-nothing. Dont sit here and tell me you are entitled to benefits I dont have as an actual citizen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7554855 Canada 03/17/2013 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because I'm here illegally doesn't mean I don't deserve free stuff! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35400680 I love the "new" terminology...."undocumented" as opposed to that nasty word "illegal". Love how they soften the blow to Americans while they inform you that will give free healthcare to these illegals while you go without. Always watch how they use words in their propaganda. |
ehecatl User ID: 36305764 Mexico 03/17/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, Mexico has had a national health care system for years now. It covers everybody. Maybe illegals could go there. I'm sure Mexico wouldn't deny medical care to any human being, documented or not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36261385 All foreigners get free health care in Canada too. That includes Americans who sneak in here to get it. In Mexico all non-citizens will be provided rather basic emergency care in the public system, but they will be charged for that, although the total bill will be just a small fraction of what it would be in the US or Canada. Better for the non-citizen to pay out of pocket if they can, at 1/10th the cost on the average, although one may choose private medical care on par with US or Canadian standards, and still pay about 1/10th the cost. The cavet is that each person needs to be responsible for their own health care decisions, because it is difficult to sue a doctor, unless you can prove outright malice. I know these things because I deal with dozens of visiting paragliding pilots from the US, Canada, and Europe every year, and there are often accidents, sometimes serious, and I am usually the one responsible for EMT and accompanying them to the hospital. I can air-lift people by helicopter to the best hospital in Mexico City if needed. I am familiar with all the ins and outs of foreigners dealing with the medical system here. I also have a number of visitors who come here for dental implants, at 1/10th US costs. |
Garman906 User ID: 36048486 United States 03/17/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what's wrong? Will free healthcare take away from the military budget? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 Will it take away from the billions we give Israel every year? Check this out US National Debt Clock [link to www.usdebtclock.org] You probably don't have the mental acuity to figure out what all that means, so I'll put it as simply as I can. Your car runs on gasoline. When your car runs out of gas, it stops. The United States "government" runs on money. When the "government" finally runs out of money, it will stop too. One of these mornings you're going to wake up to discover that the United States "government" no longer exists. What a glorioous day that will be. Just wish I was younger so that I could enjoy my new found freedoms. |
MartianPrincess User ID: 1302027 United States 03/17/2013 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because I'm here illegally doesn't mean I don't deserve free stuff! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35400680 Oh wow, um no, fuck that. I'm against discrimination but also against illegal immigration- this is fucking ridiculous and it sets a terrible precedent. Almost seems like these people are being used for TPTB's agenda; works like a charm - Americans will scream bloody murder and find more reasons to hate us even more; meanwhile, this act will create even more dependency on gov. benefits within that demographic. Sigh. Occam's Razor, morans! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23657849 United States 03/17/2013 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America gives BILLIONS TO ISRAEL every fucking year, yet REPUKES are a-okay with that! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 REPUKES CARE MORE FOR ISRAEL THAN PEOPLE IN AMERICA! REPUKES = TRAITORS AND SHOULD ALL EAT A BULLET! REPUKES the typical libtard logic at work ^^ which party are 98.4% of all Isreal dual-citizen politicians a member of? Oh yeah, the Communist Party USA...errr the DNC Braindead fool Congress is majority republican, dufus. And the republicans are also Israel-firsters and Israel-apologists. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23657849 United States 03/17/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REPUKES = In favor of SUPPLYING ISRAEL with BILLIONS in military and general aid, yet AGAINST subsidized healthcare for their OWN FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 REPUKES = LOVE ISRAEL MORE THAN AMERICA! REPUBES = SUPPORT ISRAEL'S "RIGHT TO EXIST" BEFORE THE HEALTH OF FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! REPUBES = TRAITORS AND SHOULD ALL EAT A BULLET! REPUBES Isn't it interesting that they NEVER respond when you bring this up? D Already answered, but repeating so the shit for brains libtards might be able to pick a word or two out for comprehension: 1. 98.4% of all Israeli dual-citizen politicians are DEMOCRAT 2. Illegals ARE NOT our "countrymen" Is it easy being that ignorant, or do libtards work diligently at it day and night? Dude, you talk like an inbred. Read my above post. |
ehecatl User ID: 36305764 Mexico 03/17/2013 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To come to Mexico it is super easy to get a visa, but be sure to get one, even if they don't ask of it, because those who are here illegally can be subject to many years in Mexican prison. The US does not dare crack down like this, because an illegal in the US usually lives in some type of fear, and that makes them sort of a slave and compromises them to some extent. Business owners and TPTB love these sorts of relations, and closing the borders or giving them rights would screw all that up. That is why since time immemorial, the US politicians speak tough of closing the border one week, and the very next week the open a gaping hole a roadmap and an open invitation for those who wish to pass illegally. Last Edited by ehecatl on 03/17/2013 10:43 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23657849 United States 03/17/2013 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REPUKES = In favor of SUPPLYING ISRAEL with BILLIONS in military and general aid, yet AGAINST subsidized healthcare for their OWN FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32582013 REPUKES = LOVE ISRAEL MORE THAN AMERICA! REPUBES = SUPPORT ISRAEL'S "RIGHT TO EXIST" BEFORE THE HEALTH OF FELLOW COUNTRYMEN! REPUBES = TRAITORS AND SHOULD ALL EAT A BULLET! REPUBES No clue how the US dollar works or why we give it away to other countries and how that raises the value of the dollar not lowers it? You would acutely devalue the dollar if you cut all foreign aid, it would quickly collapse in on itself. So if you gave all the foreign aid away to Americans rather than other countries it would be DEVALUE the dollar instantly. Great “free” education you got form the government already congrats! That education would be just as good as your free government healthcare for everyone. That is one of the absolute stupidest excuses to waste billions upon billions of our tax dollars on an outside country that I've ever heard of. No it's not Chrit's explanation is spot on from an economic standpoint Explain the dynamics of the world deserve currency in relation to distribution... We're eagerly awaiting your detailed analysis Einstein My detailed analysis? End foreign aid to Israel first. It's that simple. Now there's an Israel-firster analysis for you! |
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davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 03/17/2013 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because I'm here illegally doesn't mean I don't deserve free stuff! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35400680 someone needs to tell these people that OUR country doesn't exist. they have a country south of here and if they don't like it there then they should work to change it there not here. I am so sick of this one world shit... |