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Saint Patrick, a Dacian from Banna?

 
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March 17th St Patrick's Day St Patrick was an evangelist and died about 461AD. In his book Confessions, St Patrick said he came from Bannaventarbernia and his father worked on the wall.
Banna is Birdoswald (near Brampton on Hadrians Wall). We know this because a Roman carved stone was dug up in the area with the word Banna on it.
The stone is in Lanercost Priory, near Brampton.
Vent means loophole in embattled wall, allowing passage out of,
outlet to, going to. There is such a vent (where a stream runs
through the wall) between Birdoswald and Irthington, but also the meaning "going to" is relevant. Arbeia was a prominent Roman site overlooking and protecting the Tyne Estuary and a prominent military supply base for Wall. The pay chests would be delivered to Arebeia and it was the lifeline to the rest of the Wall.
St Patrick would describe his homeplace as Banna (Birdoswald) Vent (going to) Arbeia (by Tynemouth). Roman fortifications extended to Maryport which is exactly opposite to where St Patrick was taken captive to, on Mount Slemish, Ireland.
Info supplied by M. S. Quinn, Frizington.
[link to bound-together.org.uk]

... since his father was both a cleric and a Roman official in Britain, maybe scholars who think the future saint was born near the Birdoswald section of Hadrian's Wall are right.
[link to www.awesomestories.com]

Birdoswald has the best preserved defences of any of the 16 major forts which supported Hadrian's frontier system. Known to the Romans as 'Banna', from the early 3rd century its garrison was a thousand-strong infantry unit originating in Dacia (modern Romania). Three main gates of their fortress are still traceable, along with perimeter walls, angle towers, granaries and an unusual drill hall.
[link to www.britevents.com]
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The Dateable Latin Inscriptions from Birdoswald
RIB Date Description
1910 AD198-209 B.I. of emperor Septimius Severus and his son Caracalla
1909 AD205-208 B.I. of emperor Septimius Severus and his sons Caracalla and Geta by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum and Cohors I Thracum
1911 AD212-217 altar to emperor Caracalla
1892 AD212-222? altar to I O M by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum Antoniniana
1914 c.AD219 B.I. of governor Modius Julius by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum
1896 AD235-238 altar to I O M D by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum during Maximian's reign
1929a AD235-238 altar to I O M D by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum during Maximian's reign
1875 AD237 altar to I O M by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum during the consulship of Perpetuus
1893 AD238-244 altar to I O M by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum Gordiana
1883 AD260-268 altar to I O M by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum Postumiana
1886 AD260-268 altar to I O M by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum Postumiana
1885 AD271-274 altar to Cocidius and I O M by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum Tetricianorum
1929b AD276-282 altar to I O M by Cohors I Aelia Dacorum Probiana
[link to www.roman-britain.org]
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During his evangelising journey back to Ireland from his parent's home at Birdoswald, he is understood to have carried with him an ash wood walking stick or staff.
[link to heraldry.celticradio.net]
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Beautiful History. I would love to see a movie about this time period, I love period pieces. Do you know of any that may cover this period? Or even a good book?

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Beautiful History. I would love to see a movie about this time period, I love period pieces. Do you know of any that may cover this period? Or even a good book?

I pinned this for you!!

:pinned:
 Quoting: Isis One

Thanks!
Tale a look at this site, where you can see some revealing pictures and info: [link to www.angelfire.com]
The Dacian?Sarmatian knights usedf the draco standard and were wearing Sarmatian Lamella armor. These are on Trajan's Column, on the Arch of Galerius (311AD), on a Roman funeral stele from Chester and on the Bayeux Tapestry, commemorating the Battle of Hastings (October 14, 1066), where the draco standard is used in the scene depicting Harold's death by an arrow.
The helmet of the horseman from the Chester stele has the same nose protection like the helmets used by the Saxons in the battle of Hastings.
The above evidence indicates the Sarmatian Cavalry was latter used by the Romans in England, where the Saxons
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Beautiful History. I would love to see a movie about this time period, I love period pieces. Do you know of any that may cover this period? Or even a good book?

I pinned this for you!!

:pinned:


Edit: hmmmmm, they took the karma points but I don't see it pinned, maybe too many pins right now, might pop up later??
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See also:
Dacian Draco [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Deva, Romania [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Deva, Britain [link to www.roman-britain.org]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I actually find the First St Patrick a more interesting chap..

Paladius a Deacon of Auxere, ex Pelagian monk was sent to Ireland as the first bishop of Ireland and was for a long while mistaken for being St Patrick, hence him being known as the first St Patrick.

What is interesting is his link to St Germanus of Auxere, and the other deacon of Auxere who where sent to Britain to eradicate the Pelagian version of Christianity that was embedded in the British leadership.

Paladius as an ex Pelagian monk was sent to Ireland to want of the exiled British Christian leadership that had opposed Rome.

From this point Celtic Christianity can be seen to rise.. and I can't help but wonder why this first Bishop of Ireland is lost in the mists of time...

Still his exploits and the wider exploits of St Germanus, Votigern etc grab my attention more than St Patrick.. still, wishing those who celebrate today a fun day..
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I actually find the First St Patrick a more interesting chap..

Paladius a Deacon of Auxere, ex Pelagian monk was sent to Ireland as the first bishop of Ireland and was for a long while mistaken for being St Patrick, hence him being known as the first St Patrick.

What is interesting is his link to St Germanus of Auxere, and the other deacon of Auxere who where sent to Britain to eradicate the Pelagian version of Christianity that was embedded in the British leadership.

Paladius as an ex Pelagian monk was sent to Ireland to want of the exiled British Christian leadership that had opposed Rome.

From this point Celtic Christianity can be seen to rise.. and I can't help but wonder why this first Bishop of Ireland is lost in the mists of time...

Still his exploits and the wider exploits of St Germanus, Votigern etc grab my attention more than St Patrick.. still, wishing those who celebrate today a fun day..
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Paladius seems akin to palladium ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] and Pelagius to Pelasgians ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] Strange names for British people anyway...
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some say the Nobody is Romanian too...

but that's unconfirmed...
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some say the Nobody is Romanian too...

but that's unconfirmed...
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Who says that?
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Possible. But officers aren't always drawn from the same population as the troops.
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Damn..time to get get some fuckin glasses

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some say the Nobody is Romanian too...

but that's unconfirmed...
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Who says that?
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The connection to the Slavic is very obvious...



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March 17th St Patrick's Day St Patrick was an evangelist and died about 461AD. In his book Confessions, St Patrick said he came from Bannaventarbernia and his father worked on the wall.
Banna is Birdoswald (near Brampton on Hadrians Wall). We know this because a Roman carved stone was dug up in the area with the word Banna on it.
The stone is in Lanercost Priory, near Brampton.
Vent means loophole in embattled wall, allowing passage out of,
outlet to, going to. There is such a vent (where a stream runs
through the wall) between Birdoswald and Irthington, but also the meaning "going to" is relevant. Arbeia was a prominent Roman site overlooking and protecting the Tyne Estuary and a prominent military supply base for Wall. The pay chests would be delivered to Arebeia and it was the lifeline to the rest of the Wall.
St Patrick would describe his homeplace as Banna (Birdoswald) Vent (going to) Arbeia (by Tynemouth). Roman fortifications extended to Maryport which is exactly opposite to where St Patrick was taken captive to, on Mount Slemish, Ireland.
Info supplied by M. S. Quinn, Frizington.
[link to bound-together.org.uk]

... since his father was both a cleric and a Roman official in Britain, maybe scholars who think the future saint was born near the Birdoswald section of Hadrian's Wall are right.
[link to www.awesomestories.com]

Birdoswald has the best preserved defences of any of the 16 major forts which supported Hadrian's frontier system. Known to the Romans as 'Banna', from the early 3rd century its garrison was a thousand-strong infantry unit originating in Dacia (modern Romania). Three main gates of their fortress are still traceable, along with perimeter walls, angle towers, granaries and an unusual drill hall.
[link to www.britevents.com]
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St Patrick was just an agent for the Roman Empire because the Romans could not invade Ireland so they sent In an agent to erode Ireland from within. Roman Catholicism is state sponsored religion. It has nothing to do with Jesus. The council of nicea eliminated all the prevalent and all revealing books from the bible. Such books like Enoch and jubilees which spoke of annunaki and fallen angels mating with the daughters of man and flying chariots, etc
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March 17th St Patrick's Day St Patrick was an evangelist and died about 461AD. In his book Confessions, St Patrick said he came from Bannaventarbernia and his father worked on the wall.
Banna is Birdoswald (near Brampton on Hadrians Wall). We know this because a Roman carved stone was dug up in the area with the word Banna on it.
The stone is in Lanercost Priory, near Brampton.
Vent means loophole in embattled wall, allowing passage out of,
outlet to, going to. There is such a vent (where a stream runs
through the wall) between Birdoswald and Irthington, but also the meaning "going to" is relevant. Arbeia was a prominent Roman site overlooking and protecting the Tyne Estuary and a prominent military supply base for Wall. The pay chests would be delivered to Arebeia and it was the lifeline to the rest of the Wall.
St Patrick would describe his homeplace as Banna (Birdoswald) Vent (going to) Arbeia (by Tynemouth). Roman fortifications extended to Maryport which is exactly opposite to where St Patrick was taken captive to, on Mount Slemish, Ireland.
Info supplied by M. S. Quinn, Frizington.
[link to bound-together.org.uk]

... since his father was both a cleric and a Roman official in Britain, maybe scholars who think the future saint was born near the Birdoswald section of Hadrian's Wall are right.
[link to www.awesomestories.com]

Birdoswald has the best preserved defences of any of the 16 major forts which supported Hadrian's frontier system. Known to the Romans as 'Banna', from the early 3rd century its garrison was a thousand-strong infantry unit originating in Dacia (modern Romania). Three main gates of their fortress are still traceable, along with perimeter walls, angle towers, granaries and an unusual drill hall.
[link to www.britevents.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36359502


North Umbri = Northrumbians = Umbri/Italy = Greeks/Phoenicians/Dacians/Picts etc.

Saint Patrick = Sanctus Mauricius O'Baedan = Saint Baedan MacCoirill, King of Ulster =

The following inscription to Beda was found in the Vercoviciivm fort on Hadrian's Wall, Housesteads, Northumberland: DEO MARTI THINCSO ET DVABVS ALAISAGIS BEDE ET FIMMILENE ET N AVG GERM CIVES TVIHANTI VSLM (To the god Mars Thincsus and the two Alaisagae, Beda and Fimmilena, and the divine spirit of the emperor, the German tribesmen from Tuihantis willingly and deservedly fulfill their vow).

A.D. 501. This year Porta and his two sons, Beda and Mela, came into Britain, with two ships, at a place called Portsmouth. They soon landed, and slew on the spot a young Briton of very high rank.

[link to avalon.law.yale.edu]

589: Beda becomes king (Son of Porta's son Beda. hence, Porta's grandon and Beda's son) (Bede was born in 675 or so he may be the grandon of King Beda and son of Biscop and Biscops dad was King Beda)

[link to www.woofkitty.co.uk]

These are the descendants of the Priests of Amon Ra who had anointed Alexander the Great the Son of God at the temple of Umm Beda (temple of Jupiter Ammon) and put a magician in charge of it, Urn Beda or Mabuda.

SAINT PATRICK SAID; "It was but a short time they had been there till they saw towards them a gentle maid of pubescent age and with flowing yellow hair. Among them she sat down upon the sodded mound, and: 'who art thou, girl?' asked Patrick. 'I am Ediin Fair-hair, daughter of Baedan, king of Dalaradia.' 'And wherefore art thou come?' pursued the Saint.

'In order to dedicate to thee our kin both quick and dead;
for of my seed [i.e., race] lives none now but myself and my own brother.'

(Numbers 18:19) "All the heave offerings of the holy things, which the children of Israel offer unto the LORD, have I given thee, and thy sons and thy daughters with thee, by a statute for ever: it is a covenant of salt for ever before the LORD unto thee and to thy seed with thee."

TRIBE OF LEVI - (Leviticus 2:13) "And every oblation of thy meat offering shalt thou season with salt; neither shalt thou suffer the salt of the covenant of thy God to be lacking from thy meat offering: with all thine offerings thou shalt offer salt."

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March 17th St Patrick's Day St Patrick was an evangelist and died about 461AD. In his book Confessions, St Patrick said he came from Bannaventarbernia and his father worked on the wall.
Banna is Birdoswald (near Brampton on Hadrians Wall). We know this because a Roman carved stone was dug up in the area with the word Banna on it.
The stone is in Lanercost Priory, near Brampton.
Vent means loophole in embattled wall, allowing passage out of,
outlet to, going to. There is such a vent (where a stream runs
through the wall) between Birdoswald and Irthington, but also the meaning "going to" is relevant. Arbeia was a prominent Roman site overlooking and protecting the Tyne Estuary and a prominent military supply base for Wall. The pay chests would be delivered to Arebeia and it was the lifeline to the rest of the Wall.
St Patrick would describe his homeplace as Banna (Birdoswald) Vent (going to) Arbeia (by Tynemouth). Roman fortifications extended to Maryport which is exactly opposite to where St Patrick was taken captive to, on Mount Slemish, Ireland.
Info supplied by M. S. Quinn, Frizington.
[link to bound-together.org.uk]

... since his father was both a cleric and a Roman official in Britain, maybe scholars who think the future saint was born near the Birdoswald section of Hadrian's Wall are right.
[link to www.awesomestories.com]

Birdoswald has the best preserved defences of any of the 16 major forts which supported Hadrian's frontier system. Known to the Romans as 'Banna', from the early 3rd century its garrison was a thousand-strong infantry unit originating in Dacia (modern Romania). Three main gates of their fortress are still traceable, along with perimeter walls, angle towers, granaries and an unusual drill hall.
[link to www.britevents.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36359502



St Patrick was just an agent for the Roman Empire because the Romans could not invade Ireland so they sent In an agent to erode Ireland from within. Roman Catholicism is state sponsored religion. It has nothing to do with Jesus. The council of nicea eliminated all the prevalent and all revealing books from the bible. Such books like Enoch and jubilees which spoke of annunaki and fallen angels mating with the daughters of man and flying chariots, etc
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This.
Pelagius was a great thinker too.
And a real Celt: you alone are responsible for your destiny, not some child groping money maggot in a dress speaking for a mythicalSky Daddy.
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