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what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor?

 
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
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Then no doubt he will be assassinated.

Pulling the "poor" out of poverty is not good for the "business of life", socially, spiritually or economically for those behind the curtain.
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Yeah...and what if there are unicorns and fairies attempting to save humanity from their own stupidity? Seems like after looking at your avatar, this is the mentality that you come from.

Just keep leaving reality in the dust with wishful thinking...you'll do so well for yourself in the future.
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Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor?
1. He would be assassinated before the Cardinals/Iluminati/Jesuits/shadow-group X allowed him to liquidate the wealth of the Vatican (rumored to be rivaled by only that of the Queen of England and the Rothschild Empire.)


2. I would point you to the Gospel reading for today:

John 12:1-8


(Mary anoints Jesus for his burial)

Six days before the Passover Jesus came to Bethany, the home of Lazarus, whom he had raised from the dead. There they gave a dinner for him. Martha served, and Lazarus was one of those at the table with him. Mary took a pound of costly perfume made of pure nard, anointed Jesus' feet, and wiped them with her hair. The house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. But Judas Iscariot, one of his disciples (the one who was about to betray him), said, "Why was this perfume not sold for three hundred denarii and the money given to the poor?" (He said this not because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief; he kept the common purse and used to steal what was put into it.) Jesus said, "Leave her alone. She bought it so that she might keep it for the day of my burial. You always have the poor with you, but you do not always have me."
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
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I would have been inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt had it not been for one particular detail: He is a JESUIT!

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What if... The Vatican has no money. What if.... They lost their treasure. What if.....
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i am absolutely no bibletard, don´t like relgious stuff at all, not naive and dreaming of unicorns and well aware that he is a jesuit.

but maybe, just maybe, there is a slight chance he´s "the good guy" (of course, as long as someone who is a church´s man can be any good) and wants to make a change.
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
 Quoting: phoenixe


and soon to be labeled "communist!"
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The poor you have with you always, but not the Son of Man.
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
 Quoting: phoenixe


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i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
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yes, you're right. just like pope albino luciani (33 days)
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What if... The Vatican has no money. What if.... They lost their treasure. What if.....
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I was wondering the same. Global economic collapse would include the Vatican, wouldn't it?
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why would a sinister organization appoint a 'good guy' to the helm?

hmm

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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
 Quoting: phoenixe


I sincerely hope that he is.

But it doesn't make any difference.

The Roman church needs to repent of its extermination of the Albigensians for teaching precisely the same Doctrine that Jesus taught: that the Doctrine of "resurrection" is a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

Until that happens, this civilization's feet are very firmly set upon the road that leads to the horrors of the "time of trouble" Prophesied in Chapter 12, verse 1 of the Book of Daniel.

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i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
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yes, you're right. just like pope albino luciani (33 days)
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i was thinking about papa luciani while writing this.. and as well about piusXI ..
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There are power struggles in the Vatican. I know from a person working in the Vatican. She is actually quite high up.

The zionist banksters have a strong grip over the finances, a fact that upsets quite a few.

Some popes have had a sincere desire to make things better, to deal with the corruption, but the evil forces are strong.

Francis background and "aura" actually makes me a bit hopeful!
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beware of people who hand out free money.

normally it is not free and just a ploy
to screw you in the @$$.

this is exactly the first thing
the Rothschilds did in Iraq
when the US invaded.

pallets upon pallets of US dollars
flew into Iraq on C-130's so
they could buy friends.

beware of strangers who hand out
free cash

there is no free anything

there is always a catch
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Yep saw an article on TV last night about how this new Pope is about to shake things up in the Vatican. It seems there lavish lifestyle is not befitting an organisation that helps the poor. He has already objected to wearing the Red cape.banana2
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Yeah...and what if there are unicorns and fairies attempting to save humanity from their own stupidity? Seems like after looking at your avatar, this is the mentality that you come from.

Just keep leaving reality in the dust with wishful thinking...you'll do so well for yourself in the future.
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OP, how much are we talking about? 4 T ? Or it is only what in the Bank, the lands etc come extra?

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Well...in that case he won't be Pope for long. Or he won't live long.

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"Al Jazeera's Lucia Newman, reporting from the Argentine capital of Buenos Aires, said that Francis revealed what he would have done if elected as pope, in an interview with an Argentinian journalist, shortly before he left to the Vatican. 

"One of the things he said he would have done is to eradicate the corruption from the 'guilded palaces' of the Vatican. He also said that the Vatican Bank needs to be cleaned up and made transparent immediately, and that 'everyone knew' who the corrupt cardinals were in the Vatican," Newman said. 

"So he clearly plans to do some serious housecleaning, now that he is in charge," she added.

Projecting an image as a simple man of the people, the pope chose to name himself after St Francis of Assisi, the 13th-century saint who shunned the riches of his family to devote himself to God and the poor.

The Vatican revealed that, for the ride back to the conclave lodgings after Wednesday's election, Francis shunned the papal limousine with the "Vatican City State One" number plates, opting instead to board a minibus with the cardinals.

It was in keeping with his image as a man who as archbishop of Buenos Aires chose to live in a modest apartment rather than the official residence and took buses to work."

[link to www.aljazeera.com]

He could very well end up murdered by the banksters and illuminati.
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
 Quoting: phoenixe


He is a Jesuit and under the authority of Adolfo Nicholas Superior General...I honestly doubt he would have a change of heart. Jesuits are trained to have no freewill and sear their consciences... Idol1pope
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The poor would just piss away the money and be poor again a week later. It's why they're poor in the first place.

Being "poor" has nothing to do with money. Being poor means you can't get off your ass and do something for yourself. There's no excuse except for the children born to poor minded eaters.

No matter how "poor" you are, you can always walk away. You can always plant some food somewhere. You can always TRY! But those who simply give up have a poor mind and the earth doesn't need them and neither does humanity.
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The Vatican is also a state. It needs funds to function.

Seriously I wish non catholics would just mind their own business with all due respect.

The Catholic Church does a lot for the poor via anonymous people and relatively unknown organizations you probably will never hear of.

And God will protect the Pope. You really give too much importance to wordly things. Gods will is ultimately always done.
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The poor would just piss away the money and be poor again a week later. It's why they're poor in the first place.

Being "poor" has nothing to do with money. Being poor means you can't get off your ass and do something for yourself. There's no excuse except for the children born to poor minded eaters.

No matter how "poor" you are, you can always walk away. You can always plant some food somewhere. You can always TRY! But those who simply give up have a poor mind and the earth doesn't need them and neither does humanity.
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this thread is not about the poor and "how to become and stay poor".
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"Al Jazeera's Lucia Newman, reporting from the Argentine capital of Buenos Aires, said that Francis revealed what he would have done if elected as pope, in an interview with an Argentinian journalist, shortly before he left to the Vatican. 

"One of the things he said he would have done is to eradicate the corruption from the 'guilded palaces' of the Vatican. He also said that the Vatican Bank needs to be cleaned up and made transparent immediately, and that 'everyone knew' who the corrupt cardinals were in the Vatican," Newman said. 

"So he clearly plans to do some serious housecleaning, now that he is in charge," she added.

Projecting an image as a simple man of the people, the pope chose to name himself after St Francis of Assisi, the 13th-century saint who shunned the riches of his family to devote himself to God and the poor.

The Vatican revealed that, for the ride back to the conclave lodgings after Wednesday's election, Francis shunned the papal limousine with the "Vatican City State One" number plates, opting instead to board a minibus with the cardinals.

It was in keeping with his image as a man who as archbishop of Buenos Aires chose to live in a modest apartment rather than the official residence and took buses to work."

[link to www.aljazeera.com]

He could very well end up murdered by the banksters and illuminati.
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thank you! does not look good for him..
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"One of the things he said he would have done is to eradicate the corruption from the 'guilded palaces' of the Vatican. He also said that the Vatican Bank needs to be cleaned up and made transparent immediately, and that 'everyone knew' who the corrupt cardinals were in the Vatican," Newman said. 

He could very well end up murdered by the banksters and illuminati.
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he's a friggin Jesuit.
his oath demands he lie
to protect the Church.

read the Jesuit oath !!!

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