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what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor?

 
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Then he would doing what Christ did.
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The poor would just piss away the money and be poor again a week later. It's why they're poor in the first place.

Being "poor" has nothing to do with money. Being poor means you can't get off your ass and do something for yourself. There's no excuse except for the children born to poor minded eaters.

No matter how "poor" you are, you can always walk away. You can always plant some food somewhere. You can always TRY! But those who simply give up have a poor mind and the earth doesn't need them and neither does humanity.
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lame
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No one mortal man can make a positive difference in this world.
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No. Unselfishness makes a difference, seen or unobserved. Regardless of scale.
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Then he would doing what Christ did.
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No
he would be doing what Romans
stated Christ did in their
false books.

Give unto Caesar what is Caesars.

after the Roman State merged with
the Roman Church, then we have
Jesus come along and tell them
to give to Rome and give to God.

If a holy man tells you to fund
Roman legions, then he is not a
holy man but a creation of the
Roman elite.
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Then he would doing what Christ did.
 Quoting: M1.618


No
he would be doing what Romans
stated Christ did in their
false books.

Give unto Caesar what is Caesars.

after the Roman State merged with
the Roman Church, then we have
Jesus come along and tell them
to give to Rome and give to God.

If a holy man tells you to fund
Roman legions, then he is not a
holy man but a creation of the
Roman elite.
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Most looking objectively would agree that - Christ had nothing monetary on this earth and was killed partially for encouraging others for doing the same.

What are you talking about?
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03/17/2013 11:43 AM
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There are power struggles in the Vatican. I know from a person working in the Vatican. She is actually quite high up.

The zionist banksters have a strong grip over the finances, a fact that upsets quite a few.

Some popes have had a sincere desire to make things better, to deal with the corruption, but the evil forces are strong.

Francis background and "aura" actually makes me a bit hopeful!
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ThiS^^^^

She?

Works at IOR?
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He is going to rebuild Cyprus
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03/17/2013 11:49 AM
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Most looking objectively would agree that - Christ had nothing monetary on this earth and was killed partially for encouraging others for doing the same.

What are you talking about?
 Quoting: M1.618


the ONLY thing you know about Christ
is what has been propagated by the
Roman Elite and their successors.

when in actuality, the Bible is NOT
historical, it is a Roman Psy-Op
to create slaves to Rome.

I am not saying the man did not exist,
I AM saying what is written about him
in the Roman books is false and
distributed for an agenda. The man
was molded into what Rome wanted
him to be.

In actuality, the icon you know as
Jesus was actually the last Egyptian
Pharaoh Ptolemy King named Caesarion.

Once you see past the illusions they
have created, then you can be free
of their slavery. As long as you keep
your false Roman belief system, you
will always be their slave.
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ice

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03/17/2013 11:50 AM

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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
 Quoting: phoenixe


I like his start

Hope it's real
You need to figure it out !
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Don't know why you single out just this pope.

I do from time to time donate to charitable organizations and I was really impressed by the statistics on one such charity run by the Catholic Church - Catholic Relief Services.

[link to www.bbb.org]

Programs: 95% Fund Raising: 3% Administrative: 2%

In order to meet the standards an organization has to spend at least 65% of its total expenses on program activities (95% for this particular organization) and spend no more than 35% of related contributions on fund raising (3% for this particular organization).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find another charitable organization that spends as high a percentage of their collected donations on the programs they sponsor, and those programs include projects designed to help communities in countries throughout Africa, Asia, Europe and Latin America identify long-term solutions to poverty and build self-sufficiency and humanitarian assistance operations in response to natural and man-made disasters, supplying aid in the form of food, medicines, shelter, and other relief supplies.

So I'd say the Catholic Church has gone above and beyond many other organizations in their efforts to alleviate the suffering that people in this world have to endure.

It doesn't sound to me like they're trying to prey on people in an attempt to get rich like some other 'fake' charitable organizations out there. Sounds to me like they're not only talking the talk but also walking the walk as would be expected of an organization representing God and His Christ here on this earth. But then again, Satan will do whatever he can to discredit those doing God's will.
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Then he would doing what Christ did.
 Quoting: M1.618


No
he would be doing what Romans
stated Christ did in their
false books.

Give unto Caesar what is Caesars.

after the Roman State merged with
the Roman Church, then we have
Jesus come along and tell them
to give to Rome and give to God.

If a holy man tells you to fund
Roman legions, then he is not a
holy man but a creation of the
Roman elite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36357250


No that was a trick question..times havent changed. They were trying to make him state something that would be considered offensive by the Roman Authorities and so get the Roman Authorities to take legal action against him. He replied accordingly.
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i am absolutely no bibletard, don´t like relgious stuff at all, not naive and dreaming of unicorns and well aware that he is a jesuit.

but maybe, just maybe, there is a slight chance he´s "the good guy" (of course, as long as someone who is a church´s man can be any good) and wants to make a change.
 Quoting: phoenixe


Yeah you could be right! Obama was a good guy to and wanted to make change as well :)
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Then he would doing what Christ did.
 Quoting: M1.618


No
he would be doing what Romans
stated Christ did in their
false books.

Give unto Caesar what is Caesars.

after the Roman State merged with
the Roman Church, then we have
Jesus come along and tell them
to give to Rome and give to God.

If a holy man tells you to fund
Roman legions, then he is not a
holy man but a creation of the
Roman elite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36357250


No that was a trick question..times havent changed. They were trying to make him state something that would be considered offensive by the Roman Authorities and so get the Roman Authorities to take legal action against him. He replied accordingly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36311382


Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. 16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are. 17 Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax[a] to Caesar or not?”

18 But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? 19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, 20 and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”

21 “Caesar’s,” they replied.

Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”

22 When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.


They wanted to pass the buck and have Rome do the dirty work of accusing Him.
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03/17/2013 11:59 AM
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I like his start

Hope it's real
 Quoting: Ice


it's not real.
It is an elite Psy-Op
to buy world wide friends.

the church has taken a beating
upon it's reputation with all it's
scandals

a new poop comes along and hands
out free money

they are buying your loyalty
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Most looking objectively would agree that - Christ had nothing monetary on this earth and was killed partially for encouraging others for doing the same.

What are you talking about?
 Quoting: M1.618


the ONLY thing you know about Christ
is what has been propagated by the
Roman Elite and their successors.

when in actuality, the Bible is NOT
historical, it is a Roman Psy-Op
to create slaves to Rome.

I am not saying the man did not exist,
I AM saying what is written about him
in the Roman books is false and
distributed for an agenda. The man
was molded into what Rome wanted
him to be.

In actuality, the icon you know as
Jesus was actually the last Egyptian
Pharaoh Ptolemy King named Caesarion.

Once you see past the illusions they
have created, then you can be free
of their slavery. As long as you keep
your false Roman belief system, you
will always be their slave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36357250


You are absolutely right, this is the only thing I know about Christ.

What are you talking about?
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If he wanted to spend all the Catholic Church's money then he never would have been elected. Use your brain please, that's why God gave you one!
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this thread is a very funny joke...

laugh
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Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. 16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are. 17 Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax[a] to Caesar or not?”

18 But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? 19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, 20 and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”

21 “Caesar’s,” they replied.

Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”

22 When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.

They wanted to pass the buck and have Rome do the dirty work of accusing Him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36311382


Gospel of Matthew was not written by Matthew
the apostle.

Matthew was written in Greek.
Matthew did not speak or write Greek.
ALL of the Apostles were illiterate
and only spoke Aramaic.

Greek was a Roman Aristocrat attribute

Gospel of Matthew was written by
Flavian Josephus in 75 AD after the
sack of the Jerusalem Temple by
Roman Emperor Titus.
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this Pope is being prepared to be "loved" by the whole world, in order to be turned into something like "a new Messiah".


it wouldn't surprise me if the TPTB start a big war somewhere, just to give to this new Pope the role of the "peacemaker" who will "end the terrible war"


everything in this world is stagged.
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To quote Jesus "The poor will always be among you"

And further I would add; jewel encrusted crosses of solid gold don't grow on trees, ya know poop
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OP, if he were, then he would totally be the ANTI-POPE :D

Every other pope have been running the well-known and well-documented Vatican-Mafica money-laundering connection for decades now.

The last Vatican banker who tried to clear that found himself hanged from the Blackfriars Bridge with bricks in his pocket (i.e. 'don't steal from us').

So yeah, if a pope wanted to give the money to the poor, he certainly would be the anti-pope and the first one at that in the whole history of the catholic church :)
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To quote Jesus "The poor will always be among you"
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic


this is the very reason why the
Jesus ideology garnered so much
loyalty.

If the Romans had written about
a rich man saying the same thing,
nobody would have cared.

If JK Rowling had written Harry Potter
as a spoiled rich kid asshole,
would Harry have been such a hit ??

Nope
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a movie was made to that point in the 60s or 70s. Watch "The Shoes of the Fisherman" starring Anthony Quinn.
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Yeah, and I'm Santa Claus. No offense , but he doesn't want to help anyone anymore than the other Popes did.
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title says it already;

what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that;
and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ?

i suppose he won´t live very long ..?
 Quoting: phoenixe


I really feel this pope isnt going to be around to long
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To quote Jesus "The poor will always be among you"
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic


this is the very reason why the
Jesus ideology garnered so much
loyalty.

If the Romans had written about
a rich man saying the same thing,
nobody would have cared.

If JK Rowling had written Harry Potter
as a spoiled rich kid asshole,
would Harry have been such a hit ??

Nope
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spock

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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The poor and uneducated are the easiest to control under the guise of religion.

The antichrist doesn't need freethinkers but sheeps that will do their bidding

A person in Asia will easily kill another for a bag of rice and the belief
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You said pope and good guy in the same sentence tounge