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emerald_glow User ID: 35688965 United States 03/17/2013 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? The poor would just piss away the money and be poor again a week later. It's why they're poor in the first place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32641742 Being "poor" has nothing to do with money. Being poor means you can't get off your ass and do something for yourself. There's no excuse except for the children born to poor minded eaters. No matter how "poor" you are, you can always walk away. You can always plant some food somewhere. You can always TRY! But those who simply give up have a poor mind and the earth doesn't need them and neither does humanity. Emerald_Glow |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36357250 United States 03/17/2013 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? No he would be doing what Romans stated Christ did in their false books. Give unto Caesar what is Caesars. after the Roman State merged with the Roman Church, then we have Jesus come along and tell them to give to Rome and give to God. If a holy man tells you to fund Roman legions, then he is not a holy man but a creation of the Roman elite. |
M1.618 User ID: 35747086 United States 03/17/2013 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? No he would be doing what Romans stated Christ did in their false books. Give unto Caesar what is Caesars. after the Roman State merged with the Roman Church, then we have Jesus come along and tell them to give to Rome and give to God. If a holy man tells you to fund Roman legions, then he is not a holy man but a creation of the Roman elite. Most looking objectively would agree that - Christ had nothing monetary on this earth and was killed partially for encouraging others for doing the same. What are you talking about? wmMmw |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36325138 United States 03/17/2013 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? There are power struggles in the Vatican. I know from a person working in the Vatican. She is actually quite high up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26491065 The zionist banksters have a strong grip over the finances, a fact that upsets quite a few. Some popes have had a sincere desire to make things better, to deal with the corruption, but the evil forces are strong. Francis background and "aura" actually makes me a bit hopeful! ThiS^^^^ She? Works at IOR? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36357250 United States 03/17/2013 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? Most looking objectively would agree that - Christ had nothing monetary on this earth and was killed partially for encouraging others for doing the same. Quoting: M1.618 What are you talking about? the ONLY thing you know about Christ is what has been propagated by the Roman Elite and their successors. when in actuality, the Bible is NOT historical, it is a Roman Psy-Op to create slaves to Rome. I am not saying the man did not exist, I AM saying what is written about him in the Roman books is false and distributed for an agenda. The man was molded into what Rome wanted him to be. In actuality, the icon you know as Jesus was actually the last Egyptian Pharaoh Ptolemy King named Caesarion. Once you see past the illusions they have created, then you can be free of their slavery. As long as you keep your false Roman belief system, you will always be their slave. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26368049 United States 03/17/2013 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? title says it already; Quoting: phoenixe what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that; and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ? i suppose he won´t live very long ..? I like his start Hope it's real |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2849260 United States 03/17/2013 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? title says it already; Quoting: phoenixe what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that; and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ? i suppose he won´t live very long ..? Don't know why you single out just this pope. I do from time to time donate to charitable organizations and I was really impressed by the statistics on one such charity run by the Catholic Church - Catholic Relief Services. [link to www.bbb.org] Programs: 95% Fund Raising: 3% Administrative: 2% In order to meet the standards an organization has to spend at least 65% of its total expenses on program activities (95% for this particular organization) and spend no more than 35% of related contributions on fund raising (3% for this particular organization). I think you'd be hard pressed to find another charitable organization that spends as high a percentage of their collected donations on the programs they sponsor, and those programs include projects designed to help communities in countries throughout Africa, Asia, Europe and Latin America identify long-term solutions to poverty and build self-sufficiency and humanitarian assistance operations in response to natural and man-made disasters, supplying aid in the form of food, medicines, shelter, and other relief supplies. So I'd say the Catholic Church has gone above and beyond many other organizations in their efforts to alleviate the suffering that people in this world have to endure. It doesn't sound to me like they're trying to prey on people in an attempt to get rich like some other 'fake' charitable organizations out there. Sounds to me like they're not only talking the talk but also walking the walk as would be expected of an organization representing God and His Christ here on this earth. But then again, Satan will do whatever he can to discredit those doing God's will. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36311382 Spain 03/17/2013 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? No he would be doing what Romans stated Christ did in their false books. Give unto Caesar what is Caesars. after the Roman State merged with the Roman Church, then we have Jesus come along and tell them to give to Rome and give to God. If a holy man tells you to fund Roman legions, then he is not a holy man but a creation of the Roman elite. No that was a trick question..times havent changed. They were trying to make him state something that would be considered offensive by the Roman Authorities and so get the Roman Authorities to take legal action against him. He replied accordingly. |
saved User ID: 2663252 United States 03/17/2013 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? i am absolutely no bibletard, don´t like relgious stuff at all, not naive and dreaming of unicorns and well aware that he is a jesuit. Quoting: phoenixe but maybe, just maybe, there is a slight chance he´s "the good guy" (of course, as long as someone who is a church´s man can be any good) and wants to make a change. Yeah you could be right! Obama was a good guy to and wanted to make change as well :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36311382 Spain 03/17/2013 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? No he would be doing what Romans stated Christ did in their false books. Give unto Caesar what is Caesars. after the Roman State merged with the Roman Church, then we have Jesus come along and tell them to give to Rome and give to God. If a holy man tells you to fund Roman legions, then he is not a holy man but a creation of the Roman elite. No that was a trick question..times havent changed. They were trying to make him state something that would be considered offensive by the Roman Authorities and so get the Roman Authorities to take legal action against him. He replied accordingly. Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. 16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are. 17 Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax[a] to Caesar or not?” 18 But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? 19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, 20 and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?” 21 “Caesar’s,” they replied. Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” 22 When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away. They wanted to pass the buck and have Rome do the dirty work of accusing Him. |
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M1.618 User ID: 35747086 United States 03/17/2013 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? Most looking objectively would agree that - Christ had nothing monetary on this earth and was killed partially for encouraging others for doing the same. Quoting: M1.618 What are you talking about? the ONLY thing you know about Christ is what has been propagated by the Roman Elite and their successors. when in actuality, the Bible is NOT historical, it is a Roman Psy-Op to create slaves to Rome. I am not saying the man did not exist, I AM saying what is written about him in the Roman books is false and distributed for an agenda. The man was molded into what Rome wanted him to be. In actuality, the icon you know as Jesus was actually the last Egyptian Pharaoh Ptolemy King named Caesarion. Once you see past the illusions they have created, then you can be free of their slavery. As long as you keep your false Roman belief system, you will always be their slave. You are absolutely right, this is the only thing I know about Christ. What are you talking about? wmMmw |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36357250 United States 03/17/2013 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. 16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are. 17 Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax[a] to Caesar or not?” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36311382 18 But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? 19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, 20 and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?” 21 “Caesar’s,” they replied. Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” 22 When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away. They wanted to pass the buck and have Rome do the dirty work of accusing Him. Gospel of Matthew was not written by Matthew the apostle. Matthew was written in Greek. Matthew did not speak or write Greek. ALL of the Apostles were illiterate and only spoke Aramaic. Greek was a Roman Aristocrat attribute Gospel of Matthew was written by Flavian Josephus in 75 AD after the sack of the Jerusalem Temple by Roman Emperor Titus. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36357370 Brazil 03/17/2013 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? this Pope is being prepared to be "loved" by the whole world, in order to be turned into something like "a new Messiah". it wouldn't surprise me if the TPTB start a big war somewhere, just to give to this new Pope the role of the "peacemaker" who will "end the terrible war" everything in this world is stagged. |
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Pathaka User ID: 19009045 Finland 03/17/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? OP, if he were, then he would totally be the ANTI-POPE :D Every other pope have been running the well-known and well-documented Vatican-Mafica money-laundering connection for decades now. The last Vatican banker who tried to clear that found himself hanged from the Blackfriars Bridge with bricks in his pocket (i.e. 'don't steal from us'). So yeah, if a pope wanted to give the money to the poor, he certainly would be the anti-pope and the first one at that in the whole history of the catholic church :) Pathaka |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36357250 United States 03/17/2013 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? this is the very reason why the Jesus ideology garnered so much loyalty. If the Romans had written about a rich man saying the same thing, nobody would have cared. If JK Rowling had written Harry Potter as a spoiled rich kid asshole, would Harry have been such a hit ?? Nope |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31128946 United States 03/17/2013 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? title says it already; Quoting: phoenixe what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that; and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ? i suppose he won´t live very long ..? Yeah, and I'm Santa Claus. No offense , but he doesn't want to help anyone anymore than the other Popes did. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36094745 United States 03/17/2013 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? title says it already; Quoting: phoenixe what if the new pope is a "good guy", not only pretending to like the poor lifestyle but being honest on that; and wants to spend all the money and wealth the church has (including the vatican bank) to really make a difference and help the poor ? i suppose he won´t live very long ..? I really feel this pope isnt going to be around to long |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 03/17/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? this is the very reason why the Jesus ideology garnered so much loyalty. If the Romans had written about a rich man saying the same thing, nobody would have cared. If JK Rowling had written Harry Potter as a spoiled rich kid asshole, would Harry have been such a hit ?? Nope |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216425 United States 03/17/2013 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what if .. Pope Francis I. is a good guy and wants to spend all church/vatican money to help the poor? The poor and uneducated are the easiest to control under the guise of religion. The antichrist doesn't need freethinkers but sheeps that will do their bidding A person in Asia will easily kill another for a bag of rice and the belief |
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