What is the difference between Luciferianism and Satanism? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/17/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Literal Satanism: Has many variations like Christianity, but most recognize a hierarchy of devils, satan being the highest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20656646 Symbolic Satanism: Atheistic, Worships Satan as a concept of self indulgence and human nature. Not an actual deity Luciferianism: Believes the Christian God is a tyrant, and that lucifer eventually will become god. You are confusing demonology with "Literal Satanism". What is the difference? Demonology is usually a combination of Jewish cabalistic practices with direct reference to king David and involves summoning and controlling demons through rituals, while satanism is atheism with no rituals or demonic power. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36249561 Turkey 03/17/2013 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Literal Satanism: Has many variations like Christianity, but most recognize a hierarchy of devils, satan being the highest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20656646 Symbolic Satanism: Atheistic, Worships Satan as a concept of self indulgence and human nature. Not an actual deity Luciferianism: Believes the Christian God is a tyrant, and that lucifer eventually will become god. You are confusing demonology with "Literal Satanism". What is the difference? Demonology is usually a combination of Jewish cabalistic practices with direct reference to king David and involves summoning and controlling demons through rituals, while satanism is atheism with no rituals or demonic power. Satanism is atheism with no rituals or demonic power???? oh puhlease! really?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28948108 United States 03/17/2013 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108 If you need a magic book to tell you not to kill someone, you are probably someone who shouldn't be in society anyway. Eliminating my competition by any means necessary is the definition of "the fittest" I think you are contaminating the gene pool and need to be eliminated for humanities sake. I am fitter than you.. See how that works mr Adolf Hitler? You sound like a psycho. If the magic book is all that is keeping you from going on a bloody rampage then do us all a favor and kill yourself. For the good of humanity kill yourself. You are obviously one of the least fit ones, perhaps a good serf maybe, but definitely not an intellectual. You might last two weeks in atheist society... if your master found some menial or amusing task you could perform for him. I would like a copy of this "magic book" you are referring too... Were you referring to Peter Rabbit or the Cat in the Hat perhaps? [link to www.amazon.com] There you go, one magic book. It has things a psycho like you should know, but for some reason doesn't. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1622717 United States 03/17/2013 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36180613 I guess one of the things that I'm not understanding is all of the blood, guts, terror, fear, and human and animal sacrifices that are involved. There's a lot of people here that are saying "Lucifer is good... blah blah blah" and he's the light etc., but how can he be good if there's so much bad done in tribute? There is no such thing as a person who worships Lucifer, Satanists are simply atheists. this is bullshit. Luciferians do not worship Lucifer. They look to him as being the giver of wisdom. he is Prometheus, stealing fire (knowledge) from the gods and bestowing it onto man. In the garden, it was the snake who offered man wisdom and knowledge. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36249561 Turkey 03/17/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Demonology is usually a combination of Jewish cabalistic practices with direct reference to king David and involves summoning and controlling demons through rituals, while satanism is atheism with no rituals or demonic power. Satanism is atheism with no rituals or demonic power???? oh puhlease! really?? please, read more... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853586 United States 03/17/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853586 Eliminating my competition by any means necessary is the definition of "the fittest" I think you are contaminating the gene pool and need to be eliminated for humanities sake. I am fitter than you.. See how that works mr Adolf Hitler? You sound like a psycho. If the magic book is all that is keeping you from going on a bloody rampage then do us all a favor and kill yourself. For the good of humanity kill yourself. You are obviously one of the least fit ones, perhaps a good serf maybe, but definitely not an intellectual. You might last two weeks in atheist society... if your master found some menial or amusing task you could perform for him. I would like a copy of this "magic book" you are referring too... Were you referring to Peter Rabbit or the Cat in the Hat perhaps? [link to www.amazon.com] There you go, one magic book. It has things a psycho like you should know, but for some reason doesn't. This one is more appropriate for humanist atheists such as yourself [link to www.amazon.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28948108 United States 03/17/2013 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108 You sound like a psycho. If the magic book is all that is keeping you from going on a bloody rampage then do us all a favor and kill yourself. For the good of humanity kill yourself. You are obviously one of the least fit ones, perhaps a good serf maybe, but definitely not an intellectual. You might last two weeks in atheist society... if your master found some menial or amusing task you could perform for him. I would like a copy of this "magic book" you are referring too... Were you referring to Peter Rabbit or the Cat in the Hat perhaps? [link to www.amazon.com] There you go, one magic book. It has things a psycho like you should know, but for some reason doesn't. This one is more appropriate for humanist atheists such as yourself [link to www.amazon.com] No thanks. That psycho seems much more up your alley. He is just you, minus a magic book. At least in the end he did have the decency to kill himself. You should follow his example. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853586 United States 03/17/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853586 You are obviously one of the least fit ones, perhaps a good serf maybe, but definitely not an intellectual. You might last two weeks in atheist society... if your master found some menial or amusing task you could perform for him. I would like a copy of this "magic book" you are referring too... Were you referring to Peter Rabbit or the Cat in the Hat perhaps? [link to www.amazon.com] There you go, one magic book. It has things a psycho like you should know, but for some reason doesn't. This one is more appropriate for humanist atheists such as yourself [link to www.amazon.com] No thanks. That psycho seems much more up your alley. He is just you, minus a magic book. At least in the end he did have the decency to kill himself. You should follow his example. From the evolutionists point of view, he was right... Maybe someday when your all grown up someone will break out the finger puppets and show you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31448815 United States 03/17/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not quiet, little brain. Atheism is rejection of a belief in god(s). And in general people who gravitate towards it are not driven by their cultural/religious brain washing and tend to think rationally. Something you will likely never be able to do. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/17/2013 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Demonology is usually a combination of Jewish cabalistic practices with direct reference to king David and involves summoning and controlling demons through rituals, while satanism is atheism with no rituals or demonic power. Satanism is atheism with no rituals or demonic power???? oh puhlease! really?? I have studied the satanic Bible, the Christian Bible, demonology, Reiki, astrology, alchemy and European religions extensively and hermetic traditions, related Jewish beliefs and a few of the Hindu customs to a much lesser extent. There are distinct differences between Satanism in theory and practice from the perspectives of mainstream media and Christians and reality. At no point or in any documents within the Church of Satan is there any connection to any demons. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28948108 United States 03/17/2013 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108 [link to www.amazon.com] There you go, one magic book. It has things a psycho like you should know, but for some reason doesn't. This one is more appropriate for humanist atheists such as yourself [link to www.amazon.com] No thanks. That psycho seems much more up your alley. He is just you, minus a magic book. At least in the end he did have the decency to kill himself. You should follow his example. From the evolutionists point of view, he was right... Maybe someday when your all grown up someone will break out the finger puppets and show you. You mean "your twisted view of evolutionists". You on the other hand fairly much insinuated you wouldn't know right from wrong without some sky wizard telling you otherwise. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/17/2013 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They do not believe in a deity. Well they think Satan is a diety. Satanists who follow the doctrine of the Church of Satan do not believe in deities. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31448815 United States 03/17/2013 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They do not believe in a deity. Since it seems hard to understand this defines a Satanist. "Since the Satanist understands that all Gods are fiction, instead of bending a knee in worship to—or seeking friendship or unity with—such mythical entities, he places himself at the center of his own subjective universe as his own highest value" Church of Satan Oh look little brain is trying to redefine dictionary to win an argument. Shocking surprise. Lets clear the air. Satanism (ˈseɪt ə ˌnɪzəm) — n 1. the worship of Satan 2. a form of such worship which includes blasphemous or obscene parodies of Christian prayers, etc 3. a satanic disposition or satanic practices Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition Definition of SATANISM 1 : innate wickedness 2 : obsession with or affinity for evil; specifically : worship of Satan marked by the travesty of Christian rites — sa·tan·ist noun often capitalized -merriam-webster |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/17/2013 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since it seems hard to understand this defines a Satanist. "Since the Satanist understands that all Gods are fiction, instead of bending a knee in worship to—or seeking friendship or unity with—such mythical entities, he places himself at the center of his own subjective universe as his own highest value" Church of Satan Oh look little brain is trying to redefine dictionary to win an argument. Shocking surprise. Lets clear the air. Satanism (ˈseɪt ə ˌnɪzəm) — n 1. the worship of Satan 2. a form of such worship which includes blasphemous or obscene parodies of Christian prayers, etc 3. a satanic disposition or satanic practices Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition Definition of SATANISM 1 : innate wickedness 2 : obsession with or affinity for evil; specifically : worship of Satan marked by the travesty of Christian rites — sa·tan·ist noun often capitalized -merriam-webster "The satanic church was started in the 60's by Anton LaVey, so logic would follow that he would be able to define a satanist better than Oprah or whoever hosts Dateline or 20/20. A satanist doesn't believe in god or satan. A satanist is an atheist that believes people should be responsible for their actions."-Urban Dictionary [link to www.urbandictionary.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853586 United States 03/17/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No thanks. That psycho seems much more up your alley. He is just you, minus a magic book. At least in the end he did have the decency to kill himself. You should follow his example. From the evolutionists point of view, he was right... Maybe someday when your all grown up someone will break out the finger puppets and show you. You mean "your twisted view of evolutionists". You on the other hand fairly much insinuated you wouldn't know right from wrong without some sky wizard telling you otherwise. Right and wrong are what an evolutionist chooses it is... I am sorry you can't see that, but I can't educate you any longer. I have wasted enough time with you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/17/2013 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Since it seems hard to understand this defines a Satanist. "Since the Satanist understands that all Gods are fiction, instead of bending a knee in worship to—or seeking friendship or unity with—such mythical entities, he places himself at the center of his own subjective universe as his own highest value" Church of Satan Oh look little brain is trying to redefine dictionary to win an argument. Shocking surprise. Lets clear the air. Satanism (ˈseɪt ə ˌnɪzəm) — n 1. the worship of Satan 2. a form of such worship which includes blasphemous or obscene parodies of Christian prayers, etc 3. a satanic disposition or satanic practices Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition Definition of SATANISM 1 : innate wickedness 2 : obsession with or affinity for evil; specifically : worship of Satan marked by the travesty of Christian rites — sa·tan·ist noun often capitalized -merriam-webster "The satanic church was started in the 60's by Anton LaVey, so logic would follow that he would be able to define a satanist better than Oprah or whoever hosts Dateline or 20/20. A satanist doesn't believe in god or satan. A satanist is an atheist that believes people should be responsible for their actions."-Urban Dictionary [link to www.urbandictionary.com] Bullshit!! They believe in casting spells! They ain't atheists. Someone who defines themselves as a Satanist would never even attempt to cast a spell as the action requires a belief in a higher or lower power. A Christian will define anyone who casts spells a Satanist even if the person in question is a member of Wicca which is not Satanism and goes against everything a true satanist believes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31448815 United States 03/17/2013 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...snip... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 "The satanic church was started in the 60's by Anton LaVey, so logic would follow that he would be able to define a satanist better than Oprah or whoever hosts Dateline or 20/20. A satanist doesn't believe in god or satan. A satanist is an atheist that believes people should be responsible for their actions."-Urban Dictionary [link to www.urbandictionary.com] Yes, urban dictionary! LOL! Because everything on the internet is true. This is a typical case of guilt by association. Some jackass takes an existing concept, warps it to his own agenda, and presents its as his own. Another little brain comes along, does a skim study of both and declares they are one and the same. Sorry, just because LaVey decided to piggy back on atheism, doesn't mean atheists worship Satan, lack empathy, love, morality or are part of his church. I know how hard it is for you to stretch your mind around what I just said. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28948108 United States 03/17/2013 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108 No thanks. That psycho seems much more up your alley. He is just you, minus a magic book. At least in the end he did have the decency to kill himself. You should follow his example. From the evolutionists point of view, he was right... Maybe someday when your all grown up someone will break out the finger puppets and show you. You mean "your twisted view of evolutionists". You on the other hand fairly much insinuated you wouldn't know right from wrong without some sky wizard telling you otherwise. Right and wrong are what an evolutionist chooses it is... I am sorry you can't see that, but I can't educate you any longer. I have wasted enough time with you. Please continue, you are good for a laugh. When an atheist chooses to do good they do good for its own sake. When a theist does good, they do so because they were told to do so for a reward or fear of punishment. If the only reason you choose not to go on a bloody rampage is because your religion told you to, can't you see how sad that is? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/17/2013 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...snip... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 "The satanic church was started in the 60's by Anton LaVey, so logic would follow that he would be able to define a satanist better than Oprah or whoever hosts Dateline or 20/20. A satanist doesn't believe in god or satan. A satanist is an atheist that believes people should be responsible for their actions."-Urban Dictionary [link to www.urbandictionary.com] Yes, urban dictionary! LOL! Because everything on the internet is true. This is a typical case of guilt by association. Some jackass takes an existing concept, warps it to his own agenda, and presents its as his own. Another little brain comes along, does a skim study of both and declares they are one and the same. Sorry, just because LaVey decided to piggy back on atheism, doesn't mean atheists worship Satan, lack empathy, love, morality or are part of his church. I know how hard it is for you to stretch your mind around what I just said. Oh no I agree not all atheists are Satanists, but all true Satanists (Members of the Church of Satan) are atheists. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/17/2013 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone who defines themselves as a Satanist would never even attempt to cast a spell as the action requires a belief in a higher or lower power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 A Christian will define anyone who casts spells a Satanist even if the person in question is a member of Wicca which is not Satanism and goes against everything a true satanist believes. I read the Satanic Bible. I remember the wishfull thinking to harm another person through rituals. That would be wishful thinking as a Satanist as they accept there is no greater power or supernatural. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/17/2013 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... snip ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Oh no I agree not all atheists are Satanists, but all true Satanists (Members of the Church of Satan) are atheists. Nope sorry, atheists don't believe in supernatural magick. How are you defining Satanists? As a Christian, from the dictionary who's terms are obviously twisted by popular Christian ideology or from the perspective of what an actual Satanist defines themselves as? Would you define a Christian as someone who talks to an imaginary friend derived from the imaginary friend the Jewish people worship? |
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nzreva User ID: 19624091 United States 03/17/2013 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer is a Latin word for the Hebrew word Heylel. Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer (Heylel), son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Satan is an adversary YHWH was satan NAU Numbers 22:22 But God was angry because he was going, and the angel of the LORD (YHWH) took his stand in the way as an adversary (Satan in Hebrew) against him. Now he was riding on his donkey and his two servants were with him. Numbers 22:32 The angel of the YHWH said to him, "Why have you struck your donkey these three times? Behold, I have come out as an adversary (Satan), because your way was contrary to me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/17/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone who defines themselves as a Satanist would never even attempt to cast a spell as the action requires a belief in a higher or lower power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 A Christian will define anyone who casts spells a Satanist even if the person in question is a member of Wicca which is not Satanism and goes against everything a true satanist believes. I read the Satanic Bible. I remember the wishfull thinking to harm another person through rituals. That would be wishful thinking as a Satanist as they accept there is no greater power or supernatural. It is in the Satanic Bible. And it explains why sometimes "magic" works or it doesn't work. In other words: WISHFUL THINKING TO CAUSE HARM. That is the Satanists' mind set. Here is a link to the Satanic Bible please point out the page that contains the information you claim. [link to www.freewebs.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31448815 United States 03/17/2013 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... snip ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Oh no I agree not all atheists are Satanists, but all true Satanists (Members of the Church of Satan) are atheists. Nope sorry, atheists don't believe in supernatural magick. How are you defining Satanists? As a Christian, from the dictionary who's terms are obviously twisted by popular Christian ideology or from the perspective of what an actual Satanist defines themselves as? Would you define a Christian as someone who talks to an imaginary friend derived from the imaginary friend the Jewish people worship? Does it matter? Defining a Christian or a Satanist is like defining a mental retardation. There are multiple variations of each. I define both as irrational thinkers. I already posted the dictionary definition on previous page. |