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can Obama really use Drones to kill US Citizens anytime, anywhere, for any reason. ?

 
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President Obama plans to use military drones in the skies over the United States to assassinate journalists, patriots and critics of his administration. That’s the inescapable conclusion from the emerging pattern of evidence now publicly available — keep reading for details.

Front and center in this pattern of evidence is the 16-page memo that was just released by Obama’s lawyers in the Department of Justice. This memo puts forth a “legal justification” for the President to order the drone assassination of any American citizen he names — anytime, anywhere, for any reason. This new power claimed by the President has no basis in federal law or the Constitution. It is an invented power of absolute tyranny that puts the power to decide who lives and who dies in the hands of one man. This document essentially legalizes the President acting as a serial murderer.

It is claimed that the purpose of this new power to simply name any American the President doesn’t like and immediately have them struck by a Hellfire missile launched from a drone is designed to “protect America.” Yet the 16-page memo that claims to justify all this was intentionally written to include Americans on U.S. soil as potential targets.

As Judge Andrew Napolitano explained just a few days ago on Fox News:

“This 16-page white paper is written so vaguely that the logic from it could… permit the President to kill Americans here in the United States.”

That’s the whole point, actually. If Americans on U.S. soil were to be excluded from such drone assassinations, such language would have been made readily apparent in the memo. But no such language is found in the memo. In fact, the tone of the document quite clearly states that the President has the authority to order drone killings of U.S. citizens anywhere in the world, under any circumstances.


more - [link to www.realnewsreporter.com]

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no, mr. obama is not above the law. and the law forbids to kill people.
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no, mr. obama is not above the law. and the law forbids to kill people.
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That was very funny.
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i bet you did not laugh at all and are only provoking.
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no, mr. obama is not above the law. and the law forbids to kill people.
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no, mr. obama is not above the law. and the law forbids to kill people.
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shitstreamshitstreamshitstreamshitstreamshitstreamshitstreamshitstreamshitstreamshitstreamshitstream
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ok, i understand, you obviously need a bogeyman.
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no, mr. obama is not above the law. and the law forbids to kill people.
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Yeah, but who's going to enforce the law?
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no, mr. obama is not above the law. and the law forbids to kill people.
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Yeah, but who's going to enforce the law?
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no, mr. obama is not above the law. and the law forbids to kill people.
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Yeah, but who's going to enforce the law?
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executive, legislative, judiciary
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Watch and decide for yourself.

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"can Obama really use Drones to kill US Citizens anytime, anywhere, for any reason. ?"

no. Air national guard will be ordered to shoot them down BY THE SHERIFF of each county.

Its over for the corrupt. Everyone now knows that it isn't some crazy conspiracy theory. These sick bastards really want all the American men dead.
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"can Obama really use Drones to kill US Citizens anytime, anywhere, for any reason. ?"

no. Air national guard will be ordered to shoot them down BY THE SHERIFF of each county.

Its over for the corrupt. Everyone now knows that it isn't some crazy conspiracy theory. These sick bastards really want all the American men dead.
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Can't be done by a county sheriff. The Gov. is in charge of each States' National Guard.
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"can Obama really use Drones to kill US Citizens anytime, anywhere, for any reason. ?"

no. Air national guard will be ordered to shoot them down BY THE SHERIFF of each county.

Its over for the corrupt. Everyone now knows that it isn't some crazy conspiracy theory. These sick bastards really want all the American men dead.
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The corrupt British wont have the balls to make this order. If they did, after all the drones were gone, America is going to head over there to seek the rats in the cellar, reclaim our stolen gold, then take BP for their crimes committed against America.

ENOUGH PEOPLE KNOW NOW. Try 100,000,000 pissed off American men on for size...with another 100,000,000 soon to follow.4

shows how broken the mind becomes when surrounded by crime, sin and drugs.
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"can Obama really use Drones to kill US Citizens anytime, anywhere, for any reason. ?"

no. Air national guard will be ordered to shoot them down BY THE SHERIFF of each county.

Its over for the corrupt. Everyone now knows that it isn't some crazy conspiracy theory. These sick bastards really want all the American men dead.
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Can't be done by a county sheriff. The Gov. is in charge of each States' National Guard.
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Wrong. The government is not the government anymore. It is the mafia that hijacked our government.

They passed an illegal batch of laws here in NY over the last 8 years, ALL of which we tossed out. Forced vaccinations, gun bans, wells, farming, fishing and more. THe men realize they are under attack...lol, dont think they are much for 'complying'.

Chain of command goes

People of each county in each state
Sheriff of each country
Mayor of each county
Governor
Government

Notice the government IS AT THE BOTTOM. Heck, representatives aren't even in there because they are REPRESENTATIVES.

Sit back and watch, just wait for the first drone to fly.
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"can Obama really use Drones to kill US Citizens anytime, anywhere, for any reason. ?"

no. Air national guard will be ordered to shoot them down BY THE SHERIFF of each county.

Its over for the corrupt. Everyone now knows that it isn't some crazy conspiracy theory. These sick bastards really want all the American men dead.
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Can't be done by a county sheriff. The Gov. is in charge of each States' National Guard.
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Wrong. The government is not the government anymore. It is the mafia that hijacked our government.

They passed an illegal batch of laws here in NY over the last 8 years, ALL of which we tossed out. Forced vaccinations, gun bans, wells, farming, fishing and more. THe men realize they are under attack...lol, dont think they are much for 'complying'.

Chain of command goes

People of each county in each state
Sheriff of each country
Mayor of each county
Governor
Government

Notice the government IS AT THE BOTTOM. Heck, representatives aren't even in there because they are REPRESENTATIVES.

Sit back and watch, just wait for the first drone to fly.
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Sorry I didn't mean goverment I ment Governor. The National Guard reports to and answers to the statte Governor. Not a county sheriff.
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Watch and decide for yourself.


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can he ? he is not smart enough to operate one of those but he could order it done by his minion.
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is this for real ?


President Obama plans to use military drones in the skies over the United States to assassinate journalists, patriots and critics of his administration. That’s the inescapable conclusion from the emerging pattern of evidence now publicly available — keep reading for details.

Front and center in this pattern of evidence is the 16-page memo that was just released by Obama’s lawyers in the Department of Justice. This memo puts forth a “legal justification” for the President to order the drone assassination of any American citizen he names — anytime, anywhere, for any reason. This new power claimed by the President has no basis in federal law or the Constitution. It is an invented power of absolute tyranny that puts the power to decide who lives and who dies in the hands of one man. This document essentially legalizes the President acting as a serial murderer.

It is claimed that the purpose of this new power to simply name any American the President doesn’t like and immediately have them struck by a Hellfire missile launched from a drone is designed to “protect America.” Yet the 16-page memo that claims to justify all this was intentionally written to include Americans on U.S. soil as potential targets.

As Judge Andrew Napolitano explained just a few days ago on Fox News:

“This 16-page white paper is written so vaguely that the logic from it could… permit the President to kill Americans here in the United States.”

That’s the whole point, actually. If Americans on U.S. soil were to be excluded from such drone assassinations, such language would have been made readily apparent in the memo. But no such language is found in the memo. In fact, the tone of the document quite clearly states that the President has the authority to order drone killings of U.S. citizens anywhere in the world, under any circumstances.


more - [link to www.realnewsreporter.com]
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"can Obama really use Drones to kill US Citizens anytime, anywhere, for any reason. ?"

no. Air national guard will be ordered to shoot them down BY THE SHERIFF of each county.

Its over for the corrupt. Everyone now knows that it isn't some crazy conspiracy theory. These sick bastards really want all the American men dead.
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Can't be done by a county sheriff. The Gov. is in charge of each States' National Guard.
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The sheriffs are the highest law enforcement in each state.
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can he ? he is not smart enough to operate one of those but he could order it done by his minion.
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no, mr. obama is not above the law. and the law forbids to kill people.
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Yeah, but who's going to enforce the law?
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"can Obama really use Drones to kill US Citizens anytime, anywhere, for any reason. ?"

no. Air national guard will be ordered to shoot them down BY THE SHERIFF of each county.

Its over for the corrupt. Everyone now knows that it isn't some crazy conspiracy theory. These sick bastards really want all the American men dead.
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Kind of puts smokie in a better light now dont it.
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no, mr. obama is not above the law. and the law forbids to kill people.
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Yeah, but who's going to enforce the law?
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"can Obama really use Drones to kill US Citizens anytime, anywhere, for any reason. ?"

no. Air national guard will be ordered to shoot them down BY THE SHERIFF of each county.

Its over for the corrupt. Everyone now knows that it isn't some crazy conspiracy theory. These sick bastards really want all the American men dead.
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Kind of puts smokie in a better light now dont it.
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Dear Senator Paul:
It has come to my attention that you have now asked an additional question: "Does the President have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil?" The answer to that question is no.
Sincerely
Eric H. Holder, Jr.

----------------------------------------------------------


In other words, they said 'no' only to 'noncombatants.'

If youre deemed a 'combatant,' then its game on theres a drone and hellfire missile w your name on it. and if they have to kill 50 uninvolved persons to get you well that ok too

and just who gets to decide who is a 'combatant' and who isnt? Obama.
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Dear Senator Paul:
It has come to my attention that you have now asked an additional question: "Does the President have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil?" The answer to that question is no.
Sincerely
Eric H. Holder, Jr.

----------------------------------------------------------


In other words, they said 'no' only to 'noncombatants.'

If youre deemed a 'combatant,' then its game on theres a drone and hellfire missile w your name on it. and if they have to kill 50 uninvolved persons to get you well that ok too

and just who gets to decide who is a 'combatant' and who isnt? Obama.
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President Obama plans to use military drones in the skies over the United States to assassinate journalists, patriots and critics of his administration. That’s the inescapable conclusion from the emerging pattern of evidence now publicly available — keep reading for details.

Front and center in this pattern of evidence is the 16-page memo that was just released by Obama’s lawyers in the Department of Justice. This memo puts forth a “legal justification” for the President to order the drone assassination of any American citizen he names — anytime, anywhere, for any reason. This new power claimed by the President has no basis in federal law or the Constitution. It is an invented power of absolute tyranny that puts the power to decide who lives and who dies in the hands of one man. This document essentially legalizes the President acting as a serial murderer.

It is claimed that the purpose of this new power to simply name any American the President doesn’t like and immediately have them struck by a Hellfire missile launched from a drone is designed to “protect America.” Yet the 16-page memo that claims to justify all this was intentionally written to include Americans on U.S. soil as potential targets.

As Judge Andrew Napolitano explained just a few days ago on Fox News:

“This 16-page white paper is written so vaguely that the logic from it could… permit the President to kill Americans here in the United States.”

That’s the whole point, actually. If Americans on U.S. soil were to be excluded from such drone assassinations, such language would have been made readily apparent in the memo. But no such language is found in the memo. In fact, the tone of the document quite clearly states that the President has the authority to order drone killings of U.S. citizens anywhere in the world, under any circumstances.


more - [link to www.realnewsreporter.com]
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