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The Four Noble Truths - To Live is to Suffer

 
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This seems to wrap up the human condition fairly well, IMO. It is not meant to be depressive concepts, but more of the actual human condition as defined by Buddha. Yes, it revolves around suffering. Buddha looked at living as suffering in that everywhere one could look within living as a human leads to suffering. Some of us may look at it different, but when understanding Buddha's point of view, it opens the mind into why he thought that.

If you love someone, eventually it leads to death of yourself first, causing suffering for your loved ones, or the death of loved ones causing suffering to self. That is to put it VERY briefly, but this is the way he viewed the world he lived in. Where did this suffering arise from, and how to transcend suffering was what he searched for, eventually finding it when experiencing Nirvana while still embodied in flesh while sitting under The Bodhi Tree.

Like any individual personal miracle, he could not describe how to attain Nirvana as the seeking eventually leads to states of mind that are beyond language. This seems to be a foundational aspect of Buddha and something that must not only be understood, but realized within one's life in order to discover any semblance of peace while embodied as a human. Eventually the teachings lead to the release of all earthly attachments, resulting in the attainment of Nirvana and release from karmic debt.

The Four Noble Truths


1. Life means suffering.
To live is to suffer.
During our lifetime, we inevitably have to endure physical suffering such as pain, sickness, injury, tiredness, old age, and eventually death; and we have to endure psychological suffering like sadness, fear, frustration, disappointment, and depression... life in its totality is imperfect and incomplete, because our world is subject to impermanence. This means we are never able to keep permanently what we strive for, and just as happy moments pass by, we ourselves and our loved ones will pass away one day, too.
 Quoting: 1st Noble Truth


2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
Because the objects of our attachment are transient, their loss is inevitable, thus suffering will necessarily follow (Transient things do not only include the physical objects that surround us, but also ideas). Objects of attachment also include the idea of a "self" which is a delusion, because there is no abiding self. What we call "self" is just an imagined entity, and we are merely a part of the ceaseless becoming of the universe.
 Quoting: 2nd Noble Truth


3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
The cessation of suffering can be attained through nirodha.
Nirodha means the unmaking of sensual craving and conceptual attachment...Nirodha extinguishes all forms of clinging and attachment. This means that suffering can be overcome through human activity, simply by removing the cause of suffering.
 Quoting: 3rd Noble Truth


4. The path to the cessation of suffering.
Following a path to end suffering. This is furthered and explained in the EightFold Path.
It is the middle way between the two extremes of excessive self-indulgence (hedonism) and excessive self-mortification (asceticism); and it leads to the end of the cycle of rebirth. The latter quality discerns it from other paths which are merely "wandering on the wheel of becoming", because these do not have a final object...Craving, ignorance, delusions, and its effects will disappear gradually, as progress is made on the path.
 Quoting: 4th Noble Truth

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"All alien pilots are Buddhists" - Dion
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only under archon rule though. that virus will someday meet its remedy. not infinite in scope. move along.
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Heya SS. Long time no see.


I have fallen in love with Buddha's teachings recently.


They are very insightful.
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only under archon rule though. that virus will someday meet its remedy. not infinite in scope. move along.
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Where do you want me to move to?
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Heya SS. Long time no see.


I have fallen in love with Buddha's teachings recently.


They are very insightful.
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Yes, they are. I've always enjoyed the teachings. I'll jump into the Eightfold Path soon.
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only under archon rule though. that virus will someday meet its remedy. not infinite in scope. move along.
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Where do you want me to move to?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Saturn maybe. their hive/ android tech is far superior to Earth's. in fact they are One. Don't you want to be One with the Universe?
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bump

it's all about compassion for our fellow sentient beings

buddha's teachings can take a fellow a long way

hf
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this is the archon mind which is the ego mind , it it very powerfull and have led men to do insane acts against other men , it is a lil guy sitting in a controll chairjust behind your eyes , and he is a tough adversary, but through meditation and practice you can become enlightend and free of this invader. craving is the source of all suffering
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only under archon rule though. that virus will someday meet its remedy. not infinite in scope. move along.
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Where do you want me to move to?
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Saturn maybe. their hive/ android tech is far superior to Earth's. in fact they are One. Don't you want to be One with the Universe?
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this is the archon mind which is the ego mind , it it very powerfull and have led men to do insane acts against other men , it is a lil guy sitting in a controll chairjust behind your eyes , and he is a tough adversary, but through meditation and practice you can become enlightend and free of this invader. craving is the source of all suffering
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Yes, craving and attachment.
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this is the archon mind which is the ego mind , it it very powerfull and have led men to do insane acts against other men , it is a lil guy sitting in a controll chairjust behind your eyes , and he is a tough adversary, but through meditation and practice you can become enlightend and free of this invader. craving is the source of all suffering
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exactly! 2 distinct creatures that become One. the harvest. There's the original aeon children, or human spirit, then there's the host of borg/ hive things with assorted avatars selling shit. the robotic nature of archons versus the natural order, and using counterfeit nature through illusions of nature to feed off of our emotions. the set up to fail State. Sex to reproduce -- internet porn, go straight to hell, or Saturn. Magistrates say so.
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Thanks for sharing these truths
Really a true path to let go of suffering for those who really dare to face themselves...
Balance and having fun with it all is also important, so we never forget to laugh at ourselves...

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Truth and Love...
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thank you
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Thanks for sharing these truths
Really a true path to let go of suffering for those who really dare to face themselves...
Balance and having fun with it all is also important, so we never forget to laugh at ourselves...

:O)
 Quoting: 141


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I'm more interested in what's going on outside this matrix, or quarantine zone. Sophia traitor or the Baphomet, aka Lucifer or Shiva who aborted a lion with serpent's tail (virus/ Prometheus goo seen on X files as alien virus) seen as MGM studios and Saturn, is going to get told!!!! Little robots just keep feeding and doing Calculus, so the survivors will be part of a cosmic immune system.

Hang on peeps, we came from the original REAL Source, or what's left of us -- not all of those organic portal things and aliens. @#%#$Y*%!!!!
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I'm more interested in what's going on outside this matrix, or quarantine zone. Sophia traitor or the Baphomet, aka Lucifer or Shiva who aborted a lion with serpent's tail (virus/ Prometheus goo seen on X files as alien virus) seen as MGM studios and Saturn, is going to get told!!!! Little robots just keep feeding and doing Calculus, so the survivors will be part of a cosmic immune system.

Hang on peeps, we came from the original REAL Source, or what's left of us -- not all of those organic portal things and aliens. @#%#$Y*%!!!!
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welcome to the NET, WWW, and CERN.
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anything I can do to help OP. Truth is singular.
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I'm more interested in what's going on outside this matrix, or quarantine zone. Sophia traitor or the Baphomet, aka Lucifer or Shiva who aborted a lion with serpent's tail (virus/ Prometheus goo seen on X files as alien virus) seen as MGM studios and Saturn, is going to get told!!!! Little robots just keep feeding and doing Calculus, so the survivors will be part of a cosmic immune system.

Hang on peeps, we came from the original REAL Source, or what's left of us -- not all of those organic portal things and aliens. @#%#$Y*%!!!!
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What does this fantasy have to do with the 4 Noble Truths?

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I'm more interested in what's going on outside this matrix, or quarantine zone. Sophia traitor or the Baphomet, aka Lucifer or Shiva who aborted a lion with serpent's tail (virus/ Prometheus goo seen on X files as alien virus) seen as MGM studios and Saturn, is going to get told!!!! Little robots just keep feeding and doing Calculus, so the survivors will be part of a cosmic immune system.

Hang on peeps, we came from the original REAL Source, or what's left of us -- not all of those organic portal things and aliens. @#%#$Y*%!!!!
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welcome to the NET, WWW, and CERN.
[link to starworlds.blogspot.com]

anything I can do to help OP. Truth is singular.
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um, not sure you are really helping. So, you think these archons live on Saturn?
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This guy's better than any shrink or best friend you ever had
(he has at least 500 vids):

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this is the archon mind which is the ego mind , it it very powerfull and have led men to do insane acts against other men , it is a lil guy sitting in a controll chairjust behind your eyes , and he is a tough adversary, but through meditation and practice you can become enlightend and free of this invader. craving is the source of all suffering
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36376632


Yes, craving and attachment.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


the three poisons (of ignorance, attachment, and aversion) are the primary causes that keep sentient beings trapped in samsara (the repeating cycle of birth, life, death and rebirth)

These three poisons are considered to be the cause of suffering.

hf

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"It was easy to love God in all that was beautiful.
The lessons of deeper knowledge, though, instructed me to embrace God in all things." St Francis of Assisi

The measure of mental health is the disposition to find good everywhere.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson.
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BTW, folks putting these up for him chose the schmaltzy music accompaniments...just skip them.
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OP, do I need to suffer to be a Buddhist? to be One? and follow the little 4 agreements that troubled youth, addictions, and alcoholics are made to memorize in treatment centers? ok.....

so telling

archons always expose themselves. they can't help it, little robots. maybe I should stay on the grid too.
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this is the archon mind which is the ego mind , it it very powerfull and have led men to do insane acts against other men , it is a lil guy sitting in a controll chairjust behind your eyes , and he is a tough adversary, but through meditation and practice you can become enlightend and free of this invader. craving is the source of all suffering
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36376632


Yes, craving and attachment.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


the three poisons (of ignorance, attachment, and aversion) are the primary causes that keep sentient beings trapped in samsara (the repeating cycle of birth, life, death and rebirth)

These three poisons are considered to be the cause of suffering.

hf
 Quoting: KindaDistorted


applause
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OP, do I need to suffer to be a Buddhist? to be One? and follow the little 4 agreements that troubled youth, addictions, and alcoholics are made to memorize in treatment centers? ok.....

so telling

archons always expose themselves. they can't help it, little robots. maybe I should stay on the grid too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14403914


You don't understand. Of course you do not need to suffer to be a Buddhist. Buddha merely stated that life is suffering. All of us suffer, it's a fact of life.

How do your 'archons' expose themselves?
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Sometimes it is also easier to blame some Archons living on Saturn for it all...
Instead of looking in that mirror...
Bc if it is something about ourselves, we can actually make a difference here and now, by changing our perceptions/perspective/actions... And we can influence others in our circle of influence by making true connections...

Damn hard to make those mean old Archon buggers to listen :P

Sorry for the 'buggers' lol am in London being taught some cockney chuckle
Truth and Love...
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OP, do I need to suffer to be a Buddhist? to be One? and follow the little 4 agreements that troubled youth, addictions, and alcoholics are made to memorize in treatment centers? ok.....

so telling

archons always expose themselves. they can't help it, little robots. maybe I should stay on the grid too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14403914


You don't understand. Of course you do not need to suffer to be a Buddhist. Buddha merely stated that life is suffering. All of us suffer, it's a fact of life.

How do your 'archons' expose themselves?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


not my archons. the gnostics, esoteric, coptic texts, Greeks, magistrates, Nag Hammadi, banks, etc. -- their archons. google it. it's your friend.
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Sometimes it is also easier to blame some Archons living on Saturn for it all...
Instead of looking in that mirror...
Bc if it is something about ourselves, we can actually make a difference here and now, by changing our perceptions/perspective/actions... And we can influence others in our circle of influence by making true connections...

Damn hard to make those mean old Archon buggers to listen :P

Sorry for the 'buggers' lol am in London being taught some cockney chuckle
 Quoting: 141


I think the Nag Hammadi and Greeks are a little more advanced than a pot smoker telling lies for pennies on the market.
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How can attachment to somebody be a posion? I understand being attached to things and craving for things/money is posion....But what about love and falling in love..... Or am I missing something?
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OP, do I need to suffer to be a Buddhist? to be One? and follow the little 4 agreements that troubled youth, addictions, and alcoholics are made to memorize in treatment centers? ok.....

so telling

archons always expose themselves. they can't help it, little robots. maybe I should stay on the grid too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14403914


You don't understand. Of course you do not need to suffer to be a Buddhist. Buddha merely stated that life is suffering. All of us suffer, it's a fact of life.

How do your 'archons' expose themselves?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


not my archons. the gnostics, esoteric, coptic texts, Greeks, magistrates, Nag Hammadi, banks, etc. -- their archons. google it. it's your friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14403914


I know what archons are. I didn't say I didn't. You said archons always expose themselves, and it's 'so telling'. What are you saying? Are your comments of any relation to this thread? Or are you just into Pokemon?
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OP, just looked at your profile. why do your post get low ratings so much? just asking.

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