The Four Noble Truths - To Live is to Suffer

This seems to wrap up the human condition fairly well, IMO. It is not meant to be depressive concepts, but more of the actual human condition as defined by Buddha. Yes, it revolves around suffering. Buddha looked at living as suffering in that everywhere one could look within living as a human leads to suffering. Some of us may look at it different, but when understanding Buddha's point of view, it opens the mind into why he thought that.

If you love someone, eventually it leads to death of yourself first, causing suffering for your loved ones, or the death of loved ones causing suffering to self. That is to put it VERY briefly, but this is the way he viewed the world he lived in. Where did this suffering arise from, and how to transcend suffering was what he searched for, eventually finding it when experiencing Nirvana while still embodied in flesh while sitting under The Bodhi Tree.

Like any individual personal miracle, he could not describe how to attain Nirvana as the seeking eventually leads to states of mind that are beyond language. This seems to be a foundational aspect of Buddha and something that must not only be understood, but realized within one's life in order to discover any semblance of peace while embodied as a human. Eventually the teachings lead to the release of all earthly attachments, resulting in the attainment of Nirvana and release from karmic debt.

The Four Noble Truths

1. Life means suffering.
To live is to suffer.


2. The origin of suffering is attachment.


3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
The cessation of suffering can be attained through nirodha.


4. The path to the cessation of suffering.
Following a path to end suffering. This is furthered and explained in the EightFold Path.

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Well, you're talking about bargaining now. A type of fearful thinly disguised self interest.
It is my instinct to help sentient life anyway, and sure am not going to "clear my karmic files" in the materialistic way you propose.
This is strictly a come as you are party.
So just shut up and sit down and breathe that is the only morality there is.

OH, btw, when I want to be "taught" I'll ask for it.

this is the archon mind which is the ego mind , it it very powerfull and have led men to do insane acts against other men , it is a lil guy sitting in a controll chairjust behind your eyes , and he is a tough adversary, but through meditation and practice you can become enlightend and free of this invader. craving is the source of all suffering

What exactly is his religion?

I didn't become awakened by meditation and practice. I was Awakened after an extraordinary trial that made absolutely no sense. Until now. Three weeks at the age of 37 I labored. Three weeks in the worst hell imaginable. Then three weeks of healing has occurred. It's amazing...not one bit of it planned. Just a willing, faithful person going about his business and always in search of that - ANSWER.

Thanks for taking the time to post this bro!!!

Yes, we pay our karma with good actions or with suffering... even if you stop to doing bad things, such to be a rude moron as you are, for example.
You still will keep aquiring bad karma through the alimentation, no mentioning your bad karma already acquired, so this way is impossible leave the Samsara as you wish.
I'm not teaching you, just saying, i guess is good to ilustrate how impossible all this is.

No, you're being disrespectful to another being by forcing your views on someone else. That is aggression, a fine example as well.
What you are talking about I addressed, oh, 30 years ago.
So be careful who you assume some kind of superior knowledge over.
If you know something then BE THAT and keep your dignity and mouth closed.

I noticed you didn't address any of my points either, but that's ok. It had to do with a level of understanding you clearly lack.

How is he forcing views? Curious.

Thank you for posting this thread. :)

I understand these truths and want to embrace them. But quite honestly I feel like a fish flopping on the shore, gasping for the waters.

This, even after "dying" once many years ago. I know that truth that we will let go and all this is irrelevant. And you will forget who you are and everyone you have ever known.

Yet, I put aside tokens of remembrance and I worry for the present and the future. I have not been able to let go of attachments, and believe me my mini-death at the hospital was true and hard. However our attachment to what we know and think we can "control" is so deep...it's hard to move to a different place because we cannot easily let go.

Think of how hard it is to even have a tag sale. People in this world are hoarders of material things. We are also hoarders of "memories" and emotional things.

But in order to be truly free we have to release it all.

The true struggle is in this release. For some it takes a lifetime, for some it takes many. I'm thinking of that video someone posted today of the lab chimps who were free. How different are we, really? Eventually they all went outside though because they realized how amazingly beautiful that world was compared to "inside." Even though we know their "outside" is still a prison.

The rabbit hole runs very, very deep.

Forcing is to impose views on someone else. In my 40 years of practice I've not imposed my views about spirituality even on my own son. Instead it would be in his environment yet entirely his choice whether or not to act towards it, so it would be his idea and not mine.
He did say it feels really nice when I'm in my room practicing.
He has to ask for it. So I don't comment lightly without something behind it.

Instead here someone steps up to read to me from a buddhist Dick & Jane reader.

This is a buddhist point of view not mine, although I agree with that part.
He was disrespectful with me first so i just returned.
Im no trying do be superior, i just replied, is not for this the forum is?

Btw, my son has had exposure to genuine teachers since infancy and even before that.
There is plenty of material he can resource right here if and when he wants to.

Curiosity has to be from inside oneself otherwise it's just more elementary bs as usual.
The whole thing is mostly experiential.

OK, I agree with you. I do not force beliefs on my daughters. My wife does to a certain extent, but they all know that I do not conform to specific beliefs. I take them all in and distill the teachings.

But, to post or offer teachings is not 'forcing' in any way. Would you rather have it censored?

This is a buddhist point of view not mine, although I agree with that part.
He was disrespectful with me first so i just returned.
Im no trying do be superior, i just replied, is not for this the forum is?

this is art, yur a bitch.

peace

Fifth truth: Buddha is in Hell.

Repent.

I've got a much better one, lol. I posted it the other day.

About time you got the balls to show up.

Fifth truth: Buddha is in Hell.

Repent.