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Laboratory chimps caged for 30 years get released and see the sky fot the first time

 
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They just got released into a bigger cage :/
 Quoting: The Loophole


True, but I suspect it is a necessary interim solution.

You cannot simply release a highly intellectual animal like a chimp in to the wild because unfortunately the chimp has been disconnected from it's base instincts and would likely not survive.

By comparison, that same argument can be made of the present class of people who seek to have a government provide all for them.

Most would be scared to venture out in to that yard just like the chimps but eventually we want both the government zombies and the chimps to be free and to live outside that cage.
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Great video, thanks for sharing!

Couple points:

1. Watching that video, especially when the chimps were apprehensive about exiting their "cage," pensively peering out into the "unknown," I was reminded of Plato's "The Allegory of the Cave."

2. Again, another example where I wish there was not a music backing track, designed to invoke an emotional response. If you have never been aware of this, notice it from now on in videos you watch on youtube. If you still have one or more feet firmly planted inside the matrix and you still watch television programming, listen for it and notice it when you watch shows and commercials- Music is added as a backing track to coerce you into feeling a certain way. It is not honest, and it is an example of someone else programming your mind- literally, causing you to feel certain emotions you may or may not have come to feel genuinely on your own...Which begs the question, "If I would have felt those feelings anyway, without the backing music track, then why was it necessarily included?"

3. What type of paradigm-shattering moments have I experienced in my lifetime? What further paradigm-shifts, and monumental changes in perception of reality further await me?*

*What terms exist for such an idea- that of a "dramatic, life-altering shift in consciousness," a "monumental paradigm change," etc.? Please do share, what terms or word(s) would you use to describe the experience those chimpanzees had in the video?
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


great fucking points dude!
great fucking avatar also.
not only because its mr eastwood, but we share the same first name.....lol


go points !!
awesome..
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Don't drop the soap, monkey.
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They just got released into a bigger cage :/
 Quoting: The Loophole


True, but I suspect it is a necessary interim solution.

You cannot simply release a highly intellectual animal like a chimp in to the wild because unfortunately the chimp has been disconnected from it's base instincts and would likely not survive.

By comparison, that same argument can be made of the present class of people who seek to have a government provide all for them.

Most would be scared to venture out in to that yard just like the chimps but eventually we want both the government zombies and the chimps to be free and to live outside that cage.
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I just saw that slump in their shoulders towards the end when they looked around and realised it was just another box. Can you imagine years of seeking freedom, only to escape and find yourself in yet another cage?

That shoulder slump just hit me at soul level.
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They just got released into a bigger cage :/
 Quoting: The Loophole


True, but I suspect it is a necessary interim solution.

You cannot simply release a highly intellectual animal like a chimp in to the wild because unfortunately the chimp has been disconnected from it's base instincts and would likely not survive.

By comparison, that same argument can be made of the present class of people who seek to have a government provide all for them.

Most would be scared to venture out in to that yard just like the chimps but eventually we want both the government zombies and the chimps to be free and to live outside that cage.
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I just saw that slump in their shoulders towards the end when they looked around and realised it was just another box. Can you imagine years of seeking freedom, only to escape and find yourself in yet another cage?

That shoulder slump just hit me at soul level.
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In the jungle, you would have natural borders.

A river, or human territory, dense plantation, other chimp tribes...
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Chimps intelligence:

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In the jungle, you would have natural borders.

A river, or human territory, dense plantation, other chimp tribes...
 Quoting: Finally Freedom 913721


Why the need to rationalise being caged?
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They just got released into a bigger cage :/
 Quoting: The Loophole


:hmmm:
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No, all they need is a flag, and to be told they are free.

I especially like the foliage painted on the concrete walls, nice touch. So symbolic of our lives.
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In the jungle, you would have natural borders.

A river, or human territory, dense plantation, other chimp tribes...
 Quoting: Finally Freedom 913721


Why the need to rationalise being caged?
 Quoting: The Loophole


Because you need a minimum space to be able to perceive freedom.

I made the distinction between a small cage and an area where you can run, play and meet.

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In the jungle, you would have natural borders.

A river, or human territory, dense plantation, other chimp tribes...
 Quoting: Finally Freedom 913721


Why the need to rationalise being caged?
 Quoting: The Loophole


Because you need a minimum space to be able to perceive freedom.

I made the distinction between a small cage and an area where you can run, play and meet.

.
 Quoting: Finally Freedom 913721


That sounds like human rights legislation that requires that prisoners be allowed an hour in the yard each day.

It's not living.
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They just got released into a bigger cage :/
 Quoting: The Loophole


:hmmm:
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


No, all they need is a flag, and to be told they are free.

I especially like the foliage painted on the concrete walls, nice touch. So symbolic of our lives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35963626


For them it's just temporary... a mid stage

For most people it's their actual their whole life hanging in that interim state.

TPB = Status Quo = Forced mass mediocrity
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In the jungle, you would have natural borders.

A river, or human territory, dense plantation, other chimp tribes...
 Quoting: Finally Freedom 913721


Why the need to rationalise being caged?
 Quoting: The Loophole


Because you need a minimum space to be able to perceive freedom.

I made the distinction between a small cage and an area where you can run, play and meet.

.
 Quoting: Finally Freedom 913721


That sounds like human rights legislation that requires that prisoners be allowed an hour in the yard each day.

It's not living.
 Quoting: The Loophole


It's the difference between "regular" camping and wild camping.

The last one is better than the first, but the first is definately better than camping in the kitchen.
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verysad
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Hopefully they'll be released to the wild after getting use to this. I think they would die if released right away.

We shouldn't be doing this at all. These are not our's to do experiments on.

Makes you wonder what we are and who the people are that push this and think it's OK. They still experiment on us as well. Look at the sky sometime.

Who are these cruel creatures that condone this and where are they from?

verysad goaway slaphim
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Lot of people serving life sentences or committed to mental institutions because someone lied to steal from another or to protect them self by letting someone else bear the blame.
This reminded me of those people since I knew one personally that lived in a single room like a cage for years before dieing just so someone else could take what was his.
Sad world we live in.
But I do wonder why they wasnt allowed outside daily for a bit of time.
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Reminds me of Charles Manson. agent
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Great video, thanks for sharing!

Couple points:

1. Watching that video, especially when the chimps were apprehensive about exiting their "cage," pensively peering out into the "unknown," I was reminded of Plato's "The Allegory of the Cave."

2. Again, another example where I wish there was not a music backing track, designed to invoke an emotional response. If you have never been aware of this, notice it from now on in videos you watch on youtube. If you still have one or more feet firmly planted inside the matrix and you still watch television programming, listen for it and notice it when you watch shows and commercials- Music is added as a backing track to coerce you into feeling a certain way. It is not honest, and it is an example of someone else programming your mind- literally, causing you to feel certain emotions you may or may not have come to feel genuinely on your own...Which begs the question, "If I would have felt those feelings anyway, without the backing music track, then why was it necessarily included?"

3. What type of paradigm-shattering moments have I experienced in my lifetime? What further paradigm-shifts, and monumental changes in perception of reality further await me?*

*What terms exist for such an idea- that of a "dramatic, life-altering shift in consciousness," a "monumental paradigm change," etc.? Please do share, what terms or word(s) would you use to describe the experience those chimpanzees had in the video?
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


great fucking points dude!
great fucking avatar also.
not only because its mr eastwood, but we share the same first name.....lol


go points !!
awesome..
 Quoting: veracious common sense


clappa
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Hopefully they'll be released to the wild after getting use to this. I think they would die if released right away.

We shouldn't be doing this at all. These are not our's to do experiments on.

Makes you wonder what we are and who the people are that push this and think it's OK. They still experiment on us as well. Look at the sky sometime.

Who are these cruel creatures that condone this and where are they from?

verysad goaway slaphim
 Quoting: RedDawnPost


hf
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I admit it's nice and all but how many times is this going to be posted and pinned ??????????????
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I admit it's nice and all but how many times is this going to be posted and pinned ??????????????
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As many times as needed.
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Ya, still... it was a bigger cage.

Still, thanks for sharing... gave a tear to my eye, going through ruff shit lately, good to have some hope.

Until i can break out of the next cage...
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so was i the only one that teared up?
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so was i the only one that teared up?
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No. hf
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So sad, the worst prisoners get an hour outside per day.
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so was i the only one that teared up?
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ofcourse not... there's still hope... as long as people can feel


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You can judge a society by how it treats its animals...
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The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way it's animals are treated.
~Mahatma Gandhi~ 1869-1948

Credit where credit is due...huh?
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Nazi Germany had the first animal protection laws.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

clappa
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Re: Laboratory chimps caged for 30 years get released and see the sky fot the first time
They just got released into a bigger cage :/
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Pssst.... "The Matrix is all around you. Even in this very room. You are a slave, Neo, in a prison with bars that you cannot see. You are being farmed, Neo. You are livestock."
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They just got released into a bigger cage :/
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Pssst.... "The Matrix is all around you. Even in this very room. You are a slave, Neo, in a prison with bars that you cannot see. You are being farmed, Neo. You are livestock."
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I lol'd that one monkey banged the other one twice before daring to go outside! Just in case, I guess.
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I lol'd that one monkey banged the other one twice before daring to go outside! Just in case, I guess.
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Yes...panick sex. just in case.oridin
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Keep those ugly faggots locked up in their cages

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