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Gustav Whitehead and how his story is a terrific example of how WE LIVE IN THE MATRIX...

 
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I get this.

Gustav Whitehead (and he SHOULD be known) is a TAD different than the head of a country who has declared war on Jews (but who cares, right?) and the whole west. Who wants to spread Islam per the scriptures----by the Sword.

Who is awaiting the arrival of the Mahdi----------Islamic Messiah--------who will then start a world war and have all non-believers forcibly converted to Islam. Those that refuse will be killed. Read their scriptures.

But of course, if they attack Israel, who cares, right? Zionist Jewish scum that deserve everything they get.

It does not matter that they could (and almost certainly would) go after US next.

You are a pacifist, right? UN takes care of everything and we are the world afterwards under a socialist world government, right?

And yes, Israel is guilty of a lot of things. Of course. But I'd rather take my chances with the "Zionists" than with Islamists trying to take over the world over their beliefs and religion.

Sorry, but no can do.
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I do not know if I would necessarily attach the moniker of 'Pacifict' to myself. I am however, against the wars and aggression currently being waged by the U.S. government, absolutely.

I am 100% against the United Nations, in theory and in practice.
Nowhere did I mention Israel, and I wonder why you and another paid shill happened to bring up Israel in this thread.
Answer: Because within the thread I encourage readers to think critically, logically, reasonably, and rationally about war and Iran, specifically the overt injection of the "War with Iran" meme that the captured mainstream media in the U.S. has been repeating for at least ten years now. So, since your employers' agenda, as paid shills, is to promote the war/death/debt paradigm and the idea that "U.S. govt is authority and is good," then you show up and attempt to derail.

No chance.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer

You are totally wrong that I am a shill. Just an ordinary guy who does not like Iran (and leans pro-Israel, admittedly.)

Usually the anti-Iran people here are usually also anti-Israel and "anti-zionist."

Sorry, but Zionism DEALS with Israel. You should know that.

Again, YOU ARE WRONG.
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And, oh yes--------you have not answered any of my charges about Ahmadinejad.

You are saying that Iran just wishes peace and love towards Israel and other nations in the region, right?

LOL.
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I get this.

Gustav Whitehead (and he SHOULD be known) is a TAD different than the head of a country who has declared war on Jews (but who cares, right?) and the whole west. Who wants to spread Islam per the scriptures----by the Sword.

Who is awaiting the arrival of the Mahdi----------Islamic Messiah--------who will then start a world war and have all non-believers forcibly converted to Islam. Those that refuse will be killed. Read their scriptures.

But of course, if they attack Israel, who cares, right? Zionist Jewish scum that deserve everything they get.

It does not matter that they could (and almost certainly would) go after US next.

You are a pacifist, right? UN takes care of everything and we are the world afterwards under a socialist world government, right?

And yes, Israel is guilty of a lot of things. Of course. But I'd rather take my chances with the "Zionists" than with Islamists trying to take over the world over their beliefs and religion.

Sorry, but no can do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835




I do not know if I would necessarily attach the moniker of 'Pacifict' to myself. I am however, against the wars and aggression currently being waged by the U.S. government, absolutely.

I am 100% against the United Nations, in theory and in practice.
Nowhere did I mention Israel, and I wonder why you and another paid shill happened to bring up Israel in this thread.
Answer: Because within the thread I encourage readers to think critically, logically, reasonably, and rationally about war and Iran, specifically the overt injection of the "War with Iran" meme that the captured mainstream media in the U.S. has been repeating for at least ten years now. So, since your employers' agenda, as paid shills, is to promote the war/death/debt paradigm and the idea that "U.S. govt is authority and is good," then you show up and attempt to derail.

No chance.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer

You are totally wrong that I am a shill. Just an ordinary guy who does not like Iran (and leans pro-Israel, admittedly.)

Usually the anti-Iran people here are usually also anti-Israel and "anti-zionist."

Sorry, but Zionism DEALS with Israel. You should know that.

Again, YOU ARE WRONG.
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1. Please tell me succinctly why you "do not like Iran."
2. Please tell me succinctly why you "lean pro-Israel."
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I get this.

Gustav Whitehead (and he SHOULD be known) is a TAD different than the head of a country who has declared war on Jews (but who cares, right?) and the whole west. Who wants to spread Islam per the scriptures----by the Sword.

Who is awaiting the arrival of the Mahdi----------Islamic Messiah--------who will then start a world war and have all non-believers forcibly converted to Islam. Those that refuse will be killed. Read their scriptures.

But of course, if they attack Israel, who cares, right? Zionist Jewish scum that deserve everything they get.

It does not matter that they could (and almost certainly would) go after US next.

You are a pacifist, right? UN takes care of everything and we are the world afterwards under a socialist world government, right?

And yes, Israel is guilty of a lot of things. Of course. But I'd rather take my chances with the "Zionists" than with Islamists trying to take over the world over their beliefs and religion.

Sorry, but no can do.
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I do not know if I would necessarily attach the moniker of 'Pacifict' to myself. I am however, against the wars and aggression currently being waged by the U.S. government, absolutely.

I am 100% against the United Nations, in theory and in practice.
Nowhere did I mention Israel, and I wonder why you and another paid shill happened to bring up Israel in this thread.
Answer: Because within the thread I encourage readers to think critically, logically, reasonably, and rationally about war and Iran, specifically the overt injection of the "War with Iran" meme that the captured mainstream media in the U.S. has been repeating for at least ten years now. So, since your employers' agenda, as paid shills, is to promote the war/death/debt paradigm and the idea that "U.S. govt is authority and is good," then you show up and attempt to derail.

No chance.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer

You are totally wrong that I am a shill. Just an ordinary guy who does not like Iran (and leans pro-Israel, admittedly.)

Usually the anti-Iran people here are usually also anti-Israel and "anti-zionist."

Sorry, but Zionism DEALS with Israel. You should know that.

Again, YOU ARE WRONG.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


And, oh yes--------you have not answered any of my charges about Ahmadinejad.

You are saying that Iran just wishes peace and love towards Israel and other nations in the region, right?

LOL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


If it is true that the leader of Iran has declared war on Israel and the nations of the west, please cite a specific example of an act of war against Israel, the United States, or any other western nation.
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world is in for radical change. The ones who set up this crises to run their game are overestimating their ability to control the crises. Time of change, great danger, great opportunity.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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03/18/2013 07:52 PM

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(A lot of snips to focus on the salient points:)

However, I think the pedagogy is purposefully indoctrinated with the "appeal to authority."
...to promote the idea that certain individuals are experts and therefore authorities in a given subject, and their opinions are NOT to be questioned or challenged.

And, sadly, the vast majority have been tricked/manipulated/coerced into thinking in this way.
...an individual who has been indoctrinated and fully engrossed into the matrix believes as "gospel truth" everything he is told.
...He will violently defend these foreign, implanted ideas as his own!

 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


Yes. And, Yes. Unfortunately. Independent thought is highly discouraged. Autonomous action is aggressively berated.

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Apocalypse: All shall be revealed. And all shall be revealed.
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03/18/2013 07:56 PM
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I totally get what you're trying to say here about where our beliefs actually come from. People tend to believe that their opinions on any given subject are their own, but actually if they stopped and thought about it, they'd realise that the views they hold are the same as everybody elses, and on matters that they really no nothing about.

I've tried to explain this to people I know, and I just get a blank stare back lol. Some people just can't comprehend that some thoughts they have qre not their own. They have seen images or stories and in their eyes have come up with logical views and opinions based on that.

Not realising that the images and stories were slanted so as to make the viewer come up with thoughts and opinions that the MSM desires.

When you start questioning the reasons for why you believe what you believe, you start to notice all the bullshit.

And then you end up on GLP lol.

You should always question what you believe and why you believe it, just incase they really aren't actually your beliefs.

I think Socrates used to make his students question everything, which is a good thing and maybe something we should be teaching kids in schools today.
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I totally get what you're trying to say here about where our beliefs actually come from. People tend to believe that their opinions on any given subject are their own, but actually if they stopped and thought about it, they'd realise that the views they hold are the same as everybody elses, and on matters that they really no nothing about.

I've tried to explain this to people I know, and I just get a blank stare back lol. Some people just can't comprehend that some thoughts they have qre not their own. They have seen images or stories and in their eyes have come up with logical views and opinions based on that.

Not realising that the images and stories were slanted so as to make the viewer come up with thoughts and opinions that the MSM desires.

When you start questioning the reasons for why you believe what you believe, you start to notice all the bullshit.

And then you end up on GLP lol.

You should always question what you believe and why you believe it, just incase they really aren't actually your beliefs.

I think Socrates used to make his students question everything, which is a good thing and maybe something we should be teaching kids in schools today.
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Re: Gustav Whitehead and how his story is a terrific example of how WE LIVE IN THE MATRIX...
Have you ever heard of a man named Gustav Whitehead?

If you asked 100 random people on the street, "Who was the first human being to ever fly in an airplane?" how many do you think would give you the correct response?

What would your answer be?

"The Wright Brothers- Orville and Wilbur Wright were the first humans to ever fly!"

Why do you think this to be so?

Well, for one, that is what every history book says!
And, if you go to the biggest, most important history museum in the United States, The Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C., they even have the airplane they created and flew in, The 1903 Wright Flyer on display there!

In fact, here is a snippet from The Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum's own website,

[link to airandspace.si.edu]


"Removed temporarily from its place of honor in Milestones of Flight, the 1903 Wright Flyer, the world's first successful airplane, serves as the centerpiece of this exhibition, which celebrates the centennial of the Wright brothers' historic flights. For the first time, the airplane is being displayed on the floor, so you can get a close-up, eye-level look at the historic craft that ushered in the age of flight.

The first part of this exhibition tells the story of how Wilbur and Orville Wright invented the airplane—who they were, how they worked, and what they accomplished. The second part shows how their monumental achievement affected the world in the decade that followed, when people everywhere became fascinated with flight."





But, who is Gustav Whitehead, and why is his story SO IMPORTANT?

The Wright Brothers were not the first human beings to fly. Someone designed, constructed, and successfully flew in the air a flying machine, before they did. Not days, weeks, or months before the Wright Brothers....
TWO YEARS before the Wright Brothers ever flew, Gustav Whitehead flew in the air in a flying machine.

More than 100 different newspapers reported this incredible feat, newspapers from across the United States, Hawaii, to as far away as Australie, Germany, and France, Gustav Whitehead was reported as having flown in the air in a flying machine he built. In the year 1901.

Please, do not take my word for it. Do not *ever* trust the words of anyone, without independently verifying the information as true for yourself. Here is but one source which backs up the claims I write in the above paragraph:
[link to www.ctpost.com]
Please, investigate this yourself, and draw your own conclusions.



But, why is Gustav Whitehead not rightfully credited with the accomplishment?

Why has the true history not been reported?

Do you think this is an isolated incident? Do you think this is truly the only case of "revisionist history" in the world?

Why do so many human beings, perhaps even you, believe Wilbur and Orville Wright were the first humans to fly, when there is absolute evidence that a man named Gustav Whitehead flew two years prior, in 1901 in Connecticut?
Is it because The Smithsonian Institute says it to be true? Because The Smithsonian claims authority over historical fact, whatever The Smithsonian says is true, it *must* be true?

Do you accept as truth whatever is reported on the nightly news, the daily newspaper, the news websites that have three letters followed by a .com?

I close in asking you this:
What do you think about Iran?
Now, before answering, you might ask for clarification: What do I mean, "about Iran?" Am I asking about politics, am I asking about the nation's history, or something else?
I ask again, in total, however you want to answer the question: "What do you think about Iran?"


Again, I would wager that if 100 random people were polled, the vast majority would answer somewhere along the lines of,
"Iran? Iran is a terrorist nation!" or "Iran is a serious threat, they are trying to build a nuclear weapon so we have to stop them before they do." or "Iran is a country in the Middle East who has a crazy dictator as leader, Ahmadinejad, who denies the Holocaust ever happened, and is a psychopath who we need to kill because he is a terrorist and supports terrorists."

In reality, none of those are original thoughts.
Of those hypothetical 100 random people, I would also wager that less than five of them would be able to successfully identify Iran on a globe. I would also wager that less than two of them would have ever traveled to Iran, or that they even personally know someone of Iranian descent.
I certainly doubt of those 100 random people, more than ten would be able to name a single city or region of Iran.

Those random 100 people would in reality, know nothing about Iran. They would have not one single original idea regarding Iran.
But yet, these same exact people would somehow hold moderately strong to extremely strong opinions about Iran.
How?
How is it that someone can have a thought that is entirely foreign to their mind, an idea that was "injected" into their conscious/subconscious, but has remained there, and has been accepted as truth, and without being questioned by that individual, has somehow become accepted as an original thought?

Please consider what I have written, and I thank you for reading, I know this is more lengthy than many threads you may be accustomed to here on GLP.

I invite you to share your thoughts, after having read mine. Thank you, I genuinely look forward to reading what you have to say!
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer

The Aircraft in the Photographs will not fly because it is too heavy in the nose,the engines are too small and the propellers are to big,the cumbersome wooden assembly at the front is also weighty and adds to the otherwise weighty frame in all the wrong places. Close but no cigar!
He was on the right track and if that boat had ever gone airborne,Whitehead would have been an instant rock star.
He might have hit a bump at speed and gone airborne for a second or three.
If this guy has original equipment and can get it off the ground ,then he has a claim,until then, nothing!
Aviators say that "If it looks right,it is right!" and that craft does not look right.
Zee Germans have a longstanding worldwide reputation for Over Engineering,it is a tragic genetic issue that was escaped by their migrating tribes to the West, the Angles ,Saxons and Jutes.
The habitual over engineering of the Germans is now reflected in their E.U. Policies and their love of paperwork and regulations throughout the ages.
They do some very innovative technical stuff but the problem is easily represented in this analogy.........
During the Battle of Britain @ 1940/41 (Before the USA was even in that war.) 2 Aircraft became predominant deciders of the future of Planet Earth in a battle over the skies of England, The ME 109 and the Spitfire.
The ME 109 was an Awesome aircraft but it had Twice as many moving parts as the Spitfire !
It was a serious threat,but when it came time to do the maintenance, it took twice as long and the British Spitfire looked like a work of art when it was flying,the ME 109 was just a 'Very good airborne killer'.
The British Spitfire ended up shooting down the Germans at about a 5 to 1 ratio and the Royal Air Force had a policy of selecting artistically inclined individuals with 3 dimensional friendly skill sets,where as the Germans mostly recruited pilots with Blonde hair and wealthy parents.
The inability of Germans to simplify is now reflected throughout Europe's giant monetary clusterf**k and the oncoming repeat of the Weimark Republic episode.
Those are some of my thoughts,I have shared them with you as you requested.
That Aircraft did not fly because the Germans are anal retentive.Too much unnecessary crap!
A Guy in Australia probably did beat the Wright brothers to the goal, but that is another story.