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Blackhawkie's SHTF plan for long term nationwide internet outage - Get shit done - IT networking discussion ONLY

 
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03/18/2013 04:04 PM

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Blackhawkie's SHTF plan for long term nationwide internet outage - Get shit done - IT networking discussion ONLY
Ok dammits Batman is on station. We need more intel and quit fighting back and forth each other.


We need to get this shit done before the shits hits the fans. We may not have that much time. We have a doom date 3/22 coming up.



So far some links posted:

[link to retroshare.sourceforge.net]
[link to project-byzantium.org]
[link to socialvpn.wordpress.com (secure)]
[link to compnetworking.about.com]
[link to projectmeshnet.org (secure)]
[link to www.thelifenetwork.org]

As a IT Network/IT support Major student.... WE need simple instructions how to get this shit taken care of fast. So please stick to the subject title.



sad thing though i dont know how to set any of that up :(

Last Edited by Ranger Batman on 03/18/2013 04:10 PM
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03/26/2013 03:55 AM
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Re: Blackhawkie's SHTF plan for long term nationwide internet outage - Get shit done - IT networking discussion ONLY
If we get another Carrington, it will take down most if not all of these platforms.
Satellites would be fried and the power grid would buckle
Some sort of innovative broadcast , i.e ham radio based internet repeater networks would need to be formed.
HAM operators have extensive emergency power back up so they can broadcast during local/regional disasters.
Regional ham towers, with router based local LAN...
Wired and wireless,using wireless routers as neighborhood repeater stations
IT WOULD BE 56K OLD SCHOOL SLOW, BUT IT WOULD AT LEAST BE SOMETHING.
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An A for starin the discussion and five gold stars, too
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03/26/2013 03:58 AM

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If you are serious you should set up one network in each country. If oversea cables no longer work, many people will be cut of GLP. What do you want to "share" anyway? The links look more like torrent like tools to me at first glance

Last Edited by Face Palmer on 03/26/2013 03:59 AM
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If we get another Carrington, it will take down most if not all of these platforms.
Satellites would be fried and the power grid would buckle
Some sort of innovative broadcast , i.e ham radio based internet repeater networks would need to be formed.
HAM operators have extensive emergency power back up so they can broadcast during local/regional disasters.
Regional ham towers, with router based local LAN...
Wired and wireless,using wireless routers as neighborhood repeater stations
IT WOULD BE 56K OLD SCHOOL SLOW, BUT IT WOULD AT LEAST BE SOMETHING.
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sorry for the ignorant question, but does this also affect hard drives?

so yes the communications would go down but what about the servers? would all the data still be on them and people locally could access it, just none of the websites would be online? there would be no IPs
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sorry for the ignorant question, but does this also affect hard drives?

so yes the communications would go down but what about the servers? would all the data still be on them and people locally could access it, just none of the websites would be online? there would be no IPs
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Yes, you could still access the hard disks on the servers if you have physical access.

BTW: if the internet "goes down" you will, most likely, not be able to connect to your "custom SHTF network" either.

Last Edited by Face Palmer on 03/26/2013 04:03 AM
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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I was debating about this for fun at one point.

One thing to consider is using HAM packet radio, or creating a network of parabolic wifi dishes. (You can get about 20 miles that way) You could do this without any government regulatory issues to my knowledge.

You would need each person to have two dishes (old direct tv dishes could be adapted.) One to receive and one to relay.

Also, likely you would have to create hubs. Which also creates a vulnerability.


Another thing to consider would be creating a new protocol to go with said network as to make it secure. There would be a lot of things considering this, and you'd have to do quite a bit of work to get around the legal problems with this.

There's a lot of fun stuff that could be done.

Ideally what you would want to do is to create a local system first, and then expand upon that.

You could create gateways to the regular internet, but that opens up a few other problems as well.

Be sure to check the law before you start dabbling.

Another one I thought about was extending the range of free city wifi hotspots. That would be simple enough be doing the relay dish trick with someone local that can receive the hotspot signal.

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