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Drudge Breaking: U.S. bombers practicing nuclear strike on North Korea

 
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Why use something as old and clunky as a B-52 when they have Stealth Bombers, Cruise Missiles, and Submarines?
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One does wonder if N.K. has not been quite in development LASER anti-missle tech that would equally be capable of taking down aircraft.. the USA most certainly has that capability as do several other nations now. LASER weapons make almost all obsolete (pre Stealth) vulnerable to LASER weapon strikes, and aircraft do not travel anywhere near as fast as boost stage or re-entry warheads' travel speeds. Also Aircraft as a rule are much bigger...

So, perhaps.. the B-52 is these days very much a sitting duck.. for any nation that has anti-aircraft LASER systems.. the ground based ones can have much more power than the airborne LASER weapons... its time to think the weapons of the 21st Century.. which have not really been revealed just yet.. they constantly say they are 'coming' in a few years, they have been saying that for decades.. who knows that these are not in fact fully deployed now.. and only spoke of or operated by those on a need to know basis, aka Top Secret clearnces.

Given the size of the typical 500Kt nuclear warhead or bomb.. a typical Predator Drone could carry at least one at any time.. a small single engine 'piper cub' type or even a hang glider could carry 5Kt worth of nuclear weapon these days.. . given the carrying load of a standard 757, one could potential carry at least six (or more) standard 500Kt nuclear warhead.. stop thinging the 1950s or 60s as to nuclear weapons.. modern ones are so much smaller and lighter.

Remember, B-29s, B-36s, B-47s, B-58s, and B-52 crews all practiced Atomic Bombing on the soil of the USSR as well as later on China and N.K. Gen MacArthur was trying to get Truman to give the go ahead to use the availble (then) nuclear bombs on N.K. during the 1950-53 Korean War.

Now that N.K. has announced it has called of the armistice or rather cease-fire, anything can happen and it is very smart to re-develope such nuclear forces in possible attacks against N.K.

Strangely we never heard of any USA plans for the carpet nuclear bombings of the U.K., nor France.. or Israle as if those would 'never' go to way against the USA.. and it would be equally as wise to have been doing that too along. Those that are 'friends' can quickly become enemies.

Why use the B-52s? Possibly as 'cannon fodder' as they are getting quite old in the scheme of things, better to go out in a blaze, perhaps... they are now very vulnerable to anti-aircraft ground based LASER weapons.
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Off topic sort of:

Wouldn't it be funny to find out that most of North Korea lives underground in cities and tunnels?

Why else when you look from satellite at night is N. korea basically dark except for a few spots?

We know they have underground bunkers for firing off missiles. Ones they can fire from, then drive to the next location and fire again.

So what if they just have a small population above ground that farms and trades from place to place.

But in reality those farmers are just a front for the BILLIONS that live underground???!!!

Think about it. They are a subterranean culture that lives underground. They are forced to breed a massive army just for war all underground.

That's why they don't want people visiting them much and taking pictures or exploring...They don't want anyone to know that for the last hundred or more years they have just been digging and digging all over the place building underground cities full of people that want to kill everyone else!


Hmmmm. :) probably not but wouldn't that be a revelation?
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That would actually make a lot of sense, and explain why they act so cocky. They probably at least have bunkers for their troops. Before they launch, they'll all run down there and just kick it for a few months and we can't do nothing to them.

What if it's not suicide to launch a nuke at us? That's some scary shit kind of.
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getting close guise :999:
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Off topic sort of:

Wouldn't it be funny to find out that most of North Korea lives underground in cities and tunnels?

Why else when you look from satellite at night is N. korea basically dark except for a few spots?

We know they have underground bunkers for firing off missiles. Ones they can fire from, then drive to the next location and fire again.

So what if they just have a small population above ground that farms and trades from place to place.

But in reality those farmers are just a front for the BILLIONS that live underground???!!!

Think about it. They are a subterranean culture that lives underground. They are forced to breed a massive army just for war all underground.

That's why they don't want people visiting them much and taking pictures or exploring...They don't want anyone to know that for the last hundred or more years they have just been digging and digging all over the place building underground cities full of people that want to kill everyone else!


Hmmmm. :) probably not but wouldn't that be a revelation?
 Quoting: ZEROeffect


That would actually make a lot of sense, and explain why they act so cocky. They probably at least have bunkers for their troops. Before they launch, they'll all run down there and just kick it for a few months and we can't do nothing to them.

What if it's not suicide to launch a nuke at us? That's some scary shit kind of.
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You think their starving country has enough food underground to not only feed their armies for months but then launch an invasion? And they're big enough to store all the heavy equipment they would need? Like tanks and artillery pieces?
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b52 bombers are old school! ww2 style in the house! lol Why don't they use the godspear they hit russia with?
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AWWWsome,,,wait does this mean that mash will be back on primetime trash tv?
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AWWWsome,,,wait does this mean that mash will be back on primetime trash tv?
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Why use something as old and clunky as a B-52 when they have Stealth Bombers, Cruise Missiles, and Submarines?
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Because a Stealth, subs, and Cruise are not OBVIOUS practices to show that the US is poking the bear.

This is blatant antagonism, the US WANTS NK to lose their lid and strike.
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Agreed. And if USA was silly enough to nuke, other nations would retaliate.
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Hell, we paid for NK's military, lets take it.
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Text of Uriminzokkiri video: "White House is within sight of our long-range missiles & stronghold of war within range of an atomic bomb."




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Ok. We have been set up for the kill. News is reporting the North Koreans have at least 6 mobile ICBMs.

Just one of these popped off over the middle of the county could knock out the entire power grid. Military estimates up to 80 percent of the US population would die in the following 3 months from civil disorder and diseases like cholera.

This is 60 seconds to midnight... Top off your water stocks. Keep your gas tank full. This shit could go down with no warning.
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Sheesh ... get real.

The US existed for a LONG time before all the modern conveniences ... and while a EMP could do some big short term damage it would NOT cause 80% of the US population to die, directly OR INDIRECTLY.

Your comments sound like those that some were bantering about prior to Y2k ... and is just as much an exageration as those comments were back then.
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Actually reading it.....it was a training mission over South Korea
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American aggression
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Sounds like this movie: [link to www.imdb.com]

I did watch it and yes they mention a lot.
Not the greatest movie but interesting how it fits with this article.
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I'd assume the B52s would release nuclear cruise missiles near the NK border. They don't need to enter the countries air space.

If retaliation is required, it gives an option that avoids ICBMs in the air. Its best not to risk Russia or China mistaking our ICBM launches for an attack. B52 launched cruise missiles avoid that danger.
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Maybe the low tech fly by was just a slap to there face? Maybe using the high/secret tech would show that the NK is not really a threat? Nothing is as it seems.
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Ok. We have been set up for the kill. News is reporting the North Koreans have at least 6 mobile ICBMs.

Just one of these popped off over the middle of the county could knock out the entire power grid. Military estimates up to 80 percent of the US population would die in the following 3 months from civil disorder and diseases like cholera.

This is 60 seconds to midnight... Top off your water stocks. Keep your gas tank full. This shit could go down with no warning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29992561


Sheesh ... get real.

The US existed for a LONG time before all the modern conveniences ... and while a EMP could do some big short term damage it would NOT cause 80% of the US population to die, directly OR INDIRECTLY.

Your comments sound like those that some were bantering about prior to Y2k ... and is just as much an exageration as those comments were back then.
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empeffect

you need to do some serious reading up on EMPs.
Y2K was a 'theorized' what-if scenario...
EMPs' effects are well-documented.
If we got hit, the after-effects are too far to list...and while the previously mentioned numbers DO seem a bit harsh....50-60 % depopulation would be a very likely scenario.
An EMP wouldn't just knock out most all electronics permanently, but also say bye bye to all cars made after the 60's...everyone with pacemakers, no running water after the gravity fed supplies from water towers are emptied...no food deliveries to markets...no medicine deliveries to pharmacies...no heat, no air conditioning....once the stores are mobbed and the canned food supply runs out, can you hunt for food and feed your family?
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Why use something as old and clunky as a B-52 when they have Stealth Bombers, Cruise Missiles, and Submarines?
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Because a Stealth, subs, and Cruise are not OBVIOUS practices to show that the US is poking the bear.

This is blatant antagonism, the US WANTS NK to lose their lid and strike.
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Agreed. And if USA was silly enough to nuke, other nations would retaliate.
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There ya go, the US wants NK to be the first one to push the button, that is the result ot the agenda at hand - coerced retalitation.
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That's insane, no more NUKES - let's just get one of those force field domes from the Battleship movie and put it over NK - problem solved!

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Why use something as old and clunky as a B-52 when they have Stealth Bombers, Cruise Missiles, and Submarines?
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You've obviously have never had B-52's fly over your head... It makes little popcorn poops pop out into your underpants!
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Why use something as old and clunky as a B-52 when they have Stealth Bombers, Cruise Missiles, and Submarines?
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And the terrain-following cruise missiles are not subject to GPS hijacking/jamming. I'm more worried about devices hidden in shipping containers on the east/west coasts and Gulf ports being detonated at the same time. Probably during the next installment of "The Bible" if Obama has anything to say about it.
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The Pentagon on Friday announced it would increase the number of ground-based missile defense interceptors in Alaska and California based on new intelligence indicating North Korea has deployed a road-mobile intercontinental ballistic missile called the KN-08. ://freebeacon.com/practice-run/
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b52 bombers are old school! ww2 style in the house! lol Why don't they use the godspear they hit russia with?
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too risky

exotic tech is best used, during war when the enemy doesn't have the time to fully understand what's killing them.

Believe me in time

All that black project stuff we blew Billions on is just itchin to rise out of the fog.
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Why use something as old and clunky as a B-52 when they have Stealth Bombers, Cruise Missiles, and Submarines?
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I'll wager a guess and say that the use of the B-52 in this psyop is a deliberate reference to the bombing campaign 1950-1953. The US used B-52s to drop over 600,000 TONS of ordnance, including about 30,000 TONS of napalm, destroying 78 cities.

If you make a direct one to one comparison in RE to nuclear (i.e. the old "kilotons of TNT"), then that is the equivalent of about 40 Hiroshimas! Keep in mind also that with incendiary ordnance, the RE is higher. If you read the Strategic Bombing Survey, they quote the Hiroshima bomb being the equivalent of 1200 tons of incendiary, 400 tons of HE and about 200 tons of anti-personell ordnance. I take this to mean that standard incendiary ordnance (thermobaric, napalm, etc) has much higher RE that is not quoted elsewhere in literature, which makes sense since it uses the oxygen in the air instead of using a self contained oxidizer. RE for incendieary is about 8:1 (8 times more effective as TNT).
Anyway there are some conventional explosives they have now that have an RE that high, so god knows what the incendiary/thermobaric RE is for modern stuff (40-1 I heard).

Anwyay thats the long winded jist.
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Why use something as old and clunky as a B-52 when they have Stealth Bombers, Cruise Missiles, and Submarines?
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They were trying to provoke the North Koreans into shooting these relics down to make the case for war.

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Why use something as old and clunky as a B-52 when they have Stealth Bombers, Cruise Missiles, and Submarines?
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Because the B-52 is a very effective bomber that can carry quite a large payload, conventional or nuclear. It's a seriously combat proven aircraft and has a place in even modern combat. And with the B-52's upgraded, they have a huge array of electronic warfare capability and defenses which has made it even more effective. It's cheaper than the B-2 bomber and is just as capable at striking targets.

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