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$22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.

 
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I built a small Hot Dog restaurant Chain. Utilizing this newly proposed minimum wage, and based on my average sale's per restaurant (8 total), and average staff personnel per shift.

A regular hot dog would cost You $10.35

Fries & a drink cost extra $1.99

A Regular Combo meal would cost $12.39

Now bring Your Wife and 2.3 Kids for a quick meal and you have $49.54 for Lunch

Are you certain you want such a high minimum wage?

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Haha... Hot Dog Stand. That's no different then Mexicans selling oranges on a freeway off ramp.
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Here is a phenomena I have noticed; the night crew around GLP is more of the liberal socialist variety, when the sun rises they go to bed and the real thinkers and doers who get things done come on.

That is just a generality not considering overseas people who are on entirely different time schedules.

Like 36041894 I have held jobs where I would be held responsible for error. The morons are the ones who come to you for direction.


Heck let's make it $100/hr, no, no, make it $500/hr and we'll all be rich
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that is what the lawyers make

so why not others
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because they did not go to school for 8 years to specialize in a certain profession.

Unskilled slobbering is not a profession and does NOT deserve 100 an hour.

I make 100 an hour and work in an environment where peoples lives depend on the fact i get it right the first time.. i am one of the few professionals who WILL be charged criminally if i fuck up.

I expect others making as much to have as much on the line.
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In What Year??

Your Union starting pay was $14 Hr... DOUBLE the minimun becuase YOU were in a UNION.

My point EXACTLY.



I was in a union.. we made better money than the other shops around the area, hell, because of my get it done attitude they even made me a shop steward. Things were real peachy for just over a year until the union went back after the company for MORE!

The company could not afford it.. they told the union that.

the union insisted... the company shut down because they could not pay the bills on what was left after the union fed at the trough.

No one else would hire any of us in the area because they were afraid we would organize there as well.

So in sum total.. I worked for about a year and nine months making decent money.. and spent four years unemployed because of the union.

Fuck you union assholes.

I have found in the last 25 years.. if I make myself valuable to an employer they will pay my asking price.. if you are not valuable it is your fault.
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I manage a factory where workers are paid between 24 and 26$ per hour. I've never seen a lazier bunch of whiny people anywhere. We have a few that are star performers, but most expect to do little and get paid.
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But the average JOE does not get HIGH that of a SALARY... this is simply un-fair. Either LOWER the UNIONS or BRING UP EVERYONE ELSE. Just my idea.

You will always have slackers..

I manage a factory where workers are paid between 24 and 26$ per hour. I've never seen a lazier bunch of whiny people anywhere. We have a few that are star performers, but most expect to do little and get paid.
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Pelosi: Food Stamps and Unemployment Give ‘Biggest Bang for Our Buck’
October 7, 2010
By Lonely Conservative

Nancy Pelosi proudly defended the welfare party.

CNN: At a press conference in her home town of San Francisco, Pelosi explained that the program’s multiplier effect –the amount of money generated in the local economy as the result of the subsidy– far exceeds the nearly $60 billion spent this year by the federal government and is a sure-fire way to stimulate the economy. For every dollar a person receives in food stamps, Pelosi said that $1.79 is put back into the economy. The U.S. Department of Agriculture cites an even higher figure of $1.84.

“It is the biggest bang for the buck when you do food stamps and unemployment insurance. The biggest bang for the buck,” she said.

Why stop at $22 to $33? If that's so good then $70 should be GREAT! Full employment here we come!
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This stuff is getting old. Just one more way to bankrupt small businesses. They will get this passed....THEN, big corporations will file for exemption to this law. Lies, lies, and more lies..LOL
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too lazy to read, but this must be a joke, right?
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I really am baffled at how anyone can think this is a good idea!

Do you not even have a BASIC understanding of economics?

Do you know how many small businesses that could not afford to operate?

Do you have any concept of how high the price of food and goods would be?
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You know.... the Unions get it.... and the CEO's get it... I say it is time for EVERYONE to get it.

I own a small business... and I pay $25.00 hour to my staff. They work very hard for me... and help me MAKE MOENY... they ARE WORTH IT..... it is simply the COST of doing business...
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A cost which you absorb...or pass along to your customer? I'd be interested in knowing what sort of small business you operate.

Are you paying $25 plus benefits? Such a story just about defies logic. Surely you aren't able to offer as competetive prices as other similar businesses.

Please, do share, unless you're just here to stir the pot.
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Seattle is an obongo union shill on the troll to help Pocahontas Warren bring the total destruction...forward.
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I do NOT Support OBama.... and I own a business.. so NO I have never been in any UNION..... Geeeewizzzz...... smile.

Seattle is an obongo union shill on the troll to help Pocahontas Warren bring the total destruction...forward.
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That will spell ECONOMIC DOOM....

Ohh by the way...do you pay for their healthcare too?


Maybe if you had thousands of employees...you couldn't afford that increase...

The country can not afford minimum wage to be even $10...

Don't get me wrong...I'm a share the wealth guy when it comes to keeping good employees....

Nobody makes more money than WALMART... Why don't they pay their employees more and give them healthcare?

They don't give a FUCK...CORPORATE GREED RULES THIS COUNTRY...NOT GUYS LIKE YOU... iamwith

BREAD would cost $30 a loaf along with the rest of the food...INFLATION would kill us...
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Explain why you can still get a decent loaf of bread in Australia for $2.99 a loaf. Same price as the USA. WHEN THEIR MINIMUM WAGE IS $16/hr.

You even have those $0.99 loafs there for some cheap shit. Same as the USA.


By all means their bread should be $8-9/loaf if what you were saying was true. But it isn't fucking true. And you're either fucking ignorant to the reality that technology has made most industries labor costs 10% of the cost of doing business or you're a greedy fucking business owner that thinks that people are meant to be used and thrown away because you're superior to them. Either way things are goin to fucking change and you're not gonna like it.
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Yes I do. Public good be damned. I don't have to share my knowledge or my wealth with you. Technology is a wonderful thing that is quickly eliminating unions and any need for minimum wage as manufacturing is quickly replacing labor with robotics. It's people like you, the looter, that makes people like us, the producer, more sinister to keep you away.

So good luck with your "change" because without those "greedy fucking business owners", you wouldn't have shit.
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Yes 22 a hour and a cheeseburger not a quarter pounder but a cheeseburger will cost 20 bucks
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well thats one way to get obesity to go down besides mcds is gross
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Americans have been living Waaaaaayyy above their standards for the last 4 decades.

I guess a Chinese making electronic toys will also make 22-33$? Cause they deserve it, right?

Oh no.... they're not Americans but we still buy their crap.
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Cool. The people I have to lay off who don't have positions who generate that kind of revenue can work for you and make you lots more money.


I was worried about them for a minute.


Obama will also appreciate your tax matching.

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I really am baffled at how anyone can think this is a good idea!

Do you not even have a BASIC understanding of economics?

Do you know how many small businesses that could not afford to operate?

Do you have any concept of how high the price of food and goods would be?
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Don't forget, that wage increase is more than what the small business owners even make. I love how people think that if you own a business, you're immediately a millionaire.
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You know.... the Unions get it.... and the CEO's get it... I say it is time for EVERYONE to get it.

I own a small business... and I pay $25.00 hour to my staff. They work very hard for me... and help me MAKE MOENY... they ARE WORTH IT..... it is simply the COST of doing business...

Even though I am an independent... this is something I can wrap my support around.

You know... my business is still a BIG Success even in a bad economy... and I say... spread the wealth around...

Also... it is an inner projection that there is ALWAYS PLENTY for everyone... I don't live from a place of LACK so my staff does NOT LACK what they need to do their job.... or support thier personal dreams.

of course.. I only have a very small staff of 5.. so you can make an argument that I am TOO SMALL to count... Smile.

As you GIVE to your staff... people who work for you SUPPORT your VISIONS and DREAMS with their love and energy.. so it is a WIN WIN!.

Smile.

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America’s 3.6 million minimum-wage workers will get a nearly 40 percent pay raise, if Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, has his way


Elizabeth Warren: Minimum Wage Would Be $22 An Hour If It Had Kept Up With Productivity

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Seattle88

No matter what amount it is set at most people will not see a long term difference in lifestyle. Everything will go up in price to offset this.
The only way this would help is if there was some sort of pricing freeze included.
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Lol $22 an hour to flip burgers? Get the fuck outta here.
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Sure, why not?
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Just a step to get to the point where everyone pays millionaire taxes,

This is just another tax increase
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This post is bs. that would crash the economy sooo fast! It would cost a million bucks for a gallon of milk. fools
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the very ones that want to crash and loot the nation are the ones for this suicidal plan.
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03/19/2013 07:17 AM
So good luck with your "change" because without those "greedy fucking business owners", you wouldn't have shit.
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Lol $22 an hour to flip burgers? Get the fuck outta here.
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Sure, why not?
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The burger flippers are doing more for the future of the company than some rich shitbag that inherited his dead daddies money, bought the business, does nothing and sucks the life from the workers.
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Won't really matter much now will it.... if a loaf of bread cost $50 ?!?!?!
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I built a small Hot Dog restaurant Chain. Utilizing this newly proposed minimum wage, and based on my average sale's per restaurant (8 total), and average staff personnel per shift.

A regular hot dog would cost You $10.35

Fries & a drink cost extra $1.99

A Regular Combo meal would cost $12.39

Now bring Your Wife and 2.3 Kids for a quick meal and you have $49.54 for Lunch

Are you certain you want such a high minimum wage?

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Here in Houston a combo anything is about $10 average.
So that's not that much difference.

Problem is, it would be higher than that,
it wont matter what they raise it to.
Prices of everything else would raise to compensate for it.
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Minimum wage is not the problem.

The problem is companies trying to extract the most profit out of their operations.

Instead of a minimum wage, we should establish a maximum profit.

Why?

You can make minimum wage whatever you want. If you make it 25 dollars, Coca-Cola will raise the price of Coca Cola to 4 dollars per 16 oz. Why? You can afford it now. You want it and you have the money. Also, everyone in the chain is being paid more, so Coca-Colas cost from concept to consumer also goes up.

Nobody really wins.

However, leave Minimum wage where it is and cap profits of corporations or even small businesses to a certain percentage, and therefore force the abundance to be distributed to workers as bonuses and incentives, or to pay overtime...to benefit the worker rather than blow it on acquisitions or endless advertisements etc.

This gives the workers more money to better the economy and keeps business honest and caps on greed.
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You know.... the Unions get it.... and the CEO's get it... I say it is time for EVERYONE to get it.

I own a small business... and I pay $25.00 hour to my staff. They work very hard for me... and help me MAKE MOENY... they ARE WORTH IT..... it is simply the COST of doing business...

Even though I am an independent... this is something I can wrap my support around.

You know... my business is still a BIG Success even in a bad economy... and I say... spread the wealth around...

Also... it is an inner projection that there is ALWAYS PLENTY for everyone... I don't live from a place of LACK so my staff does NOT LACK what they need to do their job.... or support thier personal dreams.

of course.. I only have a very small staff of 5.. so you can make an argument that I am TOO SMALL to count... Smile.

As you GIVE to your staff... people who work for you SUPPORT your VISIONS and DREAMS with their love and energy.. so it is a WIN WIN!.

Smile.

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America’s 3.6 million minimum-wage workers will get a nearly 40 percent pay raise, if Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, has his way


Elizabeth Warren: Minimum Wage Would Be $22 An Hour If It Had Kept Up With Productivity

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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BTW OP that would be a over a 300% increase
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Minimum wage is not the problem.

The problem is companies trying to extract the most profit out of their operations.

Instead of a minimum wage, we should establish a maximum profit.

Why?

You can make minimum wage whatever you want. If you make it 25 dollars, Coca-Cola will raise the price of Coca Cola to 4 dollars per 16 oz. Why? You can afford it now. You want it and you have the money. Also, everyone in the chain is being paid more, so Coca-Colas cost from concept to consumer also goes up.

Nobody really wins.

However, leave Minimum wage where it is and cap profits of corporations or even small businesses to a certain percentage, and therefore force the abundance to be distributed to workers as bonuses and incentives, or to pay overtime...to benefit the worker rather than blow it on acquisitions or endless advertisements etc.

This gives the workers more money to better the economy and keeps business honest and caps on greed.
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That is the dumbest idea ever.
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I own a small business... and I pay $25.00 hour to my staff. They work very hard for me... and help me MAKE MOENY... they ARE WORTH IT..... it is simply the COST of doing business...

Smile.

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