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$22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.

 
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Salary Cap. End of argument.

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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
That is the dumbest idea ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


No workers = No Products, NO service
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


No business owners, means no jobs for workers and no products whatsoever. What's your point? Trust me, there is no shortage of workers nor are they going to stop working. However, there is a shortage of business owners that will offer you jobs and they have the power to just quit, then you'll have absolutely nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


What is the goal of a business owner...to take their money and turn it into more money, yes?

What is the goal of a worker? To help the business owner make money and make their own living in the process.

The business owner has lost sight of the symbiotic nature of the arrangement and designs to keep more than their fair share of their return on investment.

There comes a point where owners and CEO's and executives have more than they need and yet they will stop at nothing to have even more while their workers live in rent controlled apartments and eat Top Ramen so the CEO can have a third yacht and a private jet.

And YOU are here trying to argue that that's okay, and if we fight against it well, they'll just stop providing jobs at all.

You're a fucker, and there's nothing more to say to someone like you except that you are the enemy and should be treated as such.
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This is pure truth.
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
That will spell ECONOMIC DOOM....

Ohh by the way...do you pay for their healthcare too?


Maybe if you had thousands of employees...you couldn't afford that increase...

The country can not afford minimum wage to be even $10...

Don't get me wrong...I'm a share the wealth guy when it comes to keeping good employees....

Nobody makes more money than WALMART... Why don't they pay their employees more and give them healthcare?

They don't give a FUCK...CORPORATE GREED RULES THIS COUNTRY...NOT GUYS LIKE YOU... iamwith

BREAD would cost $30 a loaf along with the rest of the food...INFLATION would kill us...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


Explain why you can still get a decent loaf of bread in Australia for $2.99 a loaf. Same price as the USA. WHEN THEIR MINIMUM WAGE IS $16/hr.

You even have those $0.99 loafs there for some cheap shit. Same as the USA.


By all means their bread should be $8-9/loaf if what you were saying was true. But it isn't fucking true. And you're either fucking ignorant to the reality that technology has made most industries labor costs 10% of the cost of doing business or you're a greedy fucking business owner that thinks that people are meant to be used and thrown away because you're superior to them. Either way things are goin to fucking change and you're not gonna like it.

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ATTN: All Retards

Salary Cap. End of argument.

Thread: SALARY CAP! DO IT NOW!
 Quoting: Eunuchorn 25511314


I have a better idea.

End the fvckin Matrix !!!

and get your freedom back
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
Mandatory minimum wages are typical Authoritarian, Communitarian, Communist, Socialist, Totalitarian clap trap. What if an Individual wants to work for $5/hr?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19530451


Or wants to work for free
for a time to see if they mesh well with the job? People should be able to work for what they and the boss agree on. It should be no one else's business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


lmao You're both nuts!
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Lol $22 an hour to flip burgers? Get the fuck outta here.
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Sure, why not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


The burger flippers are doing more for the future of the company than some rich shitbag that inherited his dead daddies money, bought the business, does nothing and sucks the life from the workers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24355804


Exactly.
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
Minimum wage is not the problem.

The problem is companies trying to extract the most profit out of their operations.

Instead of a minimum wage, we should establish a maximum profit.

Why?

You can make minimum wage whatever you want. If you make it 25 dollars, Coca-Cola will raise the price of Coca Cola to 4 dollars per 16 oz. Why? You can afford it now. You want it and you have the money. Also, everyone in the chain is being paid more, so Coca-Colas cost from concept to consumer also goes up.

Nobody really wins.

However, leave Minimum wage where it is and cap profits of corporations or even small businesses to a certain percentage, and therefore force the abundance to be distributed to workers as bonuses and incentives, or to pay overtime...to benefit the worker rather than blow it on acquisitions or endless advertisements etc.

This gives the workers more money to better the economy and keeps business honest and caps on greed.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Great idea! Goofy Thum
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
Minimum wage is not the problem.

The problem is companies trying to extract the most profit out of their operations.

Instead of a minimum wage, we should establish a maximum profit.

Why?

You can make minimum wage whatever you want. If you make it 25 dollars, Coca-Cola will raise the price of Coca Cola to 4 dollars per 16 oz. Why? You can afford it now. You want it and you have the money. Also, everyone in the chain is being paid more, so Coca-Colas cost from concept to consumer also goes up.

Nobody really wins.

However, leave Minimum wage where it is and cap profits of corporations or even small businesses to a certain percentage, and therefore force the abundance to be distributed to workers as bonuses and incentives, or to pay overtime...to benefit the worker rather than blow it on acquisitions or endless advertisements etc.

This gives the workers more money to better the economy and keeps business honest and caps on greed.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Great idea! Goofy Thum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


lmao
and you think that will work ??
hahahaha

they will just hide their profits
by setting up hundreds of dummy
corporations which all have the same
CEO's

wake up people.

end the fvckin Matrix.
it's the only way.
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lmao
and you think that will work ??
hahahaha

they will just hide their profits
by setting up hundreds of dummy
corporations which all have the same
CEO's

wake up people.

end the fvckin Matrix.
it's the only way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36495568


It will only fail if we don't hold them accountible.

Any company's financials should be transparent and available for any worker to inspect.

Afterall, it is a worker's right not to work for criminals.
:ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd:
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It will only fail if we don't hold them accountible.

Any company's financials should be transparent and available for any worker to inspect.

Afterall, it is a worker's right not to work for criminals.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


that would only work if ALL CEO's
were honest and truthful.

look around, they aren't.

Besides they are still using
the debt slave currency created
out of thin air by criminal bankers.

End the Matrix.
It's the only way.
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
Minimum wage is not the problem.

The problem is companies trying to extract the most profit out of their operations.

Instead of a minimum wage, we should establish a maximum profit.

Why?

You can make minimum wage whatever you want. If you make it 25 dollars, Coca-Cola will raise the price of Coca Cola to 4 dollars per 16 oz. Why? You can afford it now. You want it and you have the money. Also, everyone in the chain is being paid more, so Coca-Colas cost from concept to consumer also goes up.

Nobody really wins.

However, leave Minimum wage where it is and cap profits of corporations or even small businesses to a certain percentage, and therefore force the abundance to be distributed to workers as bonuses and incentives, or to pay overtime...to benefit the worker rather than blow it on acquisitions or endless advertisements etc.

This gives the workers more money to better the economy and keeps business honest and caps on greed.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Great idea! Goofy Thum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


lmao
and you think that will work ??
hahahaha

they will just hide their profits
by setting up hundreds of dummy
corporations which all have the same
CEO's


wake up people.

end the fvckin Matrix.
it's the only way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36495568


They already do ^that^ that's how I literally got robbed by corporate thieves, of thousands of my own hard earned dollars.

So then please explain how to end the matrix?
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
Minimum wage is not the problem.

The problem is companies trying to extract the most profit out of their operations.

Instead of a minimum wage, we should establish a maximum profit.

Why?

You can make minimum wage whatever you want. If you make it 25 dollars, Coca-Cola will raise the price of Coca Cola to 4 dollars per 16 oz. Why? You can afford it now. You want it and you have the money. Also, everyone in the chain is being paid more, so Coca-Colas cost from concept to consumer also goes up.

Nobody really wins.

However, leave Minimum wage where it is and cap profits of corporations or even small businesses to a certain percentage, and therefore force the abundance to be distributed to workers as bonuses and incentives, or to pay overtime...to benefit the worker rather than blow it on acquisitions or endless advertisements etc.

This gives the workers more money to better the economy and keeps business honest and caps on greed.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Great idea! Goofy Thum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


lmao
and you think that will work ??
hahahaha

they will just hide their profits
by setting up hundreds of dummy
corporations which all have the same
CEO's


wake up people.

end the fvckin Matrix.
it's the only way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36495568


They already do ^that^ that's how I literally got robbed by corporate thieves, of thousands of my own hard earned dollars.

So then please explain how to end the matrix?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


The corporations need more regulations against them so they don't screw over and steal from others, that's how to "end the matrix"
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
The corporations need more regulations against them so they don't screw over and steal from others, that's how to "end the matrix"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


you people are chasing your tail
in circles.

it's not the corporations that are the
control mechanism of your Matrix.

it is twofold:

1) Monetary
2) Religion

this is the very same system that
Rome set-up with the Roman Empire
and it still exist today hidden beneath
many layers of bullshit.

once you end the monetary and religion,
corporations will fall on their own
with no working capital to conduct
operations and pay employees.

so attacking corporations will do
absolutely nothing to stop the Matrix.
They will just assume another identity
and conduct business as usual.
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Great idea! Goofy Thum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


lmao
and you think that will work ??
hahahaha

they will just hide their profits
by setting up hundreds of dummy
corporations which all have the same
CEO's


wake up people.

end the fvckin Matrix.
it's the only way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36495568


They already do ^that^ that's how I literally got robbed by corporate thieves, of thousands of my own hard earned dollars.

So then please explain how to end the matrix?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


The corporations need more regulations against them so they don't screw over and steal from others, that's how to "end the matrix"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


sorry but government isnt the answer.

they are already working together after all.

the responibility falls on you and me.
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sorry but government isnt the answer.

they are already working together after all.

the responsibility falls on you and me.
 Quoting: Oyster


Oyster
you are correct.
It does fall on us.

a World Revolution is the key
to end the Matrix.
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lmao
and you think that will work ??
hahahaha

they will just hide their profits
by setting up hundreds of dummy
corporations which all have the same
CEO's


wake up people.

end the fvckin Matrix.
it's the only way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36495568


They already do ^that^ that's how I literally got robbed by corporate thieves, of thousands of my own hard earned dollars.

So then please explain how to end the matrix?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


The corporations need more regulations against them so they don't screw over and steal from others, that's how to "end the matrix"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


sorry but government isnt the answer.

they are already working together after all.

the responibility falls on you and me.
 Quoting: Oyster


I don't agree, responsibility needs to be imposed on corporations. If there were stricter laws against the asshole that took my $30K by finagling corporate loopholes around a consumer law that already told him to refund my $30K back, might feel differently. Right now corporations can do just about anything they want and get away with it.

Why rob a bank, when you can just start a corporation or 2 or 3, 4, and on and on etc., rob countless people by rearranging paperwork, and call it "profit". Sorry, corporations cannot be trusted to do the right thing. I'm all for Gov making new laws regulating corporations. Ending corporate "personhood" is a damn good start.
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
In the UK $22+ DOLLARS is a very very good hourly wage. The idea of that being minimum wage here is ludicrous.

Id have piles of money everywhere if i was on that much money as my outgoings are probably not even 25-30% of that.

Its more than policemen/firemen/pharmacist and jr doctor wages here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35390350


That surprises me...I thought the cost of living in the UK was very high, how do you survive on 25-30% of that? I feel very fortunate to work for a dairy company that treats employees very well, $23 an hour to work in the plant, to start when you get full time
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
You know.... the Unions get it.... and the CEO's get it... I say it is time for EVERYONE to get it.

I own a small business... and I pay $25.00 hour to my staff. They work very hard for me... and help me MAKE MOENY... they ARE WORTH IT..... it is simply the COST of doing business...

Even though I am an independent... this is something I can wrap my support around.

You know... my business is still a BIG Success even in a bad economy... and I say... spread the wealth around...

Also... it is an inner projection that there is ALWAYS PLENTY for everyone... I don't live from a place of LACK so my staff does NOT LACK what they need to do their job.... or support thier personal dreams.

of course.. I only have a very small staff of 5.. so you can make an argument that I am TOO SMALL to count... Smile.

As you GIVE to your staff... people who work for you SUPPORT your VISIONS and DREAMS with their love and energy.. so it is a WIN WIN!.

Smile.

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America’s 3.6 million minimum-wage workers will get a nearly 40 percent pay raise, if Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, has his way


Elizabeth Warren: Minimum Wage Would Be $22 An Hour If It Had Kept Up With Productivity

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Seattle88


I dunno about that high but if I made 12-15 an hour I could actually afford to buy something other than food and rent. I can pay electricity most of the time but sometimes I just have to let it go, would rather feed myself than be able to see in the dark.
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You know.... the Unions get it.... and the CEO's get it... I say it is time for EVERYONE to get it.

I own a small business... and I pay $25.00 hour to my staff. They work very hard for me... and help me MAKE MOENY... they ARE WORTH IT..... it is simply the COST of doing business...

Even though I am an independent... this is something I can wrap my support around.

You know... my business is still a BIG Success even in a bad economy... and I say... spread the wealth around...

Also... it is an inner projection that there is ALWAYS PLENTY for everyone... I don't live from a place of LACK so my staff does NOT LACK what they need to do their job.... or support thier personal dreams.

of course.. I only have a very small staff of 5.. so you can make an argument that I am TOO SMALL to count... Smile.

As you GIVE to your staff... people who work for you SUPPORT your VISIONS and DREAMS with their love and energy.. so it is a WIN WIN!.

Smile.

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America’s 3.6 million minimum-wage workers will get a nearly 40 percent pay raise, if Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, has his way


Elizabeth Warren: Minimum Wage Would Be $22 An Hour If It Had Kept Up With Productivity

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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stfustfustfu you ignorant fuck
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This is not a good idea because there would not be enough jobs to go around if this happened.
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
Why are there even corporations to begin with?

All these titles and pedigress to make a Widget just a smokescreen to hide behind.

How about if you want to make something just make it and focus on that and let it be it's own reward on it's own merits.

I don't need the people who make Coca Cola to own a movie studio and a processed food subsidiary. I don't even need them to make juice. They want to make other soft drinks? Okay.

Stop all of this super-octopus mega corp bullshit and keep it simple and ACCOUNTIBLE and transparent.
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