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$22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.

 
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It does not matter how many zeros you put at the end of that wage. The underlying debt must still be paid with the labor and productivity of men in an unchanging unit quantity.

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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
OP claimed he was a time traveler from the year 2020. Maybe we should listen to him? Lol
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keep in mind that there are a ton of people on this site participating in role-play. it is clearly said in the website disclaimer. if you believe that OP believes he is a time traveler then...well...that is your problem.

that being said, OP's heart is in the right place. raising min wage that high isnt the answer. but we do need to figure out a way to get less money in corporations pockets and into the hands of small business owners.
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
while the digits will change over time with manipulation through the financial elites, the relative amount of time required to earn a voluntary trade of service for service or its equivalent tends to stay the same, and the more specialized and demanding the task the greater the value of that activity gets.
IF anyone can do it, it doesnt tend to pay so well.
That's how thing are on this planet, and just like water going downhill, it wont tolerate any change for long
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You guys like to BITCH about it... and not do anyting ... this is ONE WAY to start the balance of money... but as you can ALL SEE CLEARY... you have too many issues.... excuses... REASON .... that say NO NO NO NO NO...

so.. you have earned the RIGHT to NEVER AGAIN COMPLAIN About it..... because YOU TRULY DO NOT Support any equality in your income.

It is CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED here.




I feel you Seattle 88, drop me a hint as to where you are loccated, and I will work for you for $20.00 an hour from Eastside. Ready to go. Papers in hand, no need to frustrate anymore. Drop a hint I will contact your place of service.

I know you have to go to work so will tell you what I will do, I will post an ad on Craigslist under "business for sale."

It will say, "Tech support business for sale for $25k." You respond and identify yourself then I will check out your place of service. This will be so great. You will see, all the posers who frustrated you here on this site will evaporate and you will be blessed with a contract employee supporting your service on the Eastside. Godspeed.
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OP claimed he was a time traveler from the year 2020. Maybe we should listen to him? Lol
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keep in mind that there are a ton of people on this site participating in role-play. it is clearly said in the website disclaimer. if you believe that OP believes he is a time traveler then...well...that is your problem.

that being said, OP's heart is in the right place. raising min wage that high isnt the answer. but we do need to figure out a way to get less money in corporations pockets and into the hands of small business owners.
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OMG sarcasm much?
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
Sounds like a recipe for hyperinflation to me.
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
How do you think the BILLIONAIRS GET PAID?

You all CURSE the WEALTHY???

The 1% have Value as so do you?? and NO NO NO ... I am HARDLY a 1%... but I do have a lovely life.

IT does NOT take MILLIONS to have a lovely life.

NAME IT.... jump out of your box... ONE STEP AT A TIME.

I started at $1.65 hr in th 70's. I make $1,000 hr now Gross before expenses. You tell me who is the idiot here.

It was NOT Instantly... it was step by step... and a great passion to have FREEDOM...

I am a very very small business owner. I work PART TIME 3 days a week. I am in my 60's slowing down now.

I have already turned one business over to my family for FREE... they are all doing quite well.

My family is not waiting until my DEATH to TASTE the fruit of my labor... they have it now.

So... you guys can curse me and name call all you like. I have PROVEN what I know to be true by my LIFE EXPEREINCES.


The op doesnt understand the meaning of a whole lot of words he uses, which is so very typical of sloppy thinking progressives who want to solve things simply with changing definitions of words to whatever they need at the moment, including the word 'earn', assuming that if one extorts unearned value for their involvement which doesnt actually provide those wages that it is nevertheless 'earned' as decreed thanks to an otherwise uninvolved third party which itself profits due to it.

You 'earn' 33 dollars only if you actually generate at least 33 dollars of profit.

Earning and extortion are different, and the differences arent clear, then get a dictionary and educate yourself
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$22/hour? Way too much of a hike. Realistically, the minimum wage should be around $14/hour in the US. $7/hour or $8/hour is such a scam for managers and shareholders to get a higher profit by cutting labour expense while inflation goes up and up and up.. People should also be paid more if they don't receive benefits.
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sadly it seems all thing must end.

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. "
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OP claimed he was a time traveler from the year 2020. Maybe we should listen to him? Lol
 Quoting: SteveWutabi


keep in mind that there are a ton of people on this site participating in role-play. it is clearly said in the website disclaimer. if you believe that OP believes he is a time traveler then...well...that is your problem.

that being said, OP's heart is in the right place. raising min wage that high isnt the answer. but we do need to figure out a way to get less money in corporations pockets and into the hands of small business owners.
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OMG sarcasm much?
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sorry i misread your post. there have been a dozen post about OP's time traveler threads as a way of discrediting him.
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IT would not be INSTANTLY... it would be over 10 years.

$22/hour? Way too much of a hike. Realistically, the minimum wage should be around $14/hour in the US. $7/hour or $8/hour is such a scam for managers and shareholders to get a higher profit by cutting labour expense while inflation goes up and up and up.. People should also be paid more if they don't receive benefits.
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You guys are NUTS... I am NOT a TIME TRAVELER... I am not a man...

OP claimed he was a time traveler from the year 2020. Maybe we should listen to him? Lol
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keep in mind that there are a ton of people on this site participating in role-play. it is clearly said in the website disclaimer. if you believe that OP believes he is a time traveler then...well...that is your problem.

that being said, OP's heart is in the right place. raising min wage that high isnt the answer. but we do need to figure out a way to get less money in corporations pockets and into the hands of small business owners.
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OMG sarcasm much?
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sorry i misread your post. there have been a dozen post about OP's time traveler threads as a way of discrediting him.
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Fixing the World's economic problems... One dumbass thread at a time.
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Seattle88 you have a lot of great views, i would like to email you or a least know what you do. It is imptessive how much you care about your employee. Bless you.
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Every time minimum wage goes up, all the fast food prices around here raise their prices. Sure the minimum wage people got a raise, and the union people get raises. But us white collar workers only get the shaft. But it hits the poor minimum wage worker harder because since they are making more, uncle sugar is taxing them more. Plus prices go up, but keep living in your fantasy land where the textbook cases say this doesn't happen!!!

norespect
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I'm assuming I talked myself out of a $25 minimum wage level job with your company. Dammit!
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Re: $22 to $33 Hr - Minimun Wage Coming soon..... Senator Warren - Hope it passes... we need it.
ACT LOCALLY... YOU.... FIRST.... Your home... and family.

Leave the GLOBAL Economic problems to the masses.

You FAIL TO ACT because you are not looking at WHAT IS WHERE YOU ARE... not within the BIG WORLD.

When you have MORE MONEY... you can worry about the World... Bill Gates... but BABIES must STAND FIRST.... WALK... RUN... and then DRIVE the GLOBAL CAR!

Fixing the World's economic problems... One dumbass thread at a time.
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I'm assuming I talked myself out of a $25/hr minimum wage level job with your company. Dammit!
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I have a TEMPLATE.... and if you need help... I can tell you how I DID IT.... send me an email

GLPJunk@mail.com

I'm assuming I talked myself out of a $25 minimum wage level job with your company. Dammit!
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You know.... the Unions get it.... and the CEO's get it... I say it is time for EVERYONE to get it.

I own a small business... and I pay $25.00 hour to my staff. They work very hard for me... and help me MAKE MOENY... they ARE WORTH IT..... it is simply the COST of doing business...

Even though I am an independent... this is something I can wrap my support around.

You know... my business is still a BIG Success even in a bad economy... and I say... spread the wealth around...

Also... it is an inner projection that there is ALWAYS PLENTY for everyone... I don't live from a place of LACK so my staff does NOT LACK what they need to do their job.... or support thier personal dreams.

of course.. I only have a very small staff of 5.. so you can make an argument that I am TOO SMALL to count... Smile.

As you GIVE to your staff... people who work for you SUPPORT your VISIONS and DREAMS with their love and energy.. so it is a WIN WIN!.

Smile.

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America’s 3.6 million minimum-wage workers will get a nearly 40 percent pay raise, if Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, has his way


Elizabeth Warren: Minimum Wage Would Be $22 An Hour If It Had Kept Up With Productivity

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kookoo kookookookooanother docrazyjak
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the really wealthy that actually earn their money dont get a an hourly wage, they sell lots and lots copies of something they control at a profit, usually under condition of or approaching that a monopoly.
The rest use govt to create the conditions for them and use the govt as cover for their monolpoly to keep competition low and profits higher than natural.
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Not one penny did I get from the GOVT to help me with my business.

It was my MONEY... Sweat ... Tears and work... so this is BS.


the really wealthy that actually earn their money dont get a an hourly wage, they sell lots and lots copies of something they control at a profit, usually under condition of or approaching that a monopoly.
The rest use govt to create the conditions for them and use the govt as cover for their monolpoly to keep competition low and profits higher than natural.
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That will spell ECONOMIC DOOM....

Ohh by the way...do you pay for their healthcare too?


Maybe if you had thousands of employees...you couldn't afford that increase...

The country can not afford minimum wage to be even $10...

Don't get me wrong...I'm a share the wealth guy when it comes to keeping good employees....

Nobody makes more money than WALMART... Why don't they pay their employees more and give them healthcare?

They don't give a FUCK...CORPORATE GREED RULES THIS COUNTRY...NOT GUYS LIKE YOU... iamwith

BREAD would cost $30 a loaf along with the rest of the food...INFLATION would kill us...
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Not one penny did I get from the GOVT to help me with my business.

It was my MONEY... Sweat ... Tears and work... so this is BS.


the really wealthy that actually earn their money dont get a an hourly wage, they sell lots and lots copies of something they control at a profit, usually under condition of or approaching that a monopoly.
The rest use govt to create the conditions for them and use the govt as cover for their monolpoly to keep competition low and profits higher than natural.
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he/she isnt talking about you.



also, check your glp inbox.
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I didn't read the whole thread because I saw people being very negative. Amazing how you guys are like that. Anyway...

This could very well work beautifully. If you think about it, there are simply not enough jobs to go around for everyone. The jobs to people ratio sucks. If the jobs were paying $20-30 per hour, those jobs could be contract jobs for say 6-months to a year. The people working those jobs know they need to budget and save and when their contract is up, they can take their earnings and live a carefree life until they can get another contract job. This also ensures that most people will have a job available to them, hence spreading the wealth.
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Lol $22 an hour to flip burgers? Get the fuck outta here.
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^exactly!^

i made either $3.15 or 3.25 when i started out and was so happy when it went first to (internal company decision) 3.35 and then to 3.50....and this was office work after school. started working at 16.
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You know.... the Unions get it.... and the CEO's get it... I say it is time for EVERYONE to get it.

I own a small business... and I pay $25.00 hour to my staff. They work very hard for me... and help me MAKE MOENY... they ARE WORTH IT..... it is simply the COST of doing business...
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It would be interesting to watch what would happen if minimum wage were raised to $25.00 per hour. It likely would to do the US what France's Socialist, super-dooper-liberal president has done to his country: tank it. Or the law of unintended consequences.
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That's one way to kick-off hyperinflation.

In fact, I'm going to go request a 40% raise right now.
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This thread needs adult supervision and segregation of idiots to someplace where they wont disrupt things.
Kids playing in the pool always get in the way of the adults trying to get something done