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Vaccines: Science VS Superstition

 
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Vaccines: Science VS Superstition
I know the truth is boring but the truth is there is no conspiracy...


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I know the truth is boring but the truth is there is no conspiracy...


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Tell how the black plague dissapeared without a vaccine
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Perhaps the issue some people have with vaccines isn't so much if they work or not, but the fact they're laced with mercury and other toxins, and they don't want that shit injected in their bloodstreams?
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Tell how the black plague dissapeared without a vaccine
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"The plague reoccurred occasionally in Europe until the 19th century."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Better hygiene and people moved out of the cities to rural areas.
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Re: Vaccines: Science VS Superstition
putin

Better question... why do we have so many vaccines now?
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Better question... why do we have so many vaccines now?
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The goal is to immunize humans completely. Against every possible virus.

The world population wouldn't be growing every year if there was a conspiracy to kill us with vaccines...
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Better question... why do we have so many vaccines now?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


The goal is to immunize humans completely. Against every possible virus.

The world population wouldn't be growing every year if there was a conspiracy to kill us with vaccines...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36424138


Nope. Wrong. Again, why so many now? Do we really need them? What is the root cause for needing so many of them?
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Better question... why do we have so many vaccines now?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


The goal is to immunize humans completely. Against every possible virus.

The world population wouldn't be growing every year if there was a conspiracy to kill us with vaccines...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36424138


Maybe killing us is not the goal, but making us sickly and dependent on their high-dollar prescription drugs and medical services. Big Money there.
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Hint: The Sun
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Nope. Wrong. Again, why so many now? Do we really need them? What is the root cause for needing so many of them?
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I think TPTB are genuinely scared that an epidemic could get out of control in a metropolitan area.

If even STDs (which require sexual contact) spread at such staggering rates, one can only imagine what a more potent virus would do...

If people aren't immunized at all, they become potential hosts to new and deadly viruses that we don't even know about yet.
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Hint: The Sun
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Would love to hear more.
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Hint: The Sun
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Would love to hear more.
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We get vitamin D from the sun. Vitamin D is crucial to proper immune system function yet we have this stupid sun scare so we end up with vitamin D deficiency so we get sick more often so we end up with more vaccines.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

I'd say that with vitamin D supplement, there is no need for some of vaccines...

After all, vitamin D is your natural universal vaccine...
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OP - go shill somewhere else...
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Nope. Wrong. Again, why so many now? Do we really need them? What is the root cause for needing so many of them?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


I think TPTB are genuinely scared that an epidemic could get out of control in a metropolitan area.

If even STDs (which require sexual contact) spread at such staggering rates, one can only imagine what a more potent virus would do...

If people aren't immunized at all, they become potential hosts to new and deadly viruses that we don't even know about yet.
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rofl


Hint: The Sun
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Would love to hear more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33733231


We get vitamin D from the sun. Vitamin D is crucial to proper immune system function yet we have this stupid sun scare so we end up with vitamin D deficiency so we get sick more often so we end up with more vaccines.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

I'd say that with vitamin D supplement, there is no need for some of vaccines...

After all, vitamin D is your natural universal vaccine...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


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Better question... why do we have so many vaccines now?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


The goal is to immunize humans completely. Against every possible virus.

The world population wouldn't be growing every year if there was a conspiracy to kill us with vaccines...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36424138


Maybe killing us is not the goal, but making us sickly and dependent on their high-dollar prescription drugs and medical services. Big Money there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33733231


Thats right.

Dead men pay no bills.
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Better question... why do we have so many vaccines now?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


The goal is to immunize humans completely. Against every possible virus.

The world population wouldn't be growing every year if there was a conspiracy to kill us with vaccines...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36424138


Asian Tiger faces extinction..

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Voluntary human extinction in one country

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Abbie Smith .... NOW retired from the massive 'payoff' by the pharmas to make the video.

FIRST bold assumption, "If you believe in the EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS .."lol;.
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Vaccines are a means of genocide. They disable and destroy!!!!!


OP is an ignorant shill!


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rofl
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You're laughing and yet it's everyday life.

If you took the subway or bus to work this morning and touched the grabpole, you transport the germs to the colleagues you later shake hands with...
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My problem with Vaccines is that it is by passing the FIRST point of your immune system - Your Skin, Mouth (Tongue), Nose, etc. - These areas remove BAD germs before they get into the internal immune system, keeping the internal immune system from being overwhelmed.

Each Human is different - with different resistance/weaknesses within each of us - what effects me may or may not effect you in the same manner.

There are side effects to EVERY man made pill on the market - whether the side effects effect you is based on your genetics.

One bad point is that the FLU shot is a Hit or miss - in recent years they have not been effective because they did not GUESS the strain that came around. I have never had a Flu shot, I do not take over the counter meds, I only eat WHOLE FOODS, I exercise, I STAY AWAY from SICK people...

Shit you want to keep people well - WEAR a DAMN mask if you are sick - Don't go to the freakin mall, and keep your damn hands clean.

Remember we only control diseases.....They are not cured...

Problem today - Look at Staph Infection - Penicillin will not handle this now - they need to create a more powerful drug to combat this infection. Why??? The doctors OVERUSED Penicillin - Gave it to people for everything - ear ache, Bad Cold, etc.

To me people need to be more healthier - Did you know in the 1960's when I was growing up there were 5 Vaccinations for a child - How many Vacs are today for a child - Shit they give then multiple shots at one sitting and they have around 27 Vaccinations today before the age of 18....

You are what you eat - Be Healthy - eating right is the first and most important step in a persons BASE health.
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Hint: The Sun
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Would love to hear more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33733231


We get vitamin D from the sun. Vitamin D is crucial to proper immune system function yet we have this stupid sun scare so we end up with vitamin D deficiency so we get sick more often so we end up with more vaccines.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

I'd say that with vitamin D supplement, there is no need for some of vaccines...

After all, vitamin D is your natural universal vaccine...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Yes I agree - Vitamin D was added to Milk to get it to people...But the Best way to get this is by the SUN not by a prcess which adds this to Milk. Yes I too agree that SUNBLOCK is not good (just look at the ingredients). I think that you need to get SUN - Not to get sunburned bad but a good 20 minutes to a hour of sun depending on the intensity. Just like they said eggs raised cholestoral but come to find out it raises the Good Cholestoral in the body when eaten and a food people were to stay away from in excess is actually very good for a person.
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Better question... why do we have so many vaccines now?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


The goal is to immunize humans completely. Against every possible virus.

The world population wouldn't be growing every year if there was a conspiracy to kill us with vaccines...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36424138


Maybe killing us is not the goal, but making us sickly and dependent on their high-dollar prescription drugs and medical services. Big Money there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33733231


Exactly!
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I know the truth is boring but the truth is there is no conspiracy...


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Thank God its the end result of the scientific process maybe you ass hats will finally wake up and realize your science isnt in touch with nature
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rofl
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You're laughing and yet it's everyday life.

If you took the subway or bus to work this morning and touched the grabpole, you transport the germs to the colleagues you later shake hands with...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36424138


putin

You can't be this stupid, are you?
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Hint: The Sun
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Would love to hear more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33733231


We get vitamin D from the sun. Vitamin D is crucial to proper immune system function yet we have this stupid sun scare so we end up with vitamin D deficiency so we get sick more often so we end up with more vaccines.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

I'd say that with vitamin D supplement, there is no need for some of vaccines...

After all, vitamin D is your natural universal vaccine...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


But what about skin cancer from the sun?
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I know the truth is boring but the truth is there is no conspiracy...


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36424138


Making the anti vaccine argument exclusively about God is inaccurately addressing the issues. Also, admittedly supporting something as abhorrent as abortion (read: killing babies) for the sake of theoretical science is disgusting. Now don't get me wrong, I acknowledge there is a certain few situations where abortion would be ethically viable. Rape, life risk, things of this nature all apply. But this coddling irresponsible behavior by offering abortion as a lifeline like living like that is some kind of "right" is inexcusable. You live a certain way, there is consequences for that lifestyle. No amount of science can change that. Some Christians could argue that God allows abortion as a counter to disdainful actions like rape, though I am no Christian so what do I know, right?

Vaccines kill people. There are federal programs to assist families with children who have been adversely affected by them, which would tend to indicate the occurrence of adversity/death is slightly more than once and a while. Not mention that all of the pro vaccine rhetoric and "testing" is almost always funded by the manufacturers of the vaccines themselves. Conflict of interest much?

its all a matter of perspective I suppose...a Christian viewing their family member recover from cancer is as much a miracle to them as it is science to the condescending little cunt in that video. To me, God made science, or if not used science to make us. In my mind, science and God are two sides of the same coin.
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just my 2 cents worth......human life expectancy has increased from an average of 25 to an average of 79 in western countries. 3rd world countries that have sanitation and clean water but NO vaccination have a average life expectancy of 32. also the mercury preservative thimersol,if you extracted the mercury from 1000 vaccination shots it would fit on a pin head such a tiny tiny amount,most definatey not a neuro toxic amount,by the way im not a paid shill,doctor, big pharma stooge, im a forensic crime scene investigator who has access to relevant info that may help people in a INFORMED decision regarding vaccination,often i notice some people who are against vaccines also are trying to scare you into buying there "natural product" eyes open people for gods sake
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I find this ironic about science vs superstition...

The reason we have so many vaccines was based on crappy study or outdated study over sun scare and skin cancer.

Everybody is so scared of sun thinking it will give them skin cancer yet, avoiding the sun will significantly raise the risk of getting at least on of 18 different cancers or more...

Talk about crappy science... lol

Whatever.
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Problem today - Look at Staph Infection - Penicillin will not handle this now - they need to create a more powerful drug to combat this infection. Why??? The doctors OVERUSED Penicillin - Gave it to people for everything - ear ache, Bad Cold, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1474063


That's true. We also become more immune to all kinds of antibiotics because the animals we eat are treated with them.

There is no solution to that problem though (for now) because a growing world population demands more and more food...
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just my 2 cents worth......human life expectancy has increased from an average of 25 to an average of 79 in western countries. 3rd world countries that have sanitation and clean water but NO vaccination have a average life expectancy of 32. also the mercury preservative thimersol,if you extracted the mercury from 1000 vaccination shots it would fit on a pin head such a tiny tiny amount,most definatey not a neuro toxic amount,by the way im not a paid shill,doctor, big pharma stooge, im a forensic crime scene investigator who has access to relevant info that may help people in a INFORMED decision regarding vaccination,often i notice some people who are against vaccines also are trying to scare you into buying there "natural product" eyes open people for gods sake
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:Bullshit33:

Modern sanitary for everybody is number one for significantly longer life expectancy.

You're just blowing hot air out of the ass.





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