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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2731277 United States 03/19/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Dept. of Children and Families spokesperson told Fox News they could not confirm or deny an investigation or raid had taken place due to government regulations. “The department has a child abuse hotline for the state of New Jersey and anybody can make a call to that hotline,” spokesperson Kristen Brown said. “We are required to follow up on every single allegation that comes into the central registry.” Moore, of Carneys Point, is a certified firearms instructor for the National Rifle Association, an NRA range safety officer and a New Jersey hunter education instructor. He recently posted a photograph of his son wearing camouflage and holding his new .22 rifle. The child has a New Jersey hunting license and recently passed the state’s hunter safety course. “If you look at the picture, his finger isn’t even on the trigger – which is proper,” Nappen told Fox News. “If half of Hollywood could follow that rule we’d be thankful.” |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2731277 United States 03/19/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Brown said their role is not to go out and search Facebook for photos of children holding weapons. “In general our role is to investigate allegations of child abuse and neglect,” she said. The family’s trouble started Saturday night when Moore received an urgent text message from his wife. The Carneys Point Police Dept. and the New Jersey Dept. of Children and Families had raided their home. Moore immediately called Nappen and rushed home to find officers demanding to check his guns and his gun safe. Instead, he handed the cell phone to one of the officers – so they could speak with Nappen. “If you have a warrant, you’re coming in,” Nappen told the officers. “If you don’t, then you’re not. That’s what privacy is all about.” With his attorney on speaker phone, Moore instructed the officers to leave his home. “I was told I was being unreasonable and that I was acting suspicious because I wouldn’t open my safe,” Moore wrote on the Delaware Open Carry website. “They told me they were going to get a search warrant. I told them to go ahead.” |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2731277 United States 03/19/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, in the mind of today's Progressive Liberal, a child in hunting attire, holding a hunting rifle constitutes child abuse. Quoting: Evil_Twin 'Progressive Liberal' ideology is "Live and Let Live, As Long As You Agree With Me." What happened to Freedom of Speech and dress? It wasn't in the school yard ! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20451994 United States 03/19/2013 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | god damn you are retarded! you do this every day - take ALREADY pinned threads and start another on the same topic but re-arrange the wording. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20451994 you and "kitkat123" and you talk back and forth. i think you are the same person logging onto different computers. busted! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36501092 United States 03/19/2013 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freedom of speech still applies if you are standing on a street corner, shouting "Guns are bad, fags are normal, and successful people suck!!!" Otherwise, STFU Guns are fine, fags are normal and 'successful' people are lazy sobs that usually sit in an office while the true decent people in this world do aall their work for them. So kindly stfu and keep counting your allowance from daddy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6685296 United States 03/19/2013 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to radio.foxnews.com] Quoting: Indysmindy Family’s Home Raided over Facebook Photo of Child’s Rifle New Jersey police and Dept. of Children and Families officials raided the home of a firearms instructor and demanded to see his guns after he posted a Facebook photo of his 11-year-old son holding a rifle. “Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney representing Shawn Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids.” Moore was not arrested or charged. Most school shootings HAVE BEEN the result of children getting access to guns owned by adults, ESPECIALLY parents. Of COURSE, when you post a picture of a child with a gun, someone is going to MAKE SURE it's not easy access at all times!!! . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36506281 Germany 03/19/2013 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney representing Shawn Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids.” Quoting: Indysmindy Good! They prevented the next Adam Lanza! Great Job! This clearly mentally ill father will think twice before he give again weapons in the hand of kids. Would be also good to take all kids from guntards and give them into a house of correction. |
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Pythagoras User ID: 12699116 United States 03/19/2013 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't like how the attorney handled it. He made the argument that the father and the boy were both fully credentialed and therefor, they didn't have to submit to a search. That was the wrong approach. Credentialed or not, they have a right to keep and bare arms - in or out of a safe. Their credentials don't provide them the right to keep weapons. If there are no local laws against those weapons (and I really doubt that there is a law against a .22) then they have no right to demand entry into their house to check up on them. What law were they suspected of breaking. I have a load of whole wheat bread! Maybe they should come and make sure it's in the breadbox. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36517956 United States 03/19/2013 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to radio.foxnews.com] Quoting: Indysmindy Family’s Home Raided over Facebook Photo of Child’s Rifle New Jersey police and Dept. of Children and Families officials raided the home of a firearms instructor and demanded to see his guns after he posted a Facebook photo of his 11-year-old son holding a rifle. “Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney representing Shawn Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids.” Moore was not arrested or charged. He should be charged with child endangerment, be prosecuted, and have it on his record. Morons all over America are raising their children to be violent, gun-crazed war-mongers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28053313 United States 03/19/2013 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not arguing that what the police did was right, but why dear god why would you post that picture on Facebook? most of these police abuse cases have causes on both sides- people acting dumb and police overreacting plus it's not like they shot him or anything |