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Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 03/20/2013 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel sorry for the people of cyprus. its an absolute scam. by putting this tax even on the poor people of cyprus they just save 2 billion dollars. for 2 billion dollars they steal from all the people of an EU country. Its redicoulous! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34907233 2 billion is absolutley nothing and they risking a bank run that could spread all over europe. Seriously it makes no sense. These 2 billion they can safe are not the reason they are doing this. There musst be bigger intentions behind that. Evil shit going on. our goverment is an absolute joke. btw lol at people who think putin is pissed. He loves this. cyprus finance minister is in moscow right now begging the kreml for money. Russia gonna help them but obv under special conditions. They gonna privatize that country. Maybe Russia will use Cyprus as a vacation paradise for tired middle-class Russians? LOl. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember I was told about an elderly Cypriot lady yesterday on the news saying something to the effect------- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777204 "The Germans have just started another war." Sadly, I agree with that. Whether the whole nation or just its fucked-up government is responsible, it basically HAS started another war. Yep. This is crunch time for meltdown DOOM. I expect the cypritic lady expect an endless flow of free german money into her country and if not she declares war on germany. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 03/20/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33724411 Did he have personal money in Cyprus or is he in the hands of russian thugs himself? It shocks you that Putin's friends are Russian mafia? Really? I considered that Putin acts in the interest of Russia not in the interest of criminals. Maybe I was wrong. Then you are a fool. Putin did something he probably never dreamed he would be doing...calling the president/PM of Cyprus. He probably didn't even know the guy's name a week ago. The call wasn't to schedule a tennis date. But it turns out the real plan of the EU bankers all along was not to skim 10%. No, it is to seize the entire operation because the 10% plan was the poison pill that kills the ENTIRE Cyprian banking system. So now Putin and the 'dons' will be setting their sites elsewhere. Yup, the EU bankers might be a little richer before they get snuffed out. But pissing off Putin this much by taking his friend's money is a kiss of death. People are going to die. Shot dead. If they want to make it really scary, they'll do it like they did the Russian spy who fled to England. Even the Rothchild's had better watch their backs. I DID mention that case of the Russain spy in England some posts back. Ghastly. The Eu does not know who it is dealing with. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 03/20/2013 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember I was told about an elderly Cypriot lady yesterday on the news saying something to the effect------- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777204 "The Germans have just started another war." Sadly, I agree with that. Whether the whole nation or just its fucked-up government is responsible, it basically HAS started another war. Yep. This is crunch time for meltdown DOOM. I expect the cypritic lady expect an endless flow of free german money into her country and if not she declares war on germany. Well, so you are saying this is ALL the Cypriot's fault, then? The Eu and Germany have nothing to say for themselves regarding this? really? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33724411 Did he have personal money in Cyprus or is he in the hands of russian thugs himself? It shocks you that Putin's friends are Russian mafia? Really? I considered that Putin acts in the interest of Russia not in the interest of criminals. Maybe I was wrong. Then you are a fool. Putin did something he probably never dreamed he would be doing...calling the president/PM of Cyprus. He probably didn't even know the guy's name a week ago. The call wasn't to schedule a tennis date. But it turns out the real plan of the EU bankers all along was not to skim 10%. No, it is to seize the entire operation because the 10% plan was the poison pill that kills the ENTIRE Cyprian banking system. So now Putin and the 'dons' will be setting their sites elsewhere. Yup, the EU bankers might be a little richer before they get snuffed out. But pissing off Putin this much by taking his friend's money is a kiss of death. People are going to die. Shot dead. If they want to make it really scary, they'll do it like they did the Russian spy who fled to England. Even the Rothchild's had better watch their backs. Well, he can try to off some bankers if he likes. I don't have a problem with that. But that wont give him access to his lost russian money at all. And it would shine a very bad light on his country, where for sure foreign investemnt would drop dramatically, when it becomes obvious which state of mind runs that shithole. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember I was told about an elderly Cypriot lady yesterday on the news saying something to the effect------- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777204 "The Germans have just started another war." Sadly, I agree with that. Whether the whole nation or just its fucked-up government is responsible, it basically HAS started another war. Yep. This is crunch time for meltdown DOOM. I expect the cypritic lady expect an endless flow of free german money into her country and if not she declares war on germany. Well, so you are saying this is ALL the Cypriot's fault, then? The Eu and Germany have nothing to say for themselves regarding this? really? Of course its Cyprus' fault, are you facetious? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 03/20/2013 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I considered that Putin acts in the interest of Russia not in the interest of criminals. Maybe I was wrong. Then you are a fool. Putin did something he probably never dreamed he would be doing...calling the president/PM of Cyprus. He probably didn't even know the guy's name a week ago. The call wasn't to schedule a tennis date. But it turns out the real plan of the EU bankers all along was not to skim 10%. No, it is to seize the entire operation because the 10% plan was the poison pill that kills the ENTIRE Cyprian banking system. So now Putin and the 'dons' will be setting their sites elsewhere. Yup, the EU bankers might be a little richer before they get snuffed out. But pissing off Putin this much by taking his friend's money is a kiss of death. People are going to die. Shot dead. If they want to make it really scary, they'll do it like they did the Russian spy who fled to England. Even the Rothchild's had better watch their backs. Well, he can try to off some bankers if he likes. I don't have a problem with that. But that wont give him access to his lost russian money at all. And it would shine a very bad light on his country, where for sure foreign investemnt would drop dramatically, when it becomes obvious which state of mind runs that shithole. Like Putin cares. The guy is basically unelected Emperor of his country-----don't you know that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 03/20/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember I was told about an elderly Cypriot lady yesterday on the news saying something to the effect------- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777204 "The Germans have just started another war." Sadly, I agree with that. Whether the whole nation or just its fucked-up government is responsible, it basically HAS started another war. Yep. This is crunch time for meltdown DOOM. I expect the cypritic lady expect an endless flow of free german money into her country and if not she declares war on germany. Well, so you are saying this is ALL the Cypriot's fault, then? The Eu and Germany have nothing to say for themselves regarding this? really? Of course its Cyprus' fault, are you facetious? ALL of it? You must be living in an Alternate Universe from the rest of us GLPers. I guess so. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34907233 Germany 03/20/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know how many schools could be build with that money in Germany? How many Kindergarten places could be made. I say there are lots of opportunities where that money is better spend then in Cyprus. are you an idiot? we have schools and kindergarten for everyone in germany. 2 billion is a drop in the ocean compared to the damage they will cause. Soon people in Greece will think, "wait a minute mabye next week they do the same in greece. i ebtetr cashout before they steal 10% from my bank account. " Then people in spain, then italy, ireland... why would people trust a bank anymore when they can just take 10% from your bank to chase their losses? And the banks only have a fraction of the money that people will demand once evryone cashes out. its absolutley crazy what they are risking just to say "we make the rules!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 03/20/2013 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know how many schools could be build with that money in Germany? How many Kindergarten places could be made. I say there are lots of opportunities where that money is better spend then in Cyprus. are you an idiot? we have schools and kindergarten for everyone in germany. 2 billion is a drop in the ocean compared to the damage they will cause. Soon people in Greece will think, "wait a minute mabye next week they do the same in greece. i ebtetr cashout before they steal 10% from my bank account. " Then people in spain, then italy, ireland... why would people trust a bank anymore when they can just take 10% from your bank to chase their losses? And the banks only have a fraction of the money that people will demand once evryone cashes out. its absolutley crazy what they are risking just to say "we make the rules!" Absolutely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33724411 I expect the cypritic lady expect an endless flow of free german money into her country and if not she declares war on germany. Well, so you are saying this is ALL the Cypriot's fault, then? The Eu and Germany have nothing to say for themselves regarding this? really? Of course its Cyprus' fault, are you facetious? ALL of it? You must be living in an Alternate Universe from the rest of us GLPers. I guess so. I am not living in the universe where anyone other than cypriots ran Cyprus into the ground. Who is the president of Cyprus? Who runs the cypriotic banks? Not cypriots? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know how many schools could be build with that money in Germany? How many Kindergarten places could be made. I say there are lots of opportunities where that money is better spend then in Cyprus. are you an idiot? we have schools and kindergarten for everyone in germany. You liar. Are you even german? Have you ever talked to german people who would like to bring the children to a kindergarten? It is very hard to get a place, in some places it is almost impossible. There are lots of schools who are old and need to be modernized. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 03/20/2013 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777204 Well, so you are saying this is ALL the Cypriot's fault, then? The Eu and Germany have nothing to say for themselves regarding this? really? Of course its Cyprus' fault, are you facetious? ALL of it? You must be living in an Alternate Universe from the rest of us GLPers. I guess so. I am not living in the universe where anyone other than cypriots ran Cyprus into the ground. Who is the president of Cyprus? Who runs the cypriotic banks? Not cypriots? And who demanded the ridiculous 15% or so confiscation tax, then------the Cypriots themselves? have you been paying attention at all to what the posters here have been saying? Sigh......... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36540283 Germany 03/20/2013 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777204 Russia is NOT going to stand by and let their money go down the drain. Don't you understand that? Putin is ex-KGB. He basically ordered that Soviet KGB defector in England to be killed with RADIATION POISONING afew years ago. And he was. Horrible way he died too. You think, then, he would hesitate to get the Russian Mob or some of his ex-KGB buddies to do a little "house cleaning" in Cyprus? No, he would not. Don't you understand, I don't care about your russian bad boys. And so does noone else in germany. If they want their money back they should take care of it themselvse, not expect the german nation to pay for their dirt. Yes, that´s true. Except that it´s more complicated than that. German banks are also exposed. And Germany wants to keep the euro. So, there are reasons Germany wants to get involved. By the way, the other half of Cyprus has the Turkish lira and none of the problems with the banks. The euro has created many of the problems, including the real estate bubbles and the excessive increase in public debt. Without the euro, local currencies would have depreciated and investors would have been cautious. Interest rates would have been higher and inflating real estate bubbles would not have inflated. Yes, its time to end the Euro for Cyprus. And I suspect Merkel and Schaeuble are ready for it. I think it would be better for Germany to leave the euro. Pretty much all the other countries want to print money. If they leave, the reconversion is a mess. If Germany leaves, it´s much more manageable. Also, Germany´s public debt is denominated in euros. If the euro loses value, Germany´s debt would start to vanish... without even having to pay for it! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soon people in Greece will think, "wait a minute mabye next week they do the same in greece. i ebtetr cashout before they steal 10% from my bank account. " Then people in spain, then italy, ireland... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34907233 why would people trust a bank anymore when they can just take 10% from your bank to chase their losses? And the banks only have a fraction of the money that people will demand once evryone cashes out. its absolutley crazy what they are risking just to say "we make the rules!" There is no bankrun in Greece. the question here is, will Germany pay, or will Germany not pay. If you care about what greeks say, then you will always get the answer, that Germany should pay. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 03/20/2013 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33724411 Don't you understand, I don't care about your russian bad boys. And so does noone else in germany. If they want their money back they should take care of it themselvse, not expect the german nation to pay for their dirt. Yes, that´s true. Except that it´s more complicated than that. German banks are also exposed. And Germany wants to keep the euro. So, there are reasons Germany wants to get involved. By the way, the other half of Cyprus has the Turkish lira and none of the problems with the banks. The euro has created many of the problems, including the real estate bubbles and the excessive increase in public debt. Without the euro, local currencies would have depreciated and investors would have been cautious. Interest rates would have been higher and inflating real estate bubbles would not have inflated. Yes, its time to end the Euro for Cyprus. And I suspect Merkel and Schaeuble are ready for it. I think it would be better for Germany to leave the euro. Pretty much all the other countries want to print money. If they leave, the reconversion is a mess. If Germany leaves, it´s much more manageable. Also, Germany´s public debt is denominated in euros. If the euro loses value, Germany´s debt would start to vanish... without even having to pay for it! Good solution, there...............................tell that to the other guy in here...................LOL. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ALL of it? You must be living in an Alternate Universe from the rest of us GLPers. I guess so. I am not living in the universe where anyone other than cypriots ran Cyprus into the ground. Who is the president of Cyprus? Who runs the cypriotic banks? Not cypriots? And who demanded the ridiculous 15% or so confiscation tax, then------the Cypriots themselves? have you been paying attention at all to what the posters here have been saying? Sigh......... What proposal do the cypriots expect should Germany make? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34907233 Germany 03/20/2013 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know how many schools could be build with that money in Germany? How many Kindergarten places could be made. I say there are lots of opportunities where that money is better spend then in Cyprus. are you an idiot? we have schools and kindergarten for everyone in germany. You liar. Are you even german? Have you ever talked to german people who would like to bring the children to a kindergarten? It is very hard to get a place, in some places it is almost impossible. There are lots of schools who are old and need to be modernized. lol what a load of bullshit. There is free school and kindergarten for everyone in germany. The fact that you ingore all my valid arguments and just quote one line shows that you hvae no answers. yes, i am german and i know germans like you who are miserable all day long. You like to see people suffer for the sake of saying "told ya". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36540283 Germany 03/20/2013 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ALL of it? You must be living in an Alternate Universe from the rest of us GLPers. I guess so. I am not living in the universe where anyone other than cypriots ran Cyprus into the ground. Who is the president of Cyprus? Who runs the cypriotic banks? Not cypriots? And who demanded the ridiculous 15% or so confiscation tax, then------the Cypriots themselves? have you been paying attention at all to what the posters here have been saying? Sigh......... Once things become so entangled, it is very difficult to say who´s at fault. In a system where each country decides for itself and those who make bad investments stand lose most of these problems would not even occur. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 03/20/2013 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soon people in Greece will think, "wait a minute mabye next week they do the same in greece. i ebtetr cashout before they steal 10% from my bank account. " Then people in spain, then italy, ireland... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34907233 why would people trust a bank anymore when they can just take 10% from your bank to chase their losses? And the banks only have a fraction of the money that people will demand once evryone cashes out. its absolutley crazy what they are risking just to say "we make the rules!" There is no bankrun in Greece. the question here is, will Germany pay, or will Germany not pay. If you care about what greeks say, then you will always get the answer, that Germany should pay. They went through HELL on EARTH, though. Maybe they have soemthing in there, though. Just saying. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36540283 Yes, that´s true. Except that it´s more complicated than that. German banks are also exposed. And Germany wants to keep the euro. So, there are reasons Germany wants to get involved. By the way, the other half of Cyprus has the Turkish lira and none of the problems with the banks. The euro has created many of the problems, including the real estate bubbles and the excessive increase in public debt. Without the euro, local currencies would have depreciated and investors would have been cautious. Interest rates would have been higher and inflating real estate bubbles would not have inflated. Yes, its time to end the Euro for Cyprus. And I suspect Merkel and Schaeuble are ready for it. I think it would be better for Germany to leave the euro. Pretty much all the other countries want to print money. If they leave, the reconversion is a mess. If Germany leaves, it´s much more manageable. Also, Germany´s public debt is denominated in euros. If the euro loses value, Germany´s debt would start to vanish... without even having to pay for it! Good solution, there...............................tell that to the other guy in here...................LOL. No, I also agree that Germany needs to exit the Euro. Maybe we can finish with this compromise. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 United States 03/20/2013 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777204 ALL of it? You must be living in an Alternate Universe from the rest of us GLPers. I guess so. I am not living in the universe where anyone other than cypriots ran Cyprus into the ground. Who is the president of Cyprus? Who runs the cypriotic banks? Not cypriots? And who demanded the ridiculous 15% or so confiscation tax, then------the Cypriots themselves? have you been paying attention at all to what the posters here have been saying? Sigh......... Once things become so entangled, it is very difficult to say who´s at fault. In a system where each country decides for itself and those who make bad investments stand lose most of these problems would not even occur. True-----I would say, though, a good portion of the fault lies with Germany, brussels, and the EU. Maybe not all of it. Cyprus may have had a hand in it. But ALL of it is Cypriot fault? Hell, no? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33724411 Do you know how many schools could be build with that money in Germany? How many Kindergarten places could be made. I say there are lots of opportunities where that money is better spend then in Cyprus. are you an idiot? we have schools and kindergarten for everyone in germany. You liar. Are you even german? Have you ever talked to german people who would like to bring the children to a kindergarten? It is very hard to get a place, in some places it is almost impossible. There are lots of schools who are old and need to be modernized. lol what a load of bullshit. There is free school and kindergarten for everyone in germany. You are a liar. Or you sit in your basement and don't meet people with children. Do you want me to search for the newspaper reportings about it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36540283 Germany 03/20/2013 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33724411 I am not living in the universe where anyone other than cypriots ran Cyprus into the ground. Who is the president of Cyprus? Who runs the cypriotic banks? Not cypriots? And who demanded the ridiculous 15% or so confiscation tax, then------the Cypriots themselves? have you been paying attention at all to what the posters here have been saying? Sigh......... Once things become so entangled, it is very difficult to say who´s at fault. In a system where each country decides for itself and those who make bad investments stand lose most of these problems would not even occur. True-----I would say, though, a good portion of the fault lies with Germany, brussels, and the EU. Maybe not all of it. Cyprus may have had a hand in it. But ALL of it is Cypriot fault? Hell, no? Maybe you could enlighten us how it was Germanys or Brussels fault that Cyprus needs 10 billion Euros? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36555921 United States 03/20/2013 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I considered that Putin acts in the interest of Russia not in the interest of criminals. Maybe I was wrong. Then you are a fool. Putin did something he probably never dreamed he would be doing...calling the president/PM of Cyprus. He probably didn't even know the guy's name a week ago. The call wasn't to schedule a tennis date. But it turns out the real plan of the EU bankers all along was not to skim 10%. No, it is to seize the entire operation because the 10% plan was the poison pill that kills the ENTIRE Cyprian banking system. So now Putin and the 'dons' will be setting their sites elsewhere. Yup, the EU bankers might be a little richer before they get snuffed out. But pissing off Putin this much by taking his friend's money is a kiss of death. People are going to die. Shot dead. If they want to make it really scary, they'll do it like they did the Russian spy who fled to England. Even the Rothchild's had better watch their backs. I DID mention that case of the Russian spy in England some posts back. Ghastly. The Eu does not know who it is dealing with. Yes, so did I. It was a loud and clear message, wasn't it. If the EU bankers aren't familiar with it yet, they will be. Putin isn't the type to attend a bunch of meetings to work this out. Nor is he in any mood to suffer those bankers in their double breasted suits. Nope, the EU bankers took a bigger bite than they can swallow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35805099 Poland 03/20/2013 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks Cyprus anybody can see this more clearly. The government making debt. People which can afford to make some savings were prospered well. Now politicians steal money from people accounts to bail out banks which borrowed money to incompetent rulers. Nobody will lose except the ordinary people. This is essence of the debt system. All country finances are based not on something physical like gold but on the collection of future debts from its citizens. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36555921 United States 03/20/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I considered that Putin acts in the interest of Russia not in the interest of criminals. Maybe I was wrong. Then you are a fool. Putin did something he probably never dreamed he would be doing...calling the president/PM of Cyprus. He probably didn't even know the guy's name a week ago. The call wasn't to schedule a tennis date. But it turns out the real plan of the EU bankers all along was not to skim 10%. No, it is to seize the entire operation because the 10% plan was the poison pill that kills the ENTIRE Cyprian banking system. So now Putin and the 'dons' will be setting their sites elsewhere. Yup, the EU bankers might be a little richer before they get snuffed out. But pissing off Putin this much by taking his friend's money is a kiss of death. People are going to die. Shot dead. If they want to make it really scary, they'll do it like they did the Russian spy who fled to England. Even the Rothchild's had better watch their backs. I DID mention that case of the Russain spy in England some posts back. Ghastly. The Eu does not know who it is dealing with. Sorry my last response was posted inside the previously quoted area. Sorry for the mix up. ------------------------- Yes, so did I. It was a loud and clear message, wasn't it. If the EU bankers aren't familiar with it yet, they will be. Putin isn't the type to attend a bunch of meetings to work this out. Nor is he in any mood to suffer those bankers in their double breasted suits. Nope, the EU bankers took a bigger bite than they can swallow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34907233 Germany 03/20/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34907233 are you an idiot? we have schools and kindergarten for everyone in germany. You liar. Are you even german? Have you ever talked to german people who would like to bring the children to a kindergarten? It is very hard to get a place, in some places it is almost impossible. There are lots of schools who are old and need to be modernized. lol what a load of bullshit. There is free school and kindergarten for everyone in germany. You are a liar. Or you sit in your basement and don't meet people with children. Do you want me to search for the newspaper reportings about it? lol and you did it again. just quote one line and ignore the rest. Instead of answering my points you dont even quote them and try to change the topic to kindergarten and schools. There is free school and kindergarten for EVERYONE in germany thats a fact. you can go and post some stupid article where people cry cause the kindergarten isnt right around the corner. You are obv not interested in a discussion and are completly ingorant. So just let go and go troll somewhere else. Im not gonna answer you anymore. Theres no point talking to a wall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33724411 Germany 03/20/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a question of european bankers. These are political questions. All politicians of importance have sufficient security. And the russian idiots will not dare to attack official german politicians. |