BOND CRASH Dead AHEAD...."Investors Have NO IDEA What’s ABOUT To Happen" | |
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| Quasar User ID: 36523931 03/20/2013 01:30 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All that have gold and silver will do better than those who have paper instruments when economic collapse arrives. You can not eat paper but you can burn it to cook your meal. As for gold it has been of value for thousands of years even in times when it was normal to see people starving to death. This can also be seen in modern times: Born of the Cosmos... "Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves." Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36546193 03/20/2013 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No mention of Credit Default Swaps? $200 Trillion in liabilities outstanding is a conservative estimate. If bonds crash the CDS's will inevitably be triggered due to lack of funds, the resulting cascade will destroy,destroy and destroy. |
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| Just Some Guy User ID: 34384886 03/20/2013 02:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's the conclusion I came to a long time a go. When the dollar crashes gold will be revalued to the "Amero" or "New Dollar". Hence, all of the people holding gold, (they think they're so smart), will get screwed with the rest of us. |
| Punk-A$$ets User ID: 30559668 03/20/2013 02:57 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isnt Martin Armstrong calling for a meltdown at the end of 2015? Its going to happen eventually, that I have no doubt. Gold Prices: 12/31/2000 - $273 12/31/2005 – $516 12/31/2010 - $1,421 12/31/2011 - $1,566 12/31/2012 - $1,676 12/31/2013 - lower than last year??? I find it ironic how posters keep telling us how gold and silver will be confiscated, a minuscule market mind you, at the very same time the bankers are changing laws to simply confiscate savings and market accounts directly. In fact, we've already had confiscations; MF Global and Cyprus. Sorry, you'll lose your savings first. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36231608 03/20/2013 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing of real value is food and shelter. Everything else is "opinion" oriented. Quoting: Damrod Me personally, I have no use for "gold"...I can't eat it...I don't know how to make anything from it. I know there are people that think it is valuable because it is scarce...and because of that I will keep some. Gold is a sytem of standards based purely on arrogance. "I have this rare stuff and you know you want some of it". Give me food, shelter, some over the counter medication (cold remedies, peroxide, antihistamines), booze and non-electrical hand tools and I will have all I need to trade and barter with. We have it ingrained within us to see "gold" as the base of value...but it isn't. It was something dreamed up ages ago as a standard...a way of measuring the cost of labor. I am n the process of reading Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations"...and if you have never done so...I seriously suggest you do. It will make things perfectly clear on what has real value... have you ever thought that gold and silver have extreme worth because they are actualy beneficial for health and are atleast the best electrical conductors? just saying. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36103950 03/20/2013 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we all know that this is going to end bad, the question is: when? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28952191 My outside timeline is 2015...IMO everything has to go perfectly for it not to fall apart before then though, unless they WANT it to. Care to share, and explain your timeline? I think 2015 as well. Mostly because of the dhs purchase orders and fulfillment deadlines. They need everything ready before pulling the plug. And we're still seeing the preparatory work (drones, surveillance, tsa, etc) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2555875 03/20/2013 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't worry, there will be plenty of made up doom dates before then. Just wait for people to think of an elaborate bullshit theory, or for an event which can easily be spun and twisted and turned to bullshit. yeah right and you anticipated that there would be a bank holiday in Cyprus, right, totaly made up offcourse. And that the 100k deposit benchmark would be respected by the EU, a big no no. You are realy totally oblivion into the speed in which bad news is unraveling now. Well anhyhow, goodluck with your 2015 theory, moron. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2555875 03/20/2013 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we all know that this is going to end bad, the question is: when? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28952191 My outside timeline is 2015...IMO everything has to go perfectly for it not to fall apart before then though, unless they WANT it to. Care to share, and explain your timeline? I think 2015 as well. Mostly because of the dhs purchase orders and fulfillment deadlines. They need everything ready before pulling the plug. And we're still seeing the preparatory work (drones, surveillance, tsa, etc) we all know that this is going to end bad, the question is: when? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28952191 My outside timeline is 2015...IMO everything has to go perfectly for it not to fall apart before then though, unless they WANT it to. Care to share, and explain your timeline? I think 2015 as well. Mostly because of the dhs purchase orders and fulfillment deadlines. They need everything ready before pulling the plug. And we're still seeing the preparatory work (drones, surveillance, tsa, etc) Oh realy that long eh. I don't know if you noticed but credit is drying up faster and bankruptcys are more prevailant than ever. And that glitch with Chase or Natwest was just a little accident, business as usual. The crash is coming faster than you could anticipate, now go eat your happy meal. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27237669 03/20/2013 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..odd,if you go to [link to www.investmentnews.com] there is NO mention of this "bomb" going off. Just the usual articles on people/corp buying and selling property, stocks, bonds the usual biz news. I guess they think the borrowers will still pay their debt and are issuing new bonds. Another panic, misread attempt to scare people..does this ever get old? Bonds are IOUs with repayment interest and schedules. Some have rights to be paid 1st in the event of a failure by the lender, but otherwise it's a loan secured by assets or future revenues...econ 101 stuff. Investor's have a good idea what's about to happen...nothing...except they wish they had bought stocks :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32017112 03/20/2013 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's the conclusion I came to a long time a go. When the dollar crashes gold will be revalued to the "Amero" or "New Dollar". Hence, all of the people holding gold, (they think they're so smart), will get screwed with the rest of us. When I started seeing gold and silver coins sold in vending machines like candy bars, I realized that gold and silver were just a fools paradise. Are the people who are experts in gold and who are silver selling it to you as dumb as rocks? If it's going to be so valuable, why aren't they hoarding it themselves. The next money will be digital and the price of gold and silver will be priced accordingly, just like what happened in the 1930's. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32017112 03/20/2013 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's the conclusion I came to a long time a go. When the dollar crashes gold will be revalued to the "Amero" or "New Dollar". Hence, all of the people holding gold, (they think they're so smart), will get screwed with the rest of us. When I started seeing gold and silver coins sold in vending machines like candy bars, I realized that gold and silver were just a fools paradise. Are the people who are experts in gold and silver who are selling it to you as dumb as rocks? If it's going to be so valuable, why aren't they hoarding it themselves. The next money will be digital and the price of gold and silver will be priced accordingly, just like what happened in the 1930's. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6238205 03/20/2013 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Paul Farrell has been predicting the crash of stocks and bonds at various times for the last 3 years straight. Gloom and doom. Disaster. Apocalypse. If you listened to him you lost money. Maybe a lot of money! The only ticking time bomb is Mr. Farrell's credibility. Tick, tick, tick, boom. Some would argue his credibility has already exploded to smithereens a long time ago. Bonds will undoubtedly correct eventually. You don't need a crystal ball or a connection to a higher power to know that interest rates will have to go up again. However, most responsible economists forecast a slow drip similar to what happened from 2004 to 2006 when the Fed kept it orderly with gradual 1/4 point increases. They did this so that the markets would not over react. That's the most likely scenario the next time, not a bomb going off as Farrell would have you believe. Unfortunately, the question is how much money have some people already lost and will continue to lose if they listened to Farrell all the time they have been waiting for his predicted "crash," which is a word he loves to use with indiscriminate zeal" This guy gets it...from the comments there. Leave it to a GLP poster to attempt to interpret economics, and seek out the pessimisitc predictions and tout them as accurate, insightful news. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31593934 03/20/2013 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read that article because a subscriber. The flaw in their reasoning is that they think everyone's clamoring (or will soon be) to get back into stocks. Not going to happen on the scale they think it will. Quoting: telling it straight That's not what there saying,what there saying is when the fed begins to raise rates everyone in bonds are going to be forced into stocks |
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