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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32703521 03/20/2013 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | people claiming economic collapse will never happen have no leg to stand on. there is no historical precedent to point to as to why the global economy won't collapse. all economies collapse. you learn this the first week of econ 101. it's the fundamental truth of economics. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 777204 03/20/2013 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | people claiming economic collapse will never happen have no leg to stand on. there is no historical precedent to point to as to why the global economy won't collapse. all economies collapse. you learn this the first week of econ 101. it's the fundamental truth of economics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32703521 They basically believe Maria Bartiromo and the whole CNBC team oplus Ali Velshi over at CNN are uncorrupted Gods who would not lie to the American people, basically. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36541507 03/20/2013 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is staged ofc dude you're way behind...try to catch up. Quoting: No More Lies GLD and SLV are PAPER gold/silver used to FLOOD the markets with MORE "gold" and "silver" than actualy exist. It IS manipulation and it's too easy. When you can dump about 1/3 of ALL last year's silver production on the market in 5 minutes, of course prices are gonna drop like a rock. That is what happened about a month ago. The game continues until investors take possession of actual PM only to realize there is not NEAR enough to go around. okay, if its a manipulation "with MORE "gold" and "silver" than actualy exist", will it end somehow ? and when ? and dont say "soon" like i already said...it will continue until everyone realizes what a fraud it is. I can't put a date on it....you see they had to suppress the prices of gold/silver to mask the deteriorating condition of the dollar. by naked shorting and creating a massively overleveraged paper market (100:1 at a minimum) this was possible. The game will likely continue until faith is lost, same as in fiat currencies. Then there will be two prices: physical and paper...although theoretically the paper market would last less than 5 seconds because the fraud that it is would be obviously exposed. All economics --all--are faith based enterprises. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36542216 You have faith in the purchasing power of your fiat You have faith in the puchasing power of your PM We have faith that in the future these items will have value so we can eat,live etc. If the USD collapses to 1 percent of its current value,the debt problem is solved with a trillion dollar gold coin. BUT-that will piss off the VERY wealthy because the billions they made are worth nothing. They own the banks,the factories,and the politicians. History has shown that the masses get fleeced and the super wealthy do well. Always The dollar may collapse but the world system will have a fallback for that in place.The fall back may be PM,oil,food,but it will be in place,and probably already is now, before the system tanks. How do you protect yourself?Look at the scenario--Cash is scarce.MOST folks do not have anymore gold than a wedding band. Your pension is toast,your 401k is either taken or turned worthless. Your only hope is to be debt free,cash in hand,and PM in hand. Food prices will skyrocket-so have food stockpiled up to lower food costs. Energy will skyrocket so have firewood now,and a car that sips gas.If your home is yours make it an energy miser now. Only the big shots who control the game know the ins and outs of this.Just protect yourself now the best way possible,and hang on tight. I said before on this sight when I was a registered member,I can see a time when the majority of folks on earth are illiterate.Just controlled sheep. When gov cannot pay for schools,libraries,cops,etc we face a hard time. Our kids are in for a hell of a ride. One sure fire way to starve in the future will be to be a loner--you will need your neighbors,and they will need you.Hopefully you have a few good ones you can count on.Hopefully you are someone that others can count on. ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36545255 03/20/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we all know that this is going to end bad, the question is: when? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28952191 My outside timeline is 2015...IMO everything has to go perfectly for it not to fall apart before then though, unless they WANT it to. "During all of this, and you’ve got to remember that the dollar collapse is a big part of this, our country is going to have to be redone. I’ve seen - personally - a map of North America without borders. Done this year. The number 2015 was written across the top, and I believe that was meant as a year. Along with this map - in the same area where this was - was another map showing the United States cut up into sectors. I’m not talking about what people have seen on the internet, but something entirely different. Zones. And a big star on the city of Denver". [link to www.canadafreepress.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36541507 03/20/2013 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we all know that this is going to end bad, the question is: when? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28952191 My outside timeline is 2015...IMO everything has to go perfectly for it not to fall apart before then though, unless they WANT it to. "During all of this, and you’ve got to remember that the dollar collapse is a big part of this, our country is going to have to be redone. I’ve seen - personally - a map of North America without borders. Done this year. The number 2015 was written across the top, and I believe that was meant as a year. Along with this map - in the same area where this was - was another map showing the United States cut up into sectors. I’m not talking about what people have seen on the internet, but something entirely different. Zones. And a big star on the city of Denver". [link to www.canadafreepress.com] interesting...no more leaked infos since december? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36545255 03/20/2013 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we all know that this is going to end bad, the question is: when? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28952191 My outside timeline is 2015...IMO everything has to go perfectly for it not to fall apart before then though, unless they WANT it to. "During all of this, and you’ve got to remember that the dollar collapse is a big part of this, our country is going to have to be redone. I’ve seen - personally - a map of North America without borders. Done this year. The number 2015 was written across the top, and I believe that was meant as a year. Along with this map - in the same area where this was - was another map showing the United States cut up into sectors. I’m not talking about what people have seen on the internet, but something entirely different. Zones. And a big star on the city of Denver". [link to www.canadafreepress.com] interesting...no more leaked infos since december? DHS Insider update: It has begun [link to canadafreepress.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36604440 03/21/2013 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: No More Lies My outside timeline is 2015...IMO everything has to go perfectly for it not to fall apart before then though, unless they WANT it to. "During all of this, and you’ve got to remember that the dollar collapse is a big part of this, our country is going to have to be redone. I’ve seen - personally - a map of North America without borders. Done this year. The number 2015 was written across the top, and I believe that was meant as a year. Along with this map - in the same area where this was - was another map showing the United States cut up into sectors. I’m not talking about what people have seen on the internet, but something entirely different. Zones. And a big star on the city of Denver". [link to www.canadafreepress.com] interesting...no more leaked infos since december? DHS Insider update: It has begun [link to canadafreepress.com] Thx So the ultimate timeline for shtf remains the doom in gold n silver etfs price... Will be too late then to buy both, when all drop useless etfs paper |
| No More Lies (OP) User ID: 1178326 03/25/2013 06:45 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chris Martenson: The very idea that the worst-of-the-worst credit risks in the corporate world are now yielding less than 6% is even more absurd than anything that I observed during the height of the housing bubbles. Even the tiniest hiccup will wipe out the holders of those bonds, leaving them with, at best, pennies on the dollar. Let me be very clear here: What I see now in the bond market is at least an order of magnitude riskier than anything I saw in the housing bubble, and if/when it pops, the effects will be far, far worse. [link to www.zerohedge.com] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Laurence Kotlikoff “This morning, I moved my money out of the stock market . . . because I’m worried about Cyprus.” Dr. Kotlikoff explained his dire concern by saying, “The rich people are already running on these banks. That’s been going on for a year. . . . The everyday working people could start visibly running on these banks, and that could spread like wildfire throughout Southern Europe and Northern Europe and into the U.S. because we have a banking system that’s built to fail.” Dr. Kotlikoff also says, “It’s going to happen in the form of a crash in the bond market. Interest rates are going to skyrocket, and we’re probably going to have high inflation because the government is printing money out the wazoo.” [link to usawatchdog.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26789135 05/28/2013 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bond market is a reactionary forum, driven by interest rates. investors/money managers/ portfolio managers will always need to put money to work - there is always a market for bonds. You have to go out 25 years if you want a 4% coupon. Look at the third artcile down at w.gajonksfilmuniverse.blogspot.com - i found out about this guy on GLP - he writes about how everyone who talks about a market crash is in for a surpise - all compnies have attractove quarterly dividend payment plans - so what you can earn with a bank cd for two years - you can get in 6 months with a clue chip stock that pays dividends (and if the stock rises in px - even better). |