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A blackout at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant in Japan left three fuel storage pools without fresh cooling water for hours this week, the Associated Press reported, creating fresh fear that a meltdown could occur.

Now the company that runs the plant has announced they think they know what was behind the potentially disastrous power cut — a dead rat.

Tokyo Electric Power Company released this picture of the suspected culprit today
According to The New York Times, the plant's operators found the rat when they looked inside a faulty switchboard. It had burn marks on its body, suggesting it may have gnawed on a cable. The BBC says the animal was six inches long.

It was a worrying situation at the plant, which had suffered a triple meltdown in 2011 after a tsunami helped knock out cooling systems. Though the plant is technically in a "cold shutdown" phase with teams working to dismantle reactors, there were worries that a cooling-system malfunction could result in a new meltdown if the heat of spent nuclear fuel was allowed to rise.

The spent fuel is especially worrying, The New York Times reports, as they contain far more radioactive material than the reactor cores that melted down in 2011. That meltdown was the worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl. It is believed the damage will take decades to clean up.

Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun reports that Tokyo Electric Power Company is facing "sharp criticism" for its response to the power cut, and the "lax practices" that enabled it.


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That is bullshit.

There were three separate power distribution boxes affected.

Did the rat disable two of them before dying at the third..?
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That is bullshit.

There were three separate power distribution boxes affected.

Did the rat disable two of them before dying at the third..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


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That is bullshit.

There were three separate power distribution boxes affected.

Did the rat disable two of them before dying at the third..?
 Quoting: Waterbug



3 PDBs just stopped working..?



Cooling restored at 2 Fukushima reactors
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]

[snip]

The momentary power failure just before 7 PM on Monday suspended cooling systems for the No. 1, 3 and 4 reactors as well as a shared pool for spent fuel in the plant's compound.

TEPCO officials later found that 3 power distribution boards had stopped working. The utility repaired two of the boards, but could not fix the third and instead used an emergency power generator to restore the cooling system for the No. 4 reactor's fuel pool.
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by the way the restore any of them?
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by the way the restore any of them?
 Quoting: Luisport


Yes..


[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
TEPCO said the problems began when 3 power distribution boards stopped working.

The utility said it restored 2 of the boards, and all the cooling systems were functioning again by shortly past midnight on Wednesday.


The utility is installing back-up power sources for the spent-fuel pools.


...



The fact that it took a power outage to impel them to install back-up sources,
two years into the crisis, is illustrative of the reactive mentality of Tepco.
They are incapable of forethought and preventative measures.

It is merely a matter of time until the entire house of cards
known as 'cold shutdown at fuku' tumbles..

It is unfathomable that those people were given nuclear technology.
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by the way the restore any of them?
 Quoting: Luisport


Yes..


[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
TEPCO said the problems began when 3 power distribution boards stopped working.

The utility said it restored 2 of the boards, and all the cooling systems were functioning again by shortly past midnight on Wednesday.


The utility is installing back-up power sources for the spent-fuel pools.


...



The fact that it took a power outage to impel them to install back-up sources,
two years into the crisis, is illustrative of the reactive mentality of Tepco.
They are incapable of forethought and preventative measures.

It is merely a matter of time until the entire house of cards
known as 'cold shutdown at fuku' tumbles..

It is unfathomable that those people were given nuclear technology.
 Quoting: Waterbug


WOW, they are crazy or radioactivity is affecting theire brain cells?
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A couple more examples..

The natural sea barrier at Fuku was excavated to allow easy unloading of materials from cargo ships..
and to provide bulk material for fill to build the plant.

The artificial seawall that was installed was too low to protect the plant from the tsunami.

Backup generators and power distribution stations were installed below sea level...
at a plant built beside the ocean..
in a country with a history of earthquakes and tsunamis.

This link will provide verification of these points..

[link to fukushima.over-blog.fr]
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Re: Japan's Fukushima Plant May Have Been Brought Worryingly Close To Another Nuclear Meltdown By A Hungry Rat!!!
A couple more examples..

The natural sea barrier at Fuku was excavated to allow easy unloading of materials from cargo ships..
and to provide bulk material for fill to build the plant.

The artificial seawall that was installed was too low to protect the plant from the tsunami.

Backup generators and power distribution stations were installed below sea level...
at a plant built beside the ocean..
in a country with a history of earthquakes and tsunamis.

This link will provide verification of these points..

[link to fukushima.over-blog.fr]
 Quoting: Waterbug


dynamiteshocked They want to kill us all!!
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A couple more examples..

The natural sea barrier at Fuku was excavated to allow easy unloading of materials from cargo ships..
and to provide bulk material for fill to build the plant.

The artificial seawall that was installed was too low to protect the plant from the tsunami.

Backup generators and power distribution stations were installed below sea level...
at a plant built beside the ocean..
in a country with a history of earthquakes and tsunamis.

This link will provide verification of these points..

[link to fukushima.over-blog.fr]
 Quoting: Waterbug


dynamiteshocked They want to kill us all!!
 Quoting: Luisport


It blows my mind to think that this level of incompetence is
allowed to continue in the nuclear industry.

It exists in every facet, in every country, in every location.

The proof of my statement is the fact that nuclear waste has accrued
at every nuclear plant in the world since the first
day of power generation..
with no plan for permanent storage in sight.



[link to www.intoeternitythemovie.com]

Facts about nuclear waste

High-level nuclear waste is the inevitable end result of nuclear energy production.
The waste will remain radioactive and/or radiotoxic for at least 100 000 years.
It is estimated that the total amount of high-level nuclear waste in the world today is between 250 000 and 300 000 tons.
The amount of waste increases daily.


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No wonder the Japanese lost WW2.

Talk about muddled thinking in the extreme.
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Re: Japan's Fukushima Plant May Have Been Brought Worryingly Close To Another Nuclear Meltdown By A Hungry Rat!!!
A couple more examples..

The natural sea barrier at Fuku was excavated to allow easy unloading of materials from cargo ships..
and to provide bulk material for fill to build the plant.

The artificial seawall that was installed was too low to protect the plant from the tsunami.

Backup generators and power distribution stations were installed below sea level...
at a plant built beside the ocean..
in a country with a history of earthquakes and tsunamis.

This link will provide verification of these points..

[link to fukushima.over-blog.fr]
 Quoting: Waterbug


dynamiteshocked They want to kill us all!!
 Quoting: Luisport


It blows my mind to think that this level of incompetence is
allowed to continue in the nuclear industry.

It exists in every facet, in every country, in every location.

The proof of my statement is the fact that nuclear waste has accrued
at every nuclear plant in the world since the first
day of power generation..
with no plan for permanent storage in sight.



[link to www.intoeternitythemovie.com]

Facts about nuclear waste

High-level nuclear waste is the inevitable end result of nuclear energy production.
The waste will remain radioactive and/or radiotoxic for at least 100 000 years.
It is estimated that the total amount of high-level nuclear waste in the world today is between 250 000 and 300 000 tons.
The amount of waste increases daily.


head
 Quoting: Waterbug


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No wonder the Japanese lost WW2.

Talk about muddled thinking in the extreme.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20589235


They are a 'top down' society.
They rely on those above to tell them what to do.
This was the ultimate cause in their failure to
safeguard the nuclear plant from meltdown.
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Sorry for killing the thread, L.

No one wants to face the reality of Fuku.

My bad.
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Sorry for killing the thread, L.

No one wants to face the reality of Fuku.

My bad.
 Quoting: Waterbug


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Sorry for killing the thread, L.

No one wants to face the reality of Fuku.

My bad.
 Quoting: Waterbug


This is so so bad that people have affraid to even think about it!
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Sorry for killing the thread, L.

No one wants to face the reality of Fuku.

My bad.
 Quoting: Waterbug


This is so so bad that people have affraid to even think about it!
 Quoting: Luisport


To understand what happened at Fuku is to acknowledge that
it could happen here... at any time.
If I were to share everything that I have learned about
the nuclear industry, it would scare the pants off of everyone.
I keep most of it to myself.
Besides.. they don't even want to know.
Can't say I blame them.
There is very little that an individual can do about it.

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Sorry for killing the thread, L.

No one wants to face the reality of Fuku.

My bad.
 Quoting: Waterbug


This is so so bad that people have affraid to even think about it!
 Quoting: Luisport


To understand what happened at Fuku is to acknowledge that
it could happen here... at any time.
If I were to share everything that I have learned about
the nuclear industry, it would scare the pants off of everyone.
I keep most of it to myself.
Besides.. they don't even want to know.
Can't say I blame them.
There is very little that an individual can do about it.

sleep
 Quoting: Waterbug


hf i'd like to know... maby by mail?
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a rat?

wtf

utter bullshit.
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Sorry for killing the thread, L.

No one wants to face the reality of Fuku.

My bad.
 Quoting: Waterbug


This is so so bad that people have affraid to even think about it!
 Quoting: Luisport


To understand what happened at Fuku is to acknowledge that
it could happen here... at any time.



 Quoting: Waterbug


hf i'd like to know... maby by mail?
 Quoting: Luisport


I will tell you about the reactors that melted down at Fuku.
This is most illustrative of the attitude of the nuclear complex.

The GE Mark I reactor is a flawed design.
The pressure vessel was too small to prevent the disaster.
Tests proved that containment would be lost in a loss of cooling event...
precisely what transpired at Fukushima-Daiichi.
GE's own scientists resigned in protest.
They continued using them, anyway..
There are 23 of those same reactors in use in the US today.


Fukushima: Mark 1 Nuclear Reactor Design Caused GE Scientist To Quit In Protest
[link to abcnews.go.com]

23 US reactors share design with failed Japan nukes
[link to www.gazette.com]

This is what GE had to say about it.. from march 16, 2011
[link to www.gereports.com]


When I began researching and posting about nuclear issues and Fuku 2 years ago, I was shilled heavily..
They finally gave up.

The fact is.. I see through their facile propaganda and respond with overwhelming logic... this they cannot abide.
They do not enjoy being made out to be fools.
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This is so so bad that people have affraid to even think about it!
 Quoting: Luisport


To understand what happened at Fuku is to acknowledge that
it could happen here... at any time.



 Quoting: Waterbug


hf i'd like to know... maby by mail?
 Quoting: Luisport


I will tell you about the reactors that melted down at Fuku.
This is most illustrative of the attitude of the nuclear complex.

The GE Mark I reactor is a flawed design.
The pressure vessel was too small to prevent the disaster.
Tests proved that containment would be lost in a loss of cooling event...
precisely what transpired at Fukushima-Daiichi.
GE's own scientists resigned in protest.
They continued using them, anyway..
There are 23 of those same reactors in use in the US today.


Fukushima: Mark 1 Nuclear Reactor Design Caused GE Scientist To Quit In Protest
[link to abcnews.go.com]

23 US reactors share design with failed Japan nukes
[link to www.gazette.com]

This is what GE had to say about it.. from march 16, 2011
[link to www.gereports.com]


When I began researching and posting about nuclear issues and Fuku 2 years ago, I was shilled heavily..
They finally gave up.

The fact is.. I see through their facile propaganda and respond with overwhelming logic... this they cannot abide.
They do not enjoy being made out to be fools.
 Quoting: Waterbug


bump
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Fairewinds Responds to Power Failure at Fukushima Daiichi
[link to fairewinds.org]
 Quoting: Southern OR


Fukushima plant outage reveals lack of backup power source 2 years after crisis outbreak
[link to mainichi.jp]

[snip]

It was the plant's first major blackout that affected multiple facilities for longer than 24 hours since the onset of the nuclear crisis, sending shivers throughout the country. The switchboard is connected to the cooling systems for the spent fuel pools of the No. 3 and No. 4 reactors as well as a shared pool, according to TEPCO. The malfunction of the switchboard is suspected to have further affected other equipment connected to it by cables.

The blackout also revealed TEPCO's lack of measures against small animals, such as the use of rodent deterrents and other medical agents. Because the switchboard's container has a half-open door to lead in cables, "it leaves the system vulnerable" to place the switchboard outdoors compared to inside the highly-sealable plant buildings, said TEPCO officials.
 Quoting: Waterbug
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Fairewinds Responds to Power Failure at Fukushima Daiichi

Two nights ago, an electrical component at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plants in Japan lost power, affecting the plants’ ability to cool their radioactive fuel rods. Since the earthquake and tsunami hit the Fukushima Daiichi plant in 2011 causing three meltdowns, the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) says it has been working on repairs and maintenance at the severely damaged and non-operational plants. More than 100,000 people are still not allowed back in their homes due to significant radiation contamination, the entirety of which may never be cleaned up. This latest incident of power loss at the Fukushima Daiichi plants comes a week after the two year anniversary of the tsunami and ensuing meltdowns.

After a one day delay with no cooling to the three spent fuel pools, TEPCO finally restored power. Is TEPCO doing an adequate job of keeping the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power site safe?

We don’t think so. TEPCO’s primary job at the Fukushima Daiichi site is to keep the plants in the static equilibrium of what the nuclear industry calls a “cold shutdown” by cooling radioactive fuel rods in spent fuel pools. Losing power to one spent fuel pool might be understandable, but to have such a massive power failure last almost 24 hours is unconscionable. Because this problem lasted almost one day, and because several cooling systems were simultaneously disabled, Fairewinds believes that a common electrical component is the equipment that failed, likely a junction box or a transformer. Nuclear plants are supposed to be built to be single failure proof, meaning that if one component fails the systems still remain operational via other equipment. The loss of spent fuel pool cooling simultaneously in three nuclear reactors means that a common mode failure, or worse yet a single failure, was somehow allowed to occur in TEPCO’s jury-rigged design. This simply should never happen.

TEPCO claims that there was no radiation release from this recent power failure, but that is a scientific impossibility. When power is lost in a spent fuel pool, the radioactive fuel rods heat the pools up. As the pools heat up, evaporation increases resulting in a white “smoke” (steam). That steam is radioactive, containing some of the radiation that was previously in the pool. As the water warms up, radiation releases will increase. The water temperature is presently around 30-35C, which means that the cold shutdown limit of 65C will be exceeded in 4 to 5 days, and boiling will occur in about 8-10 days. Fairewinds does not yet believe another evacuation is necessary, however, there will be an increase in radioactive releases if the pools approach boiling.

The situation at Fukushima is a strategic disaster. TEPCO was not prepared for the tsunami two years ago, and they still do not truly appreciate the magnitude of the situation. The amount of cesium remaining in each spent fuel pool is equivalent to the releases of hundreds of nuclear bombs. A spent fuel pool fire would risk contamination of the entire Northern Hemisphere. Yesterday’s power loss is further proof that the conditions at Fukushima Daiichi are still unstable, despite what TEPCO and the Japanese and US governments say.

We at Fairewinds want to know what emergency procedures TEPCO has in place for this and future emergencies. TEPCO should be able to find alternative sources of electricity to power the cooling pumps in the case of ongoing power loss. In the worst case scenario, TEPCO could add water to the pool through fire hoses to make up for evaporative loss that will occur. We also recommend that TEPCO go back over its design to see what other weak points exist, particularly seismic weaknesses in light of ongoing seismic activity.

In December of 2011 when TEPCO announced that they had safely contained the Fukushima Daiichi plants in a cold shutdown, Arnie commented “Well, to me this announcement sounds a little bit like George Bush on the deck of the aircraft carrier declaring that the mission has been accomplished. In fact, we all know how that turned out, and I think Fukushima is going down a very similar road. This is a long battle and it is far from being over.” Two years later, it’s still far from over.

sam's blog [link to fairewinds.org]
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That is bullshit.

There were three separate power distribution boxes affected.

Did the rat disable two of them before dying at the third..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


lolsign
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mutated rats are smart - 100 times smarter
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That is bullshit.

There were three separate power distribution boxes affected.

Did the rat disable two of them before dying at the third..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


lolsign
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mutated rats are smart - 100 times smarter
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But they are really dangerous as the muted rats always use their intelligence to develop nuke weapons...

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