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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6406905 Canada 03/20/2013 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Barack Obama has said Israel has "no greater friend" than the US, as he makes his first visit to the country as president. Arriving in Tel Aviv, Mr Obama told PM Benjamin Netanyahu the US was proud to be Israel's "strongest ally", and that "peace must come to the Holy Land". One recent Israeli opinion poll suggested a mere 10% of the public had a favourable opinion of the US president. [link to www.bbc.co.uk] |
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GuidedOne User ID: 36553992 Lebanon 03/20/2013 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who came up with the nickname Bibi and why is Obama keep calling him that, i thought they hated each other or at least Netanyahu hates him? Id rather die enormous than live dormant Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in |
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Sleeping Giant User ID: 543618 United States 03/20/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who came up with the nickname Bibi and why is Obama keep calling him that, i thought they hated each other or at least Netanyahu hates him? Quoting: GuidedOne Make no mistake, they are not friends. The next POTUS will have so damage control ahead of him/her. I was in and out, what did BiBi say about a 10 year plan between US and Israel? Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6406905 Canada 03/20/2013 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who came up with the nickname Bibi and why is Obama keep calling him that, i thought they hated each other or at least Netanyahu hates him? Quoting: GuidedOne Make no mistake, they are not friends. The next POTUS will have so damage control ahead of him/her. I was in and out, what did BiBi say about a 10 year plan between US and Israel? missed it. |
ASV User ID: 16907839 United States 03/20/2013 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who came up with the nickname Bibi and why is Obama keep calling him that, i thought they hated each other or at least Netanyahu hates him? Quoting: GuidedOne Obama is a great actor. I really think he despises Bibi and Israel. Yes. But Obama is a MASTER polician (much like Bill Clinton although the 2 of them have vastly different temperaments & backgrounds). And so of course he will lie & skilly couch his contempt with politically-important sound-bites & symbols. For instance: he recognizes the (extremely obvious) fact of Jewish 3,300 year connection & superior claims to the land of Israel. That should be game.set.and match, right? That even decads & billions of dollars worth of oil-funded Muslim-Marxist propaganda can't combat? Right? Well, it should be very simply but it's not. For instance, even though Obama is saying all the right things, you can read between the lines and recognize the familiar double-talking, equivocating patttern commonly used by anti-Israeli propagandists 1) Obama doesn't REALLY recognize the modern Jews as Jews per se. 2) Obama's version of Israel would be even tinier, indefensible and without Jerusalem the heart and soul of Judaism & Zionism. Might as well be spokeperson for Hamas |
Sleeping Giant User ID: 543618 United States 03/20/2013 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who came up with the nickname Bibi and why is Obama keep calling him that, i thought they hated each other or at least Netanyahu hates him? Quoting: GuidedOne Obama is a great actor. I really think he despises Bibi and Israel. Yes. But Obama is a MASTER polician (much like Bill Clinton although the 2 of them have vastly different temperaments & backgrounds). And so of course he will lie & skilly couch his contempt with politically-important sound-bites & symbols. For instance: he recognizes the (extremely obvious) fact of Jewish 3,300 year connection & superior claims to the land of Israel. That should be game.set.and match, right? That even decads & billions of dollars worth of oil-funded Muslim-Marxist propaganda can't combat? Right? Well, it should be very simply but it's not. For instance, even though Obama is saying all the right things, you can read between the lines and recognize the familiar double-talking, equivocating patttern commonly used by anti-Israeli propagandists 1) Obama doesn't REALLY recognize the modern Jews as Jews per se. 2) Obama's version of Israel would be even tinier, indefensible and without Jerusalem the heart and soul of Judaism & Zionism. Might as well be spokeperson for Hamas Interesting that you say that. Check this out, which echo your points. The White House has released what it says is a map of Israel. The only problem is that Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the Golan Heights are missing. An Obama administration video highlighting the president’s plans for his Mideast trip depicts Jerusalem, the Golan and the West Bank – also known as Judea and Samaria – as non-Israeli territory. The Washington Free Beacon, which first reported the discrepancies, noted the video shows the Golan Heights as part of Syria; Jerusalem is depicted as part of the West Bank; and northern Israel is shown as part of Lebanon. WND reported in August 2012 when the White House refused to name the capital of Israel – not once, but twice – as the two most senior White House correspondents cornered Obama’s press secretary, doggedly questioning him on whether the Obama administration considered Jerusalem or Tel Aviv to be the capital of the Jewish state. The itinerary on the White House website further implies that Jerusalem is not Israel’s capital or even part of Israel, reported the Free Beacon. Obama’s schedule lists two stops in “Tel Aviv, Israel” and one in “Amman, Jordan,” while his trip to Israel’s capital city is identified as taking place only in “Jerusalem.” [link to www.wnd.com] Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you |
ASV User ID: 16907839 United States 03/20/2013 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who came up with the nickname Bibi and why is Obama keep calling him that, i thought they hated each other or at least Netanyahu hates him? Quoting: GuidedOne 1) Bibi is affectionate short version of Benjamin, I think. Not sure. 2) It's not Netanyahu who hates Obama. It's the other way around. 3) Press conference, pomp and circumstance... that's just diplomacy 101. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36247623 United States 03/20/2013 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WATCH for a 7 year peace treaty resulting in this visit, the unsuspecting public will just go "oh, an agreement until 2020..that makes sense", but we know whats up... Thread: MARCH 22 Significance, Need help brainstorming!!! (Page 6) |
ASV User ID: 16907839 United States 03/20/2013 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who came up with the nickname Bibi and why is Obama keep calling him that, i thought they hated each other or at least Netanyahu hates him? Quoting: GuidedOne Obama is a great actor. I really think he despises Bibi and Israel. Yes. But Obama is a MASTER polician (much like Bill Clinton although the 2 of them have vastly different temperaments & backgrounds). And so of course he will lie & skilly couch his contempt with politically-important sound-bites & symbols. For instance: he recognizes the (extremely obvious) fact of Jewish 3,300 year connection & superior claims to the land of Israel. That should be game.set.and match, right? That even decads & billions of dollars worth of oil-funded Muslim-Marxist propaganda can't combat? Right? Well, it should be very simply but it's not. For instance, even though Obama is saying all the right things, you can read between the lines and recognize the familiar double-talking, equivocating patttern commonly used by anti-Israeli propagandists 1) Obama doesn't REALLY recognize the modern Jews as Jews per se. 2) Obama's version of Israel would be even tinier, indefensible and without Jerusalem the heart and soul of Judaism & Zionism. Might as well be spokeperson for Hamas Interesting that you say that. Check this out, which echo your points. The White House has released what it says is a map of Israel. The only problem is that Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the Golan Heights are missing. An Obama administration video highlighting the president’s plans for his Mideast trip depicts Jerusalem, the Golan and the West Bank – also known as Judea and Samaria – as non-Israeli territory. The Washington Free Beacon, which first reported the discrepancies, noted the video shows the Golan Heights as part of Syria; Jerusalem is depicted as part of the West Bank; and northern Israel is shown as part of Lebanon. WND reported in August 2012 when the White House refused to name the capital of Israel – not once, but twice – as the two most senior White House correspondents cornered Obama’s press secretary, doggedly questioning him on whether the Obama administration considered Jerusalem or Tel Aviv to be the capital of the Jewish state. The itinerary on the White House website further implies that Jerusalem is not Israel’s capital or even part of Israel, reported the Free Beacon. Obama’s schedule lists two stops in “Tel Aviv, Israel” and one in “Amman, Jordan,” while his trip to Israel’s capital city is identified as taking place only in “Jerusalem.” [link to www.wnd.com] Well, duh. Devil's in the details & nuances... and that's why Obama's countless proclaimations of love for Israel is meaningless. Especially if you know his background: Indonesia, Pakistan, marxist circles at Columbia, streets of Southside Chicago & pews of "Reverend" Jeremiah Wright, William Ayres & Louis Farrakhan. And the only reason why military cooperation with Israel hasn't been cut during Obama's tenure is because: 1) Obama can't do it without committing political suicide. 2) After Arab Spring chaos, Israel has gone from being strategically "important" to strategically "critically important" as the ONLY reliable ally left in the region (Jordan will fall to Muslim Brotherhood during the next food crisis) Obama is anything BUT stupid. |
ReVbo™ User ID: 16860056 United States 03/20/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who knows, but one thing is for sure. They ain't gonna tell you nothin' at this press conference. Hey there ReVbo. You're right. They would have to be knee deep in the shit that had already hit the fan before they'd show their cards. I haven't watched the press conference or read anything about it, but let me take a stab at how it went... Obama and Netanyahoo discussed the security situation in Isreal, agreed to work toward peace in the region, and reaffirmed the strong alliance between the two nations. How'd I do? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6406905 Canada 03/20/2013 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "We prefer to resolve this diplomatically, and there's still time to do so," he said. "Iran's leaders must understand, however, that they must meet their international obligations." Still time? We've been running out of time for like 2+ years now. Iran should have completed it's nuke work by now, right? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6406905 Canada 03/20/2013 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who knows, but one thing is for sure. They ain't gonna tell you nothin' at this press conference. Hey there ReVbo. You're right. They would have to be knee deep in the shit that had already hit the fan before they'd show their cards. I haven't watched the press conference or read anything about it, but let me take a stab at how it went... Obama and Netanyahoo discussed the security situation in Isreal, agreed to work toward peace in the region, and reaffirmed the strong alliance between the two nations. How'd I do? I think you did watch it. Lol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36543519 United States 03/20/2013 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who came up with the nickname Bibi and why is Obama keep calling him that, i thought they hated each other or at least Netanyahu hates him? Quoting: GuidedOne Make no mistake, they are not friends. The next POTUS will have so damage control ahead of him/her. I was in and out, what did BiBi say about a 10 year plan between US and Israel? missed it. IS THIS THE START OF THE 7 YRS PEACE TREATY THAT GETS BROKEN IN 3.5YRS ACCD TO BIBLICAL PROPHECY? (student of all forms of prophecy here) |
Sleeping Giant User ID: 543618 United States 03/20/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Wash Make no mistake, they are not friends. The next POTUS will have so damage control ahead of him/her. I was in and out, what did BiBi say about a 10 year plan between US and Israel? missed it. IS THIS THE START OF THE 7 YRS PEACE TREATY THAT GETS BROKEN IN 3.5YRS ACCD TO BIBLICAL PROPHECY? (student of all forms of prophecy here) It was definitely between US and Israel, not any arab country. Edit: Not to say that doesn't happen later. Last Edited by Sleeping Giant on 03/20/2013 12:50 PM Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you |
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