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Hello, I'm wondering if anyone on GLP has any experience with medical practice and could help me...

A year ago I had a lumbar puncture perform on myself, before the procedure went ahead the Doctor asked me if I wouldn't mind allowing a student to take part it this, I was assure that she would be under full supervision and that she knew what she was doing... I was also told that if there was any problems then she would take over... I agreed as every one deserve a chance to learn... I was laying down when the procedure was done the doctor allowed the student 5 attempts to do the LP before she stepped in while the student was doing the procedure the I could here the doctor saying and I quote

Nope thats the tendon, No you don't want to go in that direction thats bone, No you don't want go there you have gone to far up, and no thats the wrong angle...

then the doctor took over and had 7 attempts at it herself...

I would understand the difficulty if I was of large build as I know it is a blind procedure and I appreciate that its not as easy as it sounds but I am of quite a slim build and I remain very still and didn't complain at all...

the procedure took 80 minutes... when they finally obtain the fluid they needed they dropped the dressing they were meant to apply to my back... the doctor thankfully went of to get a new one but she said she could find the right type so she stuck a dressing around 6 x 6 inch the dressing was plaster type... I was laid there with out a dressing for a period of 3 - 5 minutes...

It wasn't until I sat up that I was told to stay laid down as soon as I sat up and went to move of the bed I just fell back didn't lose conciousness how ever I did spin out...

I was laying down for 3 hours before being discharged as the couldn't find any bleed...

A head ache occurred within 7 hours and I couldn't stand or move at all for that matter when I even held in going to the toilet until the next day, due to the shear amount of pain I was in, now I can barely do what I used to be able to do I used to be out ward bound and the only work I'm qualified to do is security and building work that means I have to go back to college to gain a qualification to work in a different trade as I cannot do the physical work I used to I am more depressed and I now go to the toilet more as a result from the lumbar puncture I'm always in pain I'm at my ends witt with the pain now...

I don't hold the student responsible as the doctor in m opinion was meant to stop her after 2 or 3 attempts and the fact that the doctor her self is meant to be able to complete the procedure in less then 7 attempts I am now considering seeking legal advice against the NHS due to the change to my life and my personality I lost my job and I have became more depressed from this as I said its a year on and I'm still experiencing back pain to a very noticeable extent and I have had a head ache every day for a year, my spine makes a clicking and a thudding sound when I stand up which makes my legs go week and I collapse to the floor most of the time It also makes me sleepy when my spine aches... is there anything I can do to help the pain now ??
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You need an attorney.
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You need an attorney.
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see that is what I'm unsure of my only witness is my wife and that can be considered as a conflict of interest and I hate this as I know there are so many people who con the system and I have always been a worker I always have provided for my family plus I'm 22 so I'm afraid that would be frowned upon
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Get an attorney and do it fast. You have a limited amount of time to do so.

Start calling now. It shouldn't cost you anything, the attorney will want around 30% of the settlement. Don't let that stop you from signing with a good attorney. 70% of a settlement is better than 70% of zero
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Just because your witness is your wife does not make her a non-credible witness. Call an attorney TODAY.
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Get an attorney and do it fast. You have a limited amount of time to do so.

Start calling now. It shouldn't cost you anything, the attorney will want around 30% of the settlement. Don't let that stop you from signing with a good attorney. 70% of a settlement is better than 70% of zero
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very true I am considering a no win no fee company to help me out... its the pain that is more unbearable and I keep getting passed from pillar to post and I have had enough now its been a year and I am still no closer to finding out what has gone on they don't even know what is the cause for me to actually been emitted to hospital in the first place...

The symptoms I displayed was mirrored to a stroke I lost the use to the left side of my body I have it back now but my mind isn't the same now...
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Just because your witness is your wife does not make her a non-credible witness. Call an attorney TODAY.
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thank you... I will call one tomorrow as its 9 30 here in UK lool... its just a shame the way the law and government work together...
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God that sounds awful , I would defintely get some legal advice try Citizens Advice , at 22 you really don t need complications from amedical blunder blighting your life , sounds like neglect to me......it shouldn't take 80 to do a lumbar puncture as its supposed to be pretty straightforward albeit unpleasant....

I hope you get this resolved.....
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If your story is true, holy shit do they have inferior care there vs U.S.
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God that sounds awful , I would defintely get some legal advice try Citizens Advice , at 22 you really don t need complications from amedical blunder blighting your life , sounds like neglect to me......it shouldn't take 80 to do a lumbar puncture as its supposed to be pretty straightforward albeit unpleasant....

I hope you get this resolved.....
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thank you for your concern...

I karma pinned this to get more advice on this...

I am responsible for my family as in I bring up my 12 year old sister in law with my wife and that isn't cheap either and aside from money I used to always be taking the lil girl out for walks and outings to help her express her feelings since her mum passed away, and she her self has suffered from this and its painful to see it day by day same for my wife as we always used to go on walks now we can't do this its a personal let down and losing my job made us homeless and we now have no stable living accommodation...
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If your story is true, holy shit do they have inferior care there vs U.S.
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...just wait 5 years until Obamacare is fully implemented.
You seem to have no clue what is coming.
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wtf is a lumbar puncture?
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If your story is true, holy shit do they have inferior care there vs U.S.
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100 percent true...

I chose to stay quiet for so long as I had tried countless times to get back to work as it is something I enjoy but I cannot last in a job as my back gives out on me everyday and some days are so bad I need to take time of work I left bed ridden from it which I hate with a passion I know there are people who are worse of then me but it still doesn't count for the suffering I endure if its this bad for me I feel for those in worse condition then myself but in a way at least they know what is up with them selves I am left in limbo in the dark and it quite embarrassing for myself as I was always brough up in the old school way of the man being the provider now I cannot do that even though I fight hard for it I end up lacking behind and even when I go to the shops I sometimes can't make it there... I used to do MMA shooting camping running weights and now I do none of it as I can't support mself and I never know when my back will give way on me I can't shoot like that I would end up slugging some one or the recoil would jar my spine
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wtf is a lumbar puncture?
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[link to www.nhs.uk]
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Haven't read your post...just saw the headline.

This is common. Call your doctor. You probably have a leak in your CSF, and they need to do a patch so it stops leaking.

Pretty common.
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Trying to sue the NHS is near impossible and costly, I doubt you will find a solicitor who will want to take on the case.

The NHS is a joke, if I could afford private health care I would get it in a heartbeat, but its too costly.

The hospitals here aren't hospitals anymore, they are just pits full of immigrants from the Caribbean or the Philippines.

Our GPs are worse, if you can get a fucking appointment with one, they are a fucking bigger joke then the hospitals.
The receptionists are just ignorant cunts, the doctors can't speak English.

This country has become the dumping ground for the worlds shit.

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Haven't read your post...just saw the headline.

This is common. Call your doctor. You probably have a leak in your CSF, and they need to do a patch so it stops leaking.

Pretty common.
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appreciated as not everyone will have the time to read it all how ever its been a year and a leak now it supposedly impossible its a year on now and I have been back and forth to the doctors still no solution
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what state was it in?
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Trying to sue the NHS is near impossible and costly, I doubt you will find a solicitor who will want to take on the case.

The NHS is a joke, if I could afford private health care I would get it in a heartbeat, but its too costly.

The hospitals here aren't hospitals anymore, they are just pits full of immigrants from the Caribbean or the Philippines.

Our GPs are worse, if you can get a fucking appointment with one, they are a fucking bigger joke then the hospitals.
The receptionists are just ignorant cunts, the doctors can't speak English.

This country has become the dumping ground for the worlds shit.

rant
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that maybe so buddy but I got to try something to set the score right if not at least cause some form of a stir to make sure no one else goes through what I have the doctors I had were British but I know what you mean with the phillipinos nothing against them they can do the job then fair enough its just the people who make the policies and police them that need to rethink hard their strategy
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lawyer up ASAP
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What was the initial reason you went to have this procedure performed? And why did you wait so long to do anything about it?

If the physician is able to prove that this was pre-existing, your screwed.
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Try these op and sue the cunts for all you can.

Fuck them and their negligence.
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what state was it in?
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UK, Wiltshire, Salisbury to be exact which is military influenced but It was Civi doctor and student who dealt with me
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Something pretty similar happened to me at the Royal Liverpool University Hospital whilst being diagnosed for Guillian Barre Syndrome. In a weird way the longer they took the better for me as I was becoming more an more paralysed by the minute. It fuckin hurt though. My headache lasted for a week. I thought I was dead. 1st time I've heard a similar story. My sympathy to you
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When I had mine done by my neurologist she held the vials of fluid up and said, "This is like gold".

Then I was marked for alien consumption
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Op I do not know what UK laws are for patient's rights.

I am a nurse with many years of bedside care in the hospital setting.

If I as a nurse could not get a peripheral IV in you within 3 attempts, we are to bring another nurse in to then attempt the IV.

I was always taught anything greater then 3 attempts on 1 person could be interpreted by the law as assault.

Just like if you are in a hospital and told you are to only stay in your hospital room by staff for whatever reason.Lets say you decide to walk around the hospital floor outside your room but the nurses and staff block you from leaving that room.........they could be charged with false imprisonment.

Not only can your wife be your witness but your best witness because she saw both the procedure and your physical decline afterward.

My advice ASAP get an attorney, get a copy of all your medical records related to the situation.

Also I hope you have been under an MD's care since this happened because if you are, it should reflect the decline in your health.If not get,one at once and get that lumbar puncture site examined asap with mri etc.

I personally think you have a good basis to have your situation looked at by the courts. In all my years of nursing, I have never seen or heard of a lumbar puncture that brutal.

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What was the initial reason you went to have this procedure performed? And why did you wait so long to do anything about it?

If the physician is able to prove that this was pre-existing, your screwed.
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what is was, I used to work security but my wife was being rushed into hospital so I left work early and was attacked I hit my head on a brick wall, I had no lump no cut no nothing not even pain a month later I collapsed at work but didnt lose conciousness but I lost the use of the left side of my body I went to the doctors the next day who called an ambulance and I spent the night in hospital they thought it may have been a bleed on the brain the done a CT scan, it came back clear they were going to do a MRI before the lumbar puncture but they skipped ahead they still found nothing in the form of a bleed but they still passed it of as delayed head trauma...

to note I had a virus of some sort a week before I collapsed and I was being over worked I was doing 15+ hours a day retail security work with a hour break split into 4 15 minute breaks through the days...

also its a year on and I was aware that symptoms can persist for months after but from what I have seen and read of other cases what I'm experiencing is unusual to say the least and I have tried hard to get back into work to provide for my family but with no prevail which is why I have now decided enough is enough and plus I have been back and forth to doctors through out the year and still no closer to knowing what is going on...
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I had a "wet tap" while in labor with my 2nd child. I got the "spinal headache" very shortly after and it was an absolute nightmare. I had 3 blood patch procedures to close the puncture spot but the doctor told me that I now knew what it felt like to be shot in the head. Great!!! I did consult an attorney but the consent that I signed for the epidural was comprehensive. The headaches did go away after a few weeks but the back pain did continue for quite some time. It has been over 10 years and while I am not in pain daily, my lower back is extremely sensitive which I have learned to deal with. Just rest, heat and ice alternately, and a back brace is what helped me get through it. Hope you find relief soon.
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Get an attorney and do it fast. You have a limited amount of time to do so.

Start calling now. It shouldn't cost you anything, the attorney will want around 30% of the settlement. Don't let that stop you from signing with a good attorney. 70% of a settlement is better than 70% of zero
 Quoting: ella


very true I am considering a no win no fee company to help me out... its the pain that is more unbearable and I keep getting passed from pillar to post and I have had enough now its been a year and I am still no closer to finding out what has gone on they don't even know what is the cause for me to actually been emitted to hospital in the first place...

The symptoms I displayed was mirrored to a stroke I lost the use to the left side of my body I have it back now but my mind isn't the same now...
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Then why are you still responding?! you've had more than five billion people tell you to call an attorney. GET ONE ALREADY.
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Haven't read your post...just saw the headline.

This is common. Call your doctor. You probably have a leak in your CSF, and they need to do a patch so it stops leaking.

Pretty common.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18771844


appreciated as not everyone will have the time to read it all how ever its been a year and a leak now it supposedly impossible its a year on now and I have been back and forth to the doctors still no solution
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Fist get yourself a good Solicitor who has good medical knowledge . Second apply for full access to all your medical records , get your wife to write down what she witnessed, she is still a witness . Third name of doctor who did the procedure and demand to see the consent form you signed if any . You have to get an apology from the NHS before you take it any further . Thirdly you need as much evidence as you can get so you can prove it's impacted on your life since the procedure took place . Best of luck
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Try these op and sue the cunts for all you can.

Fuck them and their negligence.
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