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CVS to penalize employees $600 a year for its 'voluntary' wellness program.

 
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CVS to penalize employees $600 a year for its 'voluntary' wellness program.
Because of Obama care this trend will eventually extend everywhere. Trust me... You will be losing money all over the place over this crap both directly and indirectly.

[link to money.msn.com]

For workers at CVS, body fat can be costly
The company will penalize employees $600 a year if they don't take part in its 'voluntary' wellness program.

Having to disclose your weight and body fat levels just to get that gig is another story.


The Boston Herald disclosed CVS' new health screening policy Tuesday and revealed that workers who fail to comply would face $50-a-month surcharge. That $600-a-year penalty somewhat undermines CVS' suggestion that the new policy is "voluntary," but it's an increasingly common move by companies looking to save money by avoiding employees with costly health conditions.

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I love the use of "Voluntary" aka NOT volunteering = punishment.
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Sarah Palin called it with DEATH PANELS.....but all the lemmings followed the hater propaganda from the LEFTY MSM.

This is just the beginning of government control of you.

Hope you like what you created....you own it now.


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Corporate-speak.

Here's the deal:

Assuming you're an Employee at Will, which the vast majority of American workers are, CVS is within it's rights to make all kinds of demands, including this. They after-all are subsidizing employee healthcare premiums and healthcare costs are through the roof in America, have been for a long time.

Now matters may be different for those with negotiated union contracts, private and public sector, and for the small percentage of workers in professions where they have negotiated employer/employee contracts.
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Employees in the U.S. have far fewer legal rights than most imagine.
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Simple solution.

Don't work at CVS.

It's not like they pay very well anyway. Plenty of jobs around any CVS looking to pay you low wages.
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Sarah Palin called it with DEATH PANELS.....but all the lemmings followed the hater propaganda from the LEFTY MSM.

This is just the beginning of government control of you.

Hope you like what you created....you own it now.


:gosarah:
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Get out of here with your Sarah Palin.

Honestly.
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Simple solution.

Don't work at CVS.

It's not like they pay very well anyway. Plenty of jobs around any CVS looking to pay you low wages.
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It's not a CVS mandate....it's coming from impending Obamacare rules.


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Simple solution.

Don't work at CVS.

It's not like they pay very well anyway. Plenty of jobs around any CVS looking to pay you low wages.
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It's not a CVS mandate....it's coming from impending Obamacare rules.


:clues:
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Something has to give. Healthcare costs in America are incredibly high, far above the official inflation rate. Two options are available:

1) Since the government subsidizes healthcare, it has a right to keep costs down in a variety of ways, maybe even including price controls.

2) No insurance period, for anybody. Neither public nor private. VERY few people would be able to afford going to a doctor, prescription drugs, etc., under such conditions, costs would have to come down.

A big part of the out of control costs does actually have to do with the massive amount of government spending on healthcare from Medicaid to Medicare and everything in between.
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Simple solution.

Don't work at CVS.

It's not like they pay very well anyway. Plenty of jobs around any CVS looking to pay you low wages.
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It's not a CVS mandate....it's coming from impending Obamacare rules.


:clues:
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Something has to give. Healthcare costs in America are incredibly high, far above the official inflation rate. Two options are available:

1) Since the government subsidizes healthcare, it has a right to keep costs down in a variety of ways, maybe even including price controls.

2) No insurance period, for anybody. Neither public nor private. VERY few people would be able to afford going to a doctor, prescription drugs, etc., under such conditions, costs would have to come down.

A big part of the out of control costs does actually have to do with the massive amount of government spending on healthcare from Medicaid to Medicare and everything in between.
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Same thing applies to the higher education industry and the housing industry. Both are HEAVILY subsidized in one fashion of another by the government. This is the #1 reason why their costs, like healthcare, are so out of control.
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Simple solution.

Don't work at CVS.

It's not like they pay very well anyway. Plenty of jobs around any CVS looking to pay you low wages.
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It's not a CVS mandate....it's coming from impending Obamacare rules.


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Something has to give. Healthcare costs in America are incredibly high, far above the official inflation rate. Two options are available:

1) Since the government subsidizes healthcare, it has a right to keep costs down in a variety of ways, maybe even including price controls.

2) No insurance period, for anybody. Neither public nor private. VERY few people would be able to afford going to a doctor, prescription drugs, etc., under such conditions, costs would have to come down.

A big part of the out of control costs does actually have to do with the massive amount of government spending on healthcare from Medicaid to Medicare and everything in between.
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Yep...something will give.....the USA economically with ObamaCare in place. grnrolleyes

You will not escape it.

All that really has to be done / created was COMPETITION ACROSS STATE LINES....like Geico, Allstate, Progressive, Farmers.....etc.
...and tort reform to deal with the excessive lawsuits.

That alone would have driven down costs SUBSTANTIALLY as it has for the other insurance industries.

...but NO....instead we get this BEHEMOTH TRILLION DOLLAR PLUS MONSTROSITY that is an economy and healthcare killer... called ObamaCare.

...and they had to LIE CHEAT AND STEAL to get it passed.

obamapool

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wow sounds like discrimination to the disabled to me...
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IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Cost $20,000 per Family by 2016


"Individuals who don't have it by 2016 face a penalty amounting to either 2.5 percent
of a person's taxable income or approximately $2,000 per family, depending on their income."

[link to www.newsmax.com]

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Simple solution.

Don't work at CVS.

It's not like they pay very well anyway. Plenty of jobs around any CVS looking to pay you low wages.
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It's not a CVS mandate....it's coming from impending Obamacare rules.


:clues:
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Something has to give. Healthcare costs in America are incredibly high, far above the official inflation rate. Two options are available:

1) Since the government subsidizes healthcare, it has a right to keep costs down in a variety of ways, maybe even including price controls.

2) No insurance period, for anybody. Neither public nor private. VERY few people would be able to afford going to a doctor, prescription drugs, etc., under such conditions, costs would have to come down.

A big part of the out of control costs does actually have to do with the massive amount of government spending on healthcare from Medicaid to Medicare and everything in between.
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Yep...something will give.....the USA economically with ObamaCare in place. :grnrolleyes:

You will not escape it.

All that really has to be done / created was COMPETITION ACROSS STATE LINES....like Geico, Allstate, Progressive, Farmers.....etc.
...and tort reform to deal with the excessive lawsuits.

That alone would have driven down costs SUBSTANTIALLY as it has for the other insurance industries.

...but NO....instead we get this BEHEMOTH TRILLION DOLLAR PLUS MONSTROSITY that is an economy and healthcare killer... called ObamaCare.

...and they had to LIE CHEAT AND STEAL to get it passed.

:obamapool:
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That sounds a bit dramatic.
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It's not a CVS mandate....it's coming from impending Obamacare rules.


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Something has to give. Healthcare costs in America are incredibly high, far above the official inflation rate. Two options are available:

1) Since the government subsidizes healthcare, it has a right to keep costs down in a variety of ways, maybe even including price controls.

2) No insurance period, for anybody. Neither public nor private. VERY few people would be able to afford going to a doctor, prescription drugs, etc., under such conditions, costs would have to come down.

A big part of the out of control costs does actually have to do with the massive amount of government spending on healthcare from Medicaid to Medicare and everything in between.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30839373


Yep...something will give.....the USA economically with ObamaCare in place. grnrolleyes

You will not escape it.

All that really has to be done / created was COMPETITION ACROSS STATE LINES....like Geico, Allstate, Progressive, Farmers.....etc.
...and tort reform to deal with the excessive lawsuits.

That alone would have driven down costs SUBSTANTIALLY as it has for the other insurance industries.

...but NO....instead we get this BEHEMOTH TRILLION DOLLAR PLUS MONSTROSITY that is an economy and healthcare killer... called ObamaCare.

...and they had to LIE CHEAT AND STEAL to get it passed.

obamapool
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That sounds a bit dramatic.
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That was ALL THAT WAS NEEDED to solve the problem.


Obamacare was DRAMATIC....on an exponential level to the entire USA.

nhc
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Gawker decided to fill out an application for a job at Twice Daily convenience stores. It was subjected not only to questions about long hours, lengthy commutes, driving violations and drug tests, but also a "Hiring Assessment" that asked how much it agreed with the following statements, among others:


At work, I often procrastinate.
Most modern art is not really art.
I always complete a job, no matter what else is happening around me.
Variety is the spice of life.
I worry a lot about my job.
I never run out of energy.



----They have been doing this for years. I remember blockbuster had you take one.

If people were to just stop working those jobs - they would go away with all this. They would probably beg you to come work for them.

Look at all that you have to go through to work a job that pays what ... 7.50 - 8.50 an hour?
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Simple solution.

Don't work at CVS.

It's not like they pay very well anyway. Plenty of jobs around any CVS looking to pay you low wages.
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It's not a CVS mandate....it's coming from impending Obamacare rules.


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bump for REALITY.
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I don't know.

Maybe I just don't get it or I'm not educated enough to understand why in any community healthcare and the well being for others should cost anything or should be priced.

Why do hospitals need to make money? Isn't an educated, healthy, populace beneficial to everyone?
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Simple solution.

Don't work at CVS.

It's not like they pay very well anyway. Plenty of jobs around any CVS looking to pay you low wages.
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It's not a CVS mandate....it's coming from impending Obamacare rules.


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bump for REALITY.
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Well, that makes sense for someone who posted a picture of a guy with an expensive suit, a cigar, and manicured hands to prove his point.
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well i hope cvs pays for gym memberships and organic food for the overweight, and free cvs nicotine patches for smokers...
and i hope this volentary program is usued for hiring the ceo's too not just the wage slaves.
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The employees will just steal $600 worth of stuff a year or more to compensate.
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FCVS...I buy my VICODIN on the street
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Simple solution.

Don't work at CVS.

It's not like they pay very well anyway. Plenty of jobs around any CVS looking to pay you low wages.
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It's not a CVS mandate....it's coming from impending Obamacare rules.


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bump for REALITY.
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Well, that makes sense for someone who posted a picture of a guy with an expensive suit, a cigar, and manicured hands to prove his point.
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So somehow in your tiny Socialist mind....that statement somehow negates the truth of the situation.

norespect

This CVS move is STILL due to Obamacare.
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Sarah Palin called it with DEATH PANELS.....but all the lemmings followed the hater propaganda from the LEFTY MSM.

This is just the beginning of government control of you.

Hope you like what you created....you own it now.


:gosarah:
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Get out of here with your Sarah Palin.

Honestly.
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Truth hurts, doesnt it little bitch? See you on the field!
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Employers 'clamping down' on health conditions or the potential for health conditions is just a consequence of the extreme competitive economic environment we are in - and it won't get better - it will get worse. Got an answer for this Mr. Capitalist?
Take your dogma and shove it!

Life is not about what happens to you, it's about how you deal with it.
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I love the use of "Voluntary" aka NOT volunteering = punishment.
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Yeah, like filing Income tax is "voluntary". You chose not to file and you go to prison, and they take all your "stuff".

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Employers 'clamping down' on health conditions or the potential for health conditions is just a consequence of the extreme competitive economic environment we are in - and it won't get better - it will get worse. Got an answer for this Mr. Capitalist?
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Yeah, switch from a Capitalist society to a Free Enterprise society.

Anyways if you think the U.S. is a "capitalist" country anymore then you are a fool. There is no Constitution anymore. The U.S. is a fascist corporation society.

They have declared war on the middle class and will bankrupt them in a few years. They know the middle class cannot afford much more of their theft and so they push and push more of their crap until the middle class is just a memory.

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more wealth confiscation by the state....But wait, they are not gov't...big business = government
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Can somebody explain to me why this is a bad thing? Its a private corporation taking steps to weed out obese employees. If I were an employer, I would not hire somebody who was obese, and if an employee did become obese I would like to be able to reserve the right to give them an ultimatum: lose weight or lose your job. Obesity is a drain on productivity.
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Coercion is not voluntary.
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Two-thirds of Americans are obese or overweight.

That costs money. A lot of money in related illnesses. If more companies had that sort of policy - health costs would come down.

I don't have a problem with a company trying to curb their costs. I do, however, see the irony in a pill-pushing company, such as CVS, setting the trend.

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