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One word: Discrimination
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What's wrong with rewarding people who work hard to keep themselves healthy, and punishing those who are lazy and are part of the reason why health insurance is so expensive?
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My friend works for cvs and she was telling me about this and they have so long to lower any two of the following

body fat

blood pressure

and i forget the rest but if they dont they are extorted out of 600 bucks. nice eh ?
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First they need to take all their garbage food (about 85%) full of GMOs, soy, sugar and aspartame of the shelves.
People's metabolisms get so screwed up eating those poisons that no amount of exercise is going to make them slim and healthy as long as they're eating that.
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What's wrong with rewarding people who work hard to keep themselves healthy, and punishing those who are lazy and are part of the reason why health insurance is so expensive?
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people arnt why healthcare is so expensive. Doctors that have people waiting in waiting rooms for 4 hrs to write a re occuring prescription so they can bilk medicare for 4 hours of treatment and similar activities .

As well as lack of tort reform for operations that go south .

And the ban on interstate healthcare purchase

And no obamacare mandate which no longer gives any healthcare provider any incentive to keep rates competitively priced


All this crap is why healthcare is so expensive.
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Can somebody explain to me why this is a bad thing? Its a private corporation taking steps to weed out obese employees. If I were an employer, I would not hire somebody who was obese, and if an employee did become obese I would like to be able to reserve the right to give them an ultimatum: lose weight or lose your job. Obesity is a drain on productivity.
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Maybe because it is hypocrisy at its finest? CVS sells a ton of candy and soft drinks that contain aspartame and HFCS, not to mention the vaccinations they push on the public when you go there. We won't even talk about the meth they sell for so-called hyper people or the prozac/SSRIs that contribute to murder.
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Sarah Palin called it with DEATH PANELS.....but all the lemmings followed the hater propaganda from the LEFTY MSM.

This is just the beginning of government control of you.

Hope you like what you created....you own it now.


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Fuck yeah! The tards are worried about her.
She isn't leaning left not right. She leans correct.
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Can somebody explain to me why this is a bad thing? Its a private corporation taking steps to weed out obese employees. If I were an employer, I would not hire somebody who was obese, and if an employee did become obese I would like to be able to reserve the right to give them an ultimatum: lose weight or lose your job. Obesity is a drain on productivity.
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Maybe because it is hypocrisy at its finest? CVS sells a ton of candy and soft drinks that contain aspartame and HFCS, not to mention the vaccinations they push on the public when you go there. We won't even talk about the meth they sell for so-called hyper people or the prozac/SSRIs that contribute to murder.
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i know a bunch of overweight people who are more productive than skinny people.
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My friend works for cvs and she was telling me about this and they have so long to lower any two of the following

body fat

blood pressure

and i forget the rest but if they dont they are extorted out of 600 bucks. nice eh ?
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olies obamapool olies
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Two-thirds of Americans are obese or overweight.

That costs money. A lot of money in related illnesses. If more companies had that sort of policy - health costs would come down.

I don't have a problem with a company trying to curb their costs. I do, however, see the irony in a pill-pushing company, such as CVS, setting the trend.
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It is not the over weight employees that cost corporations so much money. It is the wife and 4 kids that are not employees that the corporations also insure that cost out the ass.

You tell me which would cost more. A single overweight employee? Or A employee that is in good shape with a fat wife and 4 obese kids?

Now is CVS also going to make sure those kids and wife are in good shape? Where does all this end?

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My friend works for cvs and she was telling me about this and they have so long to lower any two of the following

body fat

blood pressure

and i forget the rest but if they dont they are extorted out of 600 bucks. nice eh ?
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I also work for them. They are getting rid of dental and eyecare benefits also. If emploees want it they have to pay the full premium.

Also, you have to reach a 3k deductable before 80 or 90% of your medical expenses are paid. So it will cost me approximately 3k + 1700 for dental and 1200 for eyecare + additional charges not covered. This is ridiculous, especially when they give a lousy 2%
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Two-thirds of Americans are obese or overweight.

That costs money. A lot of money in related illnesses. If more companies had that sort of policy - health costs would come down.

I don't have a problem with a company trying to curb their costs. I do, however, see the irony in a pill-pushing company, such as CVS, setting the trend.
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It is not the over weight employees that cost corporations so much money. It is the wife and 4 kids that are not employees that the corporations also insure that cost out the ass.

You tell me which would cost more. A single overweight employee? Or A employee that is in good shape with a fat wife and 4 obese kids?

Now is CVS also going to make sure those kids and wife are in good shape? Where does all this end?

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Yes. Next year the whole family has to go for the physical at the minute clinic. Then CVS gets reimbursed from the insurance company. They are forcing employeesvto use the minute clinic. Scamming the system.
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there's alternatives for all thing's in life, it's a shame tat it boil's down to $, same with green alternative's $
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Two-thirds of Americans are obese or overweight.

That costs money. A lot of money in related illnesses. If more companies had that sort of policy - health costs would come down.

I don't have a problem with a company trying to curb their costs. I do, however, see the irony in a pill-pushing company, such as CVS, setting the trend.
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It is not the over weight employees that cost corporations so much money. It is the wife and 4 kids that are not employees that the corporations also insure that cost out the ass.

You tell me which would cost more. A single overweight employee? Or A employee that is in good shape with a fat wife and 4 obese kids?

Now is CVS also going to make sure those kids and wife are in good shape? Where does all this end?

.
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According to the BC/BS of Michigan's current Health Awareness Program/Policy, yes you're all included in the program. They call them "Health Coaches" and you are penalized if you do not enroll.

I am paying higher premiums & deductibles for refusing to comply. Mine is not a health issue, it's a right to privacy issue. My current employer is actually an "Employee Owned Corporation", which has me totally confused as to why we are even enrolled in it?

It started 5 years ago as a voluntary program. Now it's mandatory and you are penalized if you do not follow.

What you knucleheads that think it's about fat people are missing the point...AGE. Think about it.....
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The local CVS here is putting in a medical clinic - right there in the store - which means they will be selling food items in the same space where sick people are going in and waiting to see the doctor. I know they have pharmacies anyway, and you never know who is sick anywhere you are, but it seems inappropriate that an actual medical clinic should be put into any retail establishment.

BOYCOTT CVS!
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if they piss, weed, kid's will be taken
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What's wrong with rewarding people who work hard to keep themselves healthy, and punishing those who are lazy and are part of the reason why health insurance is so expensive?
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You are the reason why I hate people. Because everyone knows skinny=healthy and overweight=lazy slob, right? No one is EVER overweight for any reason except stuffing their face with big macs.

I hope one day you get sick and have to take mediation that causes weight gain, or have some other medical condition which causes it. Then you can enjoy everyone presuming your a lazy, stupid, slob.
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Because of Obama care this trend will eventually extend everywhere. Trust me... You will be losing money all over the place over this crap both directly and indirectly.

[link to money.msn.com]

For workers at CVS, body fat can be costly
The company will penalize employees $600 a year if they don't take part in its 'voluntary' wellness program.

Having to disclose your weight and body fat levels just to get that gig is another story.


The Boston Herald disclosed CVS' new health screening policy Tuesday and revealed that workers who fail to comply would face $50-a-month surcharge. That $600-a-year penalty somewhat undermines CVS' suggestion that the new policy is "voluntary," but it's an increasingly common move by companies looking to save money by avoiding employees with costly health conditions.

wtf
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This is standard. Has been around for a few years in most companies. It's a discount for understanding why you're fat, or getting tests, or knowing your cholesterol, whatever.

Not sure why this is a bad thing.
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Because of Obama care this trend will eventually extend everywhere. Trust me... You will be losing money all over the place over this crap both directly and indirectly.

[link to money.msn.com]

For workers at CVS, body fat can be costly
The company will penalize employees $600 a year if they don't take part in its 'voluntary' wellness program.

Having to disclose your weight and body fat levels just to get that gig is another story.


The Boston Herald disclosed CVS' new health screening policy Tuesday and revealed that workers who fail to comply would face $50-a-month surcharge. That $600-a-year penalty somewhat undermines CVS' suggestion that the new policy is "voluntary," but it's an increasingly common move by companies looking to save money by avoiding employees with costly health conditions.

wtf
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This is standard. Has been around for a few years in most companies. It's a discount for understanding why you're fat, or getting tests, or knowing your cholesterol, whatever.

Not sure why this is a bad thing.
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Another Knucklehead......
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Because of Obama care this trend will eventually extend everywhere. Trust me... You will be losing money all over the place over this crap both directly and indirectly.

[link to money.msn.com]

For workers at CVS, body fat can be costly
The company will penalize employees $600 a year if they don't take part in its 'voluntary' wellness program.

Having to disclose your weight and body fat levels just to get that gig is another story.


The Boston Herald disclosed CVS' new health screening policy Tuesday and revealed that workers who fail to comply would face $50-a-month surcharge. That $600-a-year penalty somewhat undermines CVS' suggestion that the new policy is "voluntary," but it's an increasingly common move by companies looking to save money by avoiding employees with costly health conditions.

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330824


This is standard. Has been around for a few years in most companies. It's a discount for understanding why you're fat, or getting tests, or knowing your cholesterol, whatever.

Not sure why this is a bad thing.
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Another Knucklehead......
 Quoting: ohnonotagain


Why because you don't agree? Wow.

First of all, the fact that business even provides health care is a benefit. Think about that. You don't have any automatic right to it when yo go work somewhere.

So if they have to pay outrages fees by the criminal health care industry, and their cost is based on the health of their employees, why wouldn't they provide some incentive to understand why they are unhealthy in one way or another. And as a reward, discount their insurance premiums.

You must be a socialist or something. That's how business works, but obviously you wouldn't know about.

How about this, don't take the insurance and go get it on the open market.

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Because of Obama care this trend will eventually extend everywhere. Trust me... You will be losing money all over the place over this crap both directly and indirectly.

[link to money.msn.com]

For workers at CVS, body fat can be costly
The company will penalize employees $600 a year if they don't take part in its 'voluntary' wellness program.

Having to disclose your weight and body fat levels just to get that gig is another story.


The Boston Herald disclosed CVS' new health screening policy Tuesday and revealed that workers who fail to comply would face $50-a-month surcharge. That $600-a-year penalty somewhat undermines CVS' suggestion that the new policy is "voluntary," but it's an increasingly common move by companies looking to save money by avoiding employees with costly health conditions.

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330824


This is standard. Has been around for a few years in most companies. It's a discount for understanding why you're fat, or getting tests, or knowing your cholesterol, whatever.

Not sure why this is a bad thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32084283


Another Knucklehead......
 Quoting: ohnonotagain


No....just another PAID SHILL defending Obamacare and trying to keep the sheep contained.

Notice how they swarmed on this thread?

austinshill
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More corporate fascism.

They underpay these people and when they are forced to pay medical they get vindictive and start applying draconian measures.
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One word: Discrimination
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I have a better word BOYCOTT

Everyone needs to stop shopping at this place immediately.
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Because of Obama care this trend will eventually extend everywhere. Trust me... You will be losing money all over the place over this crap both directly and indirectly.

[link to money.msn.com]

For workers at CVS, body fat can be costly
The company will penalize employees $600 a year if they don't take part in its 'voluntary' wellness program.

Having to disclose your weight and body fat levels just to get that gig is another story.


The Boston Herald disclosed CVS' new health screening policy Tuesday and revealed that workers who fail to comply would face $50-a-month surcharge. That $600-a-year penalty somewhat undermines CVS' suggestion that the new policy is "voluntary," but it's an increasingly common move by companies looking to save money by avoiding employees with costly health conditions.

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330824


This is standard. Has been around for a few years in most companies. It's a discount for understanding why you're fat, or getting tests, or knowing your cholesterol, whatever.

Not sure why this is a bad thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32084283


Another Knucklehead......
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No....just another PAID SHILL defending Obamacare and trying to keep the sheep contained.

Notice how they swarmed on this thread?

:austinshill:
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Yep, we're swarming in on the socialist thread. Let's start talking about your savior Obama too.
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One word: Discrimination
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I have a better word BOYCOTT

Everyone needs to stop shopping at this place immediately.
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Why...because the employees are required to pay and extra $600 out of their paychecks due to Obamacare?


CRACK.

You are on it.

ohyeah
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Because of Obama care this trend will eventually extend everywhere. Trust me... You will be losing money all over the place over this crap both directly and indirectly.

[link to money.msn.com]

For workers at CVS, body fat can be costly
The company will penalize employees $600 a year if they don't take part in its 'voluntary' wellness program.

Having to disclose your weight and body fat levels just to get that gig is another story.


The Boston Herald disclosed CVS' new health screening policy Tuesday and revealed that workers who fail to comply would face $50-a-month surcharge. That $600-a-year penalty somewhat undermines CVS' suggestion that the new policy is "voluntary," but it's an increasingly common move by companies looking to save money by avoiding employees with costly health conditions.

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330824


This is standard. Has been around for a few years in most companies. It's a discount for understanding why you're fat, or getting tests, or knowing your cholesterol, whatever.

Not sure why this is a bad thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32084283


Another Knucklehead......
 Quoting: ohnonotagain


Why because you don't agree? Wow.

First of all, the fact that business even provides health care is a benefit. Think about that. You don't have any automatic right to it when yo go work somewhere.

So if they have to pay outrages fees by the criminal health care industry, and their cost is based on the health of their employees, why wouldn't they provide some incentive to understand why they are unhealthy in one way or another. And as a reward, discount their insurance premiums.

You must be a socialist or something. That's how business works, but obviously you wouldn't know about.

How about this, don't take the insurance and go get it on the open market.

iamwith
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This is in place because of people like you. You have lived high while paying those that sacrificed everything poverty level wages.
The great irony in all of this is this is a mess created by greed. The poor didn't make this happen. You continually wanted more for yourself and less for everyone else. And, now, you have to pay for it. Of course, I know, it must be the poor peoples fault. If only they just had jobs - wait! they do! AND YOU BASTARDS REFUSE TO PAY THEM A DECENT WAGE!

scumbags.
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My company has similar policy - $500 per year penalty if you don't do their 'screening' which tracks weight, body fat, some finger prick blood test can't remember why - PLUS you get to pay $500 penalty if you don't fill out their health questionnaire PLUS an additional $500 penalty if your spouse doesn't fill out the health questionnaire - for a grand total of $1500 penalty if you voluntarily forego the above. PLUS company paid healthcare is gone - my healthcare monthly premium went up $150 per month.

Yep this Obamacare is really beyond unbelievable.
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One word: Discrimination
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I have a better word BOYCOTT

Everyone needs to stop shopping at this place immediately.
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what moron would shop at that overpriced store in the first place?

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My company has similar policy - $500 per year penalty if you don't do their 'screening' which tracks weight, body fat, some finger prick blood test can't remember why - PLUS you get to pay $500 penalty if you don't fill out their health questionnaire PLUS an additional $500 penalty if your spouse doesn't fill out the health questionnaire - for a grand total of $1500 penalty if you voluntarily forego the above. PLUS company paid healthcare is gone - my healthcare monthly premium went up $150 per month.

Yep this Obamacare is really beyond unbelievable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23200542


I forgot to mention that in years past the company would give $50 gift certificates for each of the above three items. Now you either do it or pay $500 for each leg of this bizarre system.
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Simple solution.

Don't work at CVS.

It's not like they pay very well anyway. Plenty of jobs around any CVS looking to pay you low wages.
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The point is after Obama care is in full effect; this is an exact example of one of MANY situations that will occur.

AKA it will become the norm for most employers...

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