The RAIN MAN explained: Was Lucifer a Musical Being ?? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2731277 United States 03/21/2013 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The more repitious the music, the more "hook" it has and becomes popular. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36103950 While listening to a song, if a person can predict the next note based on repitiion, the person is more likely to prefer the song. It's the brain's lazy way of listening to something. And when the brain doesn't have to work, it goes into a different wavelength - trance state. Similar to mantra repetition, which is histories "music" that quickly induces trances states. Popular music has devolved into the same few notes being repeated over and over again. The brain latches on to it.the brain almost deadens while people mindlessly repeat the words or perform the associated dance (gangnam style anyone?). Sounds like the pied piper story. Then, lyrics are easily inserted to a trancesd out brain. People freak out over binaural beats inserting non-productive, or negative affirmations. Yet the music industry already does this on a global scale. For a profit even! Classical music, on the other hand, challenges the brain to work differently. Which is why people report better memory and flashes of wisdom when listening to Bach. Great info. thx! Makes a lot of sense |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17280511 United States 03/21/2013 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't deny how music has made society anti-God and anti-Bible. Quite scary, as a lot of them are based on spells. John Todd. Thread: Your subconscious obsorbs everything. Satan uses music. And you still dont believe? |
Rainmaker User ID: 1674019 United States 03/21/2013 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was Lucifer a musical being in the spirit world?? Quoting: abhie Judging by all the twisted illuminati music we get, I wouldnt be surprised. Was Lucifer created to make music in heaven? The RAIN MAN explained: [link to spiritspeakstruths.blogspot.in] [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36609102 United States 03/21/2013 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was Lucifer a musical being in the spirit world?? Quoting: abhie Judging by all the twisted illuminati music we get, I wouldnt be surprised. Was Lucifer created to make music in heaven? The RAIN MAN explained: [link to spiritspeakstruths.blogspot.in] [link to www.youtube.com] "you're a part of my entity.. here for infinity..." Pretty obvious what she's singing about. |
Woot Woot User ID: 29998379 Canada 03/21/2013 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He wasn't just the master minstrel prior to his fall but also the master of light. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36608845 All demon inspired music is so incredible because it comes from the one who is music, the master minstrel. So what's Satan's price for a perhaps untalented "artist" to work his magick through them and their music? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36609102 United States 03/21/2013 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He wasn't just the master minstrel prior to his fall but also the master of light. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36608845 All demon inspired music is so incredible because it comes from the one who is music, the master minstrel. So what's Satan's price for a perhaps untalented "artist" to work his magick through them and their music? Their soul. Just Like she says .."for infinity" |
Adventus Domini User ID: 893880 United States 03/21/2013 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A couple of verses I know of: All your pomp has been brought down to the grave, along with the noise of your harps; maggots are spread out beneath you and worms cover you. How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! (Isaiah 14:11,12) And the one you refer to: You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created. (Ezekiel 28:13) Last Edited by Adventus Domini on 03/21/2013 01:27 PM When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. |
Adventus Domini User ID: 893880 United States 03/21/2013 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ezekiel 28:13 b: Quoting: abhie "The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created." 11 The word of the Lord came to me: 12 “Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: “‘You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: carnelian, chrysolite and emerald, topaz, onyx and jasper, lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings[c] were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. 14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. 15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. 16 Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. 17 Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings. 18 By your many sins and dishonest trade you have desecrated your sanctuaries. So I made a fire come out from you, and it consumed you, and I reduced you to ashes on the ground in the sight of all who were watching. 19 All the nations who knew you are appalled at you; you have come to a horrible end and will be no more.’” [link to www.biblegateway.com] I couldn't help but notice how the word Lucifer wasn't even present in your wall of text. Satan does not = Lucifer you brain damaged twit. You’re absolutely wrong. From [link to www.gotquestions.org] There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28. Isaiah 14:12-18 describes the fall from heaven of one called “Lucifer” in the King James Version and the “morning star, son of the dawn” in the NIV. Other Bible versions call him “Day Star,” “shining star,” and “the bright morning star.” These variations are due to differences of opinion about how to translate the Hebrew word helel. Regardless, the description of the one referred to shows us it can be none other than Satan. We know from Jesus’ own words in Luke 10 that Satan fell from heaven. So, when Isaiah refers to Lucifer or helel being cast down to earth (Isaiah 14:12), it can be none other than Satan… Ezekiel 28 is another passage thought to refer to Lucifer/Satan. Although it begins with Ezekiel being commanded by God to “take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre” (v. 12), an evil idolatrous king, it soon becomes clear that the passage is referring as well to the power behind that king—Satan. Verse 13 says he was “in Eden, the garden of God.” Clearly, the king of Tyre was never in Eden. Verse 14 says, “You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you.” … Since the king of Tyre was never in heaven, either, this can only be describing Lucifer… To summarize, the Hebrew word helel is translated "Lucifer." He was cast out of heaven for his sin of pride and his desire to be God. Jesus referred to seeing Satan being cast out of heaven. Therefore, we can conclude that Lucifer and Satan are one and the same. Last Edited by Adventus Domini on 03/21/2013 01:40 PM When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. |
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Woot Woot User ID: 29998379 Canada 03/21/2013 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You’re absolutely wrong. From [link to www.gotquestions.org] Quoting: Adventus Domini There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28. Isaiah 14:12-18 describes the fall from heaven of one called “Lucifer” in the King James Version and the “morning star, son of the dawn” in the NIV. Other Bible versions call him “Day Star,” “shining star,” and “the bright morning star.” These variations are due to differences of opinion about how to translate the Hebrew word helel. Regardless, the description of the one referred to shows us it can be none other than Satan. We know from Jesus’ own words in Luke 10 that Satan fell from heaven. So, when Isaiah refers to Lucifer or helel being cast down to earth (Isaiah 14:12), it can be none other than Satan… Ezekiel 28 is another passage thought to refer to Lucifer/Satan. Although it begins with Ezekiel being commanded by God to “take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre” (v. 12), an evil idolatrous king, it soon becomes clear that the passage is referring as well to the power behind that king—Satan. Verse 13 says he was “in Eden, the garden of God.” Clearly, the king of Tyre was never in Eden. Verse 14 says, “You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you.” … Since the king of Tyre was never in heaven, either, this can only be describing Lucifer… To summarize, the Hebrew word helel is translated "Lucifer." He was cast out of heaven for his sin of pride and his desire to be God. Jesus referred to seeing Satan being cast out of heaven. Therefore, we can conclude that Lucifer and Satan are one and the same. Sounds tricky to me |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23660254 United States 03/21/2013 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The more repitious the music, the more "hook" it has and becomes popular. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36103950 While listening to a song, if a person can predict the next note based on repitiion, the person is more likely to prefer the song. It's the brain's lazy way of listening to something. And when the brain doesn't have to work, it goes into a different wavelength - trance state. Similar to mantra repetition, which is histories "music" that quickly induces trances states. Popular music has devolved into the same few notes being repeated over and over again. The brain latches on to it.the brain almost deadens while people mindlessly repeat the words or perform the associated dance (gangnam style anyone?). Sounds like the pied piper story. Then, lyrics are easily inserted to a trancesd out brain. People freak out over binaural beats inserting non-productive, or negative affirmations. Yet the music industry already does this on a global scale. For a profit even! Classical music, on the other hand, challenges the brain to work differently. Which is why people report better memory and flashes of wisdom when listening to Bach. Great info. thx! Makes a lot of sense This is perhaps true. If I am reading, or studying, doing homework, etc...I can only listen to classical music..other music tends to distract me too much. -as far as the rest, we are all musical beings in the spirit world |
Angelic_Warrior User ID: 23290196 United States 03/21/2013 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is slightly ticking me off. I'm a musician who has an experience with music that I call "The Love Harmonic" that relates DIRECTLY to the overall discussion here and is an enlightenment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7749034 As enlightenment's go, its a personal experience and this one comes with a yearly reminder. but context is needed and its sorely lacking here...too many personal beliefs in the mix, not enough critical analysis. Belief not important, only truth important. That's not to say that there isn't some excellent music devoid of any satanic influence. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. I Corinthians 2:14 God doesn't choose favorites.. They choose HIM It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the greatness of God |
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Adventus Domini User ID: 893880 United States 03/21/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is slightly ticking me off. I'm a musician who has an experience with music that I call "The Love Harmonic" that relates DIRECTLY to the overall discussion here and is an enlightenment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7749034 As enlightenment's go, its a personal experience and this one comes with a yearly reminder. but context is needed and its sorely lacking here...too many personal beliefs in the mix, not enough critical analysis. Belief not important, only truth important. That's not to say that there isn't some excellent music devoid of any satanic influence. Think about it -- everything beautiful that God created has been perverted by Satan. Everything! That includes music. Satan has never created anything. His only power lies in what he can corrupt through the creative power of humans. Last Edited by Adventus Domini on 03/21/2013 02:03 PM When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. |
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RD47 User ID: 35008276 United States 03/21/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Hopi had Kopelli Man the Flute Player, he brought with him the seeds of the New Man on his back. [link to www.google.com (secure)] |
chipg User ID: 34796723 United States 03/21/2013 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most, if not all actors sold their souls. tom cruise, i know for a fact did, as did Micheal Richards did of Seinfeld and many many more. so is the devil a producer as well, for TV and movies. no he is just bad and has been able to talk a whole lot of people into trading their souls for gifts of this world. even our mr obama did this, sold his soul to be who he is. i was taken there and watched him do it, first hand. obama was very young, but knew what he was doing, the only difference with obama is, i believe, is he might have thought he was dealing with god, he being mussie and all. i believe GOD holds the total power and the devil offers it up to some people and they take the bait. when i was 17 it was offered to me, by the devil himself, i refused and stayed with GOD to this day. it has been a hard road but worth it on ever level. i have been given many rewards from GOD over the pass few years, but none in the way of worldly goods. i tell the whole truth, so help me GOD...chip griffin |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36376632 United States 03/21/2013 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sound is the use of the frequencies , we resonate at a certain frequencie , its all frequencie, i took a trip one day and never left my room, i went with my teacher he,s cool , a real fun guy, he,s kinda quite n shy , he opened my eye, he,s a teacher and a real fungi. his room is mush, he taught me lots , he comes out when it rains. |
magic juan User ID: 29050358 United Kingdom 03/21/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do all the deluded fools in this thread reconcile thevsinging of psalms, hymns, carols etc devoted to yhwh? All early scripture was sung to recruit as it was easier for the uneducated to remember because they couldn't read. How about that great work of satan, gospel music? I think a lot of you miss the point in the difference between music and harmonics as energy and the influence that energy can have. Music can uplift your very soul ffs... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/21/2013 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He wasn't just the master minstrel prior to his fall but also the master of light. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36608845 All demon inspired music is so incredible because it comes from the one who is music, the master minstrel. So what's Satan's price for a perhaps untalented "artist" to work his magick through them and their music? Its a matter of the "artist" gaining talent not magick. The depth of skill desired determines the payment. There is always an equal trade and the deal is balanced. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 03/21/2013 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was Lucifer a musical being in the spirit world?? Quoting: abhie Judging by all the twisted illuminati music we get, I wouldnt be surprised. Was Lucifer created to make music in heaven? The RAIN MAN explained: [link to spiritspeakstruths.blogspot.in] [link to www.youtube.com] God is sound, The first few sentences of the bible describe how God "spoke" everything into existence, so the antagonist must also be sound or a conflicting vibration. It's only when you realize the harmony between the two, that you realize Lucifer is part of the one. You are good and evil, there is no getting around it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22383196 Yes and the ancient god called the Inventor of Music is the sun god, Apollo :Guitar Man: Apollo is the original Guitar Man! Notice the Jesus synchronicity of this band from the 60's name? Perhaps music, even 60's rock-n-roll is of God and the devil both? Both dudes of this duality have been locking horns from day one. The god Apollo, (Apollyon) has been called the Beast of Revelation: "They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer)." Revelation 9:11 The verse number, 911 is another interesting synchronicity. You could come from fear and say that the Illuminati or twisted shadow government were using a biblical reference to Apollo (the Destroyer) when they conspired to destroy the Twin Towers and initiate their endless war on terror. But what if all these, who perpetuate evil acts are simply ignorant and misguided about what it is -exactly- that Apollo returns to Destroy? What if Apollo returned and already got saved? What if He and God are like the first Prodigal Son now walking again with His Father as Best Friends? What if this Apollo soul surrendered to the Almighty and allowed himself to be the open vessel through which God unites heaven and earth? What is all that the Destroyer now comes to destroy is ignorance, superstition, idol worship, fear, pain, injury, death, and destruction itself ??? Apollo is the name given for the child who brings the Golden Age by the sybil (prophetess) of Cumae, who's words were Rome's most guarded treasure. She paints the boy in a far better light than the bible: "Only, chaste Lucina, favour the child at his birth, by whom, first of all, the iron age will end and a golden race arise in all the world; now your Apollo reigns." -Virgil 70-19 BC What if this whole Revelation Armagedhon is being fulfilled within this one Apollo being who walks as a man, a Nobody, like your or me? What if the great duality has been resolved, finished, within this One and now shall spread unto all who receive it in the entire kingdom? Then we wouldn't need a WWIII and incalculable hurt and loss that comes with war. All anyone would need to do is give their need for Vengence back to God, as He commanded: Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. -Romans 12:19 And what if God makes this request not because He is vengeful, but because His plan from day one resolves all the conflict in all of His Creation? Perhaps the Music Man is the good guy and The Sound of Music is the Word of God. "How do you hold a wave upon the sand?" After all, who but God made the All ...including Jesus, Lucifer, Satan, Apollo and Angels, ...who play the (devil's) Music? Its interesting you bring Apollo into the mix with his roots in the Greek and later Roman pantheon and the influence the Greek religion and world view had on music. All western music is based on Greek scales which were originally derived to match the 7 Greek planets(planets named after their respective Gods). The notes were broken down to 12 to match the astrological movements. All western music is directly related to the original "Heathen" religions of Rome and Greece. With the introduction of eastern and African methods to music(partial slide or bend notes in between that have no classical name other than by bend size)(Sitar and blues) it expanded but is still based on the Greek theories. |
Spitting Into The Wind User ID: 35684381 United States 03/21/2013 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Son of the morning, not dawn. Lucifer doesn't go by that. That's dangerous man...check that "bible". Quoting: cmoG530 Isaiah 14:12-15 KJV How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. And remember, Lucifer is the father of lies. The great counterfeiter. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14328296 In Job 38:7 (ESV), Jehovah claims that the cornerstone of the earth was laid when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy implying that the morning stars were living beings. In Revelation 22:16 (ESV), Jesus calls himself "the bright Morning Star": I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star. The Devil also seems to be a morning star, according to Isaiah 14:12 (World English Bible). Translations seem to vary a lot on this one. How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! Im sorry it is sons of the Morning. Here is the correct verse that I was talking about. Job 38 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? When the morning-stars - There can be little doubt that angelic beings are intended here, though some have thought that the stars literally are referred to, and that they seemed to unite in a chorus of praise when another world was added to their number. The comparison of a prince, a monarch, or an angel, with a star, is not uncommon; compare the notes at Isaiah 14. The expression "the morning-stars" is used on account of the beauty of the principal star which, at certain seasons of the year, leads on the morning. It is applied naturally to those angelic beings that are of distinguished glory and rank in heaven. That it refers to the angels, seems to be evident from the connection; and this interpretation is demanded in order to correspond with the phrase "sons of God" in the other member of the verse. Sang together - United in a grand chorus or concert of praise. It was usual to celebrate the laying of a cornerstone, or the completion of an edifice, by rejoicing; see Zechariah 4:7; Ezra 3:10. [link to bible.cc] Yes, the now fallen angels were ONCE the sons of God, but not anymore. Lucifer is the leader, Lucifer is THE son of the morning. He's the father of lies. He tricked the now fallen angels to betray God and to work against Him. There's a reason why the emphasis is always on the one and not the whole. The fallen have lost their first estate. Therefore, God the Word already had the main title. Jude 1:6-8 KJV And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. The name Lucifer (Lightbringer) is a bad translation by Jerome when he redid the Latin Bible. Look at the original Hebrew and Greek to get the real meaning, which someone posted. Lucifer is a Latin title for Jesus the Catholics use. The KJV is a great word-for-word translation, but not accurate. Do the research. |
Woot Woot User ID: 29998379 Canada 03/21/2013 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Fool Nobody Found What if this whole Revelation Armagedhon is being fulfilled within this one Apollo being who walks as a man, a Nobody, like your or me? What if the great duality has been resolved, finished, within this One and now shall spread unto all who receive it in the entire kingdom? Then we wouldn't need a WWIII and incalculable hurt and loss that comes with war. All anyone would need to do is give their need for Vengence back to God, as He commanded: Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. -Romans 12:19 And what if God makes this request not because He is vengeful, but because His plan from day one resolves all the conflict in all of His Creation? Perhaps the Music Man is the good guy and The Sound of Music is the Word of God. "How do you hold a wave upon the sand?" After all, who but God made the All ...including Jesus, Lucifer, Satan, Apollo and Angels, ...who play the (devil's) Music? I think he knows ... music to his ears. |
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Woot Woot User ID: 29998379 Canada 03/21/2013 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He wasn't just the master minstrel prior to his fall but also the master of light. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36608845 All demon inspired music is so incredible because it comes from the one who is music, the master minstrel. So what's Satan's price for a perhaps untalented "artist" to work his magick through them and their music? Its a matter of the "artist" gaining talent not magick. The depth of skill desired determines the payment. There is always an equal trade and the deal is balanced. Point taken ... 27 club would be ultimate then? Joplin, Hendrix, Morris, some say Winehouse (God Bless her troubled soul but I didn't see it) |