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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17299239  United States03/21/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theres no point leaving money in the banks anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36533167 Theyre not paying any interest. All they do is hit you with charges. And if shtf they take YOUR money to pay for THEIR fuck up. People shouldn't leave anything in the banks other then what they need to pay bills and shit with. They cant take it if they don't have it. I guess I don't fully grasp this shit. So a guy with 5000 bucks loses 500....how does this collapse the global economy....is it because everyone will pull their money? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36340478 United States03/21/2013 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284526  Philippines03/21/2013 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theres no point leaving money in the banks anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36533167 Theyre not paying any interest. All they do is hit you with charges. And if shtf they take YOUR money to pay for THEIR fuck up. People shouldn't leave anything in the banks other then what they need to pay bills and shit with. They cant take it if they don't have it. I guess I don't fully grasp this shit. So a guy with 5000 bucks loses 500....how does this collapse the global economy....is it because everyone will pull their money? Loss of faith. You thought you would get a 2% return but instead you get a -10% return. And that is just the beginning. It is all coming down. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36616701  Canada03/21/2013 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The editors at Cyprus. com wrote an excellent piece on March 20 describing the situation in Cyprus with more clarity than I've seen anywhere else. The writers, Antonis Polemitis and Andreas Kitsios live in Cyprus. Cyprus Bailout: Stupidity, Short-Sightedness, Something Else? [link to www.cyprus.com] Stealing from bank deposits is not the only solution. Read here for several ideas from the same writers posted March 21 What To Do Now [link to www.cyprus.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36340478 United States03/21/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36555947 United States03/21/2013 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia has only 1 valid option to get its money back if Cyprus denies it that money -- declare ECB responsible for the theft and seize all EU assets it can put its hands on, domestic or abroad. Personally, I'd start with German assets first, and if possible, German assets only. Everybody knows that Germany is guilty of this mess and I very much doubt that many, if anyone at all, would object to such action. The only rule is the rule of brute force, remember? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36624221  Poland03/21/2013 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course they have no choice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36533167 The EU knew this, and knew that they would clean out the Oligarchs, Russian mafia and a load of off shore tax cheats. What ever happens the banks are fucked. The second those doors open, there isn't going to be an account left in there with money in it. If they done this once, they can do it again. What makes me laugh, in their attempts to avoid a bank run, there actions have now encouraged it. No one but no one in their right mind will leave money in their bank accounts again. The thing is, anyone in Europe now is fucked. The EU have basically said that we depositors are now liable for 10% of all bankers fuck ups if the banks default. Since monday I no longer leave anything more in the account then to cover any direct debits etc. Everything else, comes straight out. Fuckem. Anyone in Europe with a bank account stupid enough to leave their money in the banks after this shit, deserves everything they get, because this is only the start, there are other banks that are looking for bailouts in Spain Portugal and Italy. They keep harping on about Cyprus only being 2% of all European GDP, but what happens when Italy defaults, or Spain and Portugal. People in Europe shouldn't be looking at Cyprus as a one off, they should see it as a warning. But the sheeple here don't have a fucking clue. You're not the only one doing that in the UK, many are emptying their accounts. How many people are you talking about? I'm wondering what in the heck I should do. I pay many bills with automatic payments such as utilities and a student loan. The place where I pay my rent doesn't accept cash, so I need to leave that money in there, too. But the more you leave in, the greater the exposure to a bank run. Is there a viable answer?? I gues Benanke will print more money to cover it all. So the theft will occur through inflation, as it already has to a certain extent. Only now the inflation could get steeper. Bernanke is stealing the money another way. Its the same as Cyprus but done differently. 0 interest rates, and rocket inflation means savings arent worth as much Another way to explain it is These figures are just made up for calculation purposes btw If you have say $100k in your account and are getting 10% interest p/a your money is earning you $10k a year and at the time say the price of an apple is $1 you eat a lot of apples a year so say you eat 1000 apples a year you still get left with a surplus of $109k all of a sudden bernanke slashes interest rates to 0 starts printing money and things start going up in price so a price of an apple goes up to $1.50 now your not earning anything on your savings your now spending $1500 a year on apples so now your savings have gone from $100k to $98500 so bernanke is effectively taking not only $1500 out of your savings, your not earning the $10k interest either now so he has fucking cleaned you out. Thats what quantitive easing is. Your money going back into the banks to pump up the stock markets. The rich get richer the poor get fucked The banks aren't banks anymore they are casinos and everyone knows the only ones who win in a casino is the house.  Excellent insights. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30994976 United States03/21/2013 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36624221 Poland03/21/2013 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I don't get is the amount of debt we are talking about with Cypress is chump change. This is obviously a pressure test to see what happens when they pull something like this. I hope Putin's spooks start taking these fuckers out one-by-one in the dark of night. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31907650 Yeah. The bankers think they are being so clever screwing with a small country's money. But they have bit off more than the can chew because Putin and his 'dons' won't take this sitting down. Some people will be paying with their lives. Putin's and his buddies will figure out who did this, and they will go after them. No warnings, just revenge. The bankers must be living in a world where they are clueless about certain realities. My guess is after two of them get popped, the banks will figure out a way - under the table - to make the Rooskies good on whatever they lost, plus interest, and a penalty. Their all in on it. Don't think for a minute Putin didn't know about this way in advance and don't think the Bankers are stupid, they knew exactly what they were doing and what effects it would have. This is all a grand plan for the one world elitists to not only rob mankind but at the same time control and enslave. Anyone with a brain can look back and see they, the banks, expanded the money supply, when they didn't have to then contracted. Old man Greenspan knew better. Its like gun control, they cause just about every freedom fighting American to go out and buy a gun,as if these guys who buy the assault rifles are going to ever give them up.. Not in this lifetime, they will have to pry them out of their dead hands. In reality they want Americans to buy guns and then once they pull the financial markets down they will watch complete mayham take place, Americans will kill each other off for the first 6 months then they can come in with military, with more powerful weapons that are outlawed and take complete dictatorial control, and they will enjoy every minute of it because these are truly blood thirsty evil people running this world. This will eventually end badly JUST AS PLANNED Get ready folks this is the beginning of the big one... Pretty accurate assessment. However I don't think Putin is in on it. He wouldn't agree to a deal that hurts his cronies. Nope, he is genuinely pissed as are his fellow 'dons.' They will get revenge by making a few examples out of a few bankers. Then the bankers will come crawling back to him begging for mercy. If the bankers try to play hardball by destroying the Russian banking system, he will give it back to them in spades. There will be dead Rothschilds including children and grandchildren. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35362569 United States03/21/2013 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The EU knew this, and knew that they would clean out the Oligarchs, Russian mafia and a load of off shore tax cheats. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36533167 Wow you guys really have NO CLUE what you are talking about, do you. The Russian investor/depositors WELCOME a 15% max tax levy. Because they'd rather cough 15% then to have the banking collapse, thus losing 100% !! 15% is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! We pay 30%-50% taxes in Western countries. I WOULD LOVE to get away with 15%!!!!! Remember, it's 15% on money that hasn't ever paid any taxes in a tax-shelter account. So PLEASE stop spamming the Cyprus issue with disinformation. It is NOT the mafia they are pissing off, it's the average citizen and small businesses of Cypress who do pay taxes already!!! CAPISH?!?! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 950188 United States03/21/2013 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35918475 United States03/21/2013 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SYDNEY (MarketWatch) — "Cyprus is facing a difficult choice between levying an unpopular tax on bank deposits or defaulting on its debt — and the tax route now looks more likely as the nation stares down a deadline to meet its lenders’ demands." Quoting: Lacoste [link to www.marketwatch.com] The Bank Levy Tax needs to be voted in Parliament first. ....and as I remember it was overwhelmingly voted against when the PM recently proposed it. So, default is realistically the only option. |
Needles Eye  User ID: 1480101 United States03/21/2013 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All BULLSHIT, they need to implement Glass Steagal and send the bankers str8 to hell! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19829601 Oh the restrictions will be put back in place, but only after TPTB have massaged the assets into the place that most benefits them. The things which are impossible with men are possible with God. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35918475 United States03/21/2013 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Citizenperth User ID: 35410550  Australia03/21/2013 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now we know the reason for the 900 million in put options that expires in 2 weeks was purchased today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30994976 +1,000,000 high/low - nudge predictions... here i come ;)... see you all tuesday ..... i'm thinking high to the max on cyprus ;) lol  Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 03/21/2013 11:25 PM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17383096 United States03/21/2013 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1159240  Cyprus03/21/2013 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Getting out of Banks here in the US as well, whatever is in savings will be put in gold, silver, and something of actual worth. I used to sell on eBay but f-that rather do cash in hand transactions and right away put that into something quick like a car I can re-sell etc.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36631225 Who ever keeps money in the banks of any country now is asking for anal penetration without lube rather sooner then later. What do you think all those bullets are for.  sad thing is, you may end up with 50 cars and an audience with no money..... :( 1. the amount of gold in the world is a set amount 2. now consider the world population...... I visit every now and then but avoid posting comments because doing so triggers my being banned - with the standard explanation of it being an ISP problem - but I did post a comment 3 days ago and so far have not been banned. What you say about physical assets is true and I agree 100%. It's a weird to say but in the case of the Euro, even the paper is better than a bank account. |
| Listen_n User ID: 1580156 United States03/21/2013 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theres no point leaving money in the banks anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36533167 Theyre not paying any interest. All they do is hit you with charges. And if shtf they take YOUR money to pay for THEIR fuck up. People shouldn't leave anything in the banks other then what they need to pay bills and shit with. They cant take it if they don't have it. I guess I don't fully grasp this shit. So a guy with 5000 bucks loses 500....how does this collapse the global economy....is it because everyone will pull their money? Did you see how the MSM knew about it before they even made their final decision? The whole WORLD saw what this bank did to their account holders. Over a bailout. How many people on a global level do you think will start pulling their money out of their accounts once they stop vacuuming, ironing, playing videos, clubbing, texting and hear the MSM say people are pulling their money out of their accounts? I think it's quite fishy they announced this so quickly. If this happens globally the financial system as a whole will collapse. Then the "all seeing eye" can sliver in and say "We are here to save the day! We will transfer 90% of your money into our One World Bank & Trust. We've already mailed you a debit card. To activate the card, you will need to visit our gov assigned doctor who will advise you on procedures to keep your card activated. Peace!" If we don't listen we will never hear the truth |
| Russian guy User ID: 24071670  Bulgaria03/21/2013 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is Cyprus Doom and that's it. It's not World Doom, US Doom, Russia Doom, or EU Doom. It's just Cyprus. Stop freaking out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 950188 It was just Greece. It is just Spain's workers. Just Italians. Just Portuguese. Just Bulgarians who are lazy and stupid unemployed youngsters, or old ready to die pensioners and cannot pay their bills for electricity (half of the minimum pension). It is just Lufthansa in Germany to strike for wages. It is going to be just Europe and just one small planet. There is a limit of endurance. When it hits the basic living things, then the people have nothing more to lose. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States03/21/2013 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Getting out of Banks here in the US as well, whatever is in savings will be put in gold, silver, and something of actual worth. I used to sell on eBay but f-that rather do cash in hand transactions and right away put that into something quick like a car I can re-sell etc.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36631225 Who ever keeps money in the banks of any country now is asking for anal penetration without lube rather sooner then later. What do you think all those bullets are for. sad thing is, you may end up with 50 cars and an audience with no money..... :( 1. the amount of gold in the world is a set amount 2. now consider the world population...... and then consider the studity of using such a limited thing as Gold or Silver as Money. Oh.. I get it reduce the population by sterilzeation, abortion, lethal diseasse, famine, pestulance, war, and just out right death of billions just so the rest have a larger amount of Gold to use for themselves.. I get it... Gold Fever really is a lethal diease. What is the main reason for advocating Gold as currency? or even a store of value? If its because its rather permanent in material and easily molded and cast and rolled, and doesn't rust.. then why not not just use nuclear fusion to make more?.. who knows. Perhaps the Who does know, but it ain't telling us. So Billion die so that Gold Fever is restrained.. but guess what, Gold Fever;s effect is that there can be Only One with all the gold. |
| Citizenperth User ID: 35410550 Australia03/21/2013 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Getting out of Banks here in the US as well, whatever is in savings will be put in gold, silver, and something of actual worth. I used to sell on eBay but f-that rather do cash in hand transactions and right away put that into something quick like a car I can re-sell etc.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36631225 Who ever keeps money in the banks of any country now is asking for anal penetration without lube rather sooner then later. What do you think all those bullets are for. sad thing is, you may end up with 50 cars and an audience with no money..... :( 1. the amount of gold in the world is a set amount 2. now consider the world population...... and then consider the studity of using such a limited thing as Gold or Silver as Money. Oh.. I get it reduce the population by sterilzeation, abortion, lethal diseasse, famine, pestulance, war, and just out right death of billions just so the rest have a larger amount of Gold to use for themselves.. I get it... Gold Fever really is a lethal diease. What is the main reason for advocating Gold as currency? or even a store of value? If its because its rather permanent in material and easily molded and cast and rolled, and doesn't rust.. then why not not just use nuclear fusion to make more?.. who knows. Perhaps the Who does know, but it ain't telling us. So Billion die so that Gold Fever is restrained.. but guess what, Gold Fever;s effect is that there can be Only One with all the gold. ^^^^^^^^ i like that :) It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States03/21/2013 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Bank of America Merrill Lynch’s chief global strategist Michael Hartnett said that the brokerage believes Cyprus will have no choice but to tax at least some of its banks’ deposit holders." Quoting: Lacoste steal, the word is steal, not tax, will you shut the fuck up with the tax bullshit! It is not a tax, it is theft, it is robbery, and it is stealing. period, Its a Tax.. not a theif, not an extortion, UNLESS.. all taxes are simply armed robbery.. which of course they are.. otherwise governments would opertare strictly on donations. |
| Children of the Atom User ID: 20257839 United States03/21/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cyprus has only 1 valid option to get out of this bankster's trap -- release Russian money and then declare bankruptcy on all foreign obligations. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36555947 Russia has only 1 valid option to get its money back if Cyprus denies it that money -- declare ECB responsible for the theft and seize all EU assets it can put its hands on, domestic or abroad. Personally, I'd start with German assets first, and if possible, German assets only. Everybody knows that Germany is guilty of this mess and I very much doubt that many, if anyone at all, would object to such action. The only rule is the rule of brute force, remember?  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States03/22/2013 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theres no point leaving money in the banks anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36533167 Theyre not paying any interest. All they do is hit you with charges. And if shtf they take YOUR money to pay for THEIR fuck up. People shouldn't leave anything in the banks other then what they need to pay bills and shit with. They cant take it if they don't have it. Remember when 'they' told you it was safter to have your money in a bank of someone else's bank mattress than your own bank mattress ? And others believed them? Such Rubes have been around generation by generation for over a thousand years. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States03/22/2013 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, stock market bounce Monday or Tuesday after they pass the "levy"? Or is there a chance they won't pass it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25994746 pass or not pass doesnt matter. DOW will go its own way , up. The Robots and their computers of SkyNet are running the trading in Wall St and all the stock exchanges now, so these are like the Aliens in the Matrix movies. The Machines just took over. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11995984 United States03/22/2013 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States03/22/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, stock market bounce Monday or Tuesday after they pass the "levy"? Or is there a chance they won't pass it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25994746 They will not pass it. Cyprus banks default. Depositors lose nearly everything. Russians included. Cyprus tries to rebuild their money laundering empire in the next 2 decades. Benny, wake up... the Bills on the Wars of the 20th Century are knocking on the bedroom door, they want to get paid the debt you own them.. for staging all that war... Benney? Benny? United 93, United 93, please respond.. United 93, United 93, please respond.. Radion statice of dead air waves.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States03/22/2013 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | every smart, well-off person i know is pulling their money out of the banks here in the states! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11995984 Hmmm.. Federal Reserve Notes, are in fact Bank Notes... interesting.. what happens when the Depositors of that Federal Reserve Bank system is Taxed by the US Gov at 10-40% of its taxes...hmmmmm..... |
| Simple_Man User ID: 15977994 United States03/22/2013 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is Cyprus Doom and that's it. It's not World Doom, US Doom, Russia Doom, or EU Doom. It's just Cyprus. Stop freaking out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 950188 You think it ends here? Do you think everything will be peachy right after they figure out the Cyprus issue? ^^^^ This people are in denial ..... It's hard for the human mind to accept was is going on economically in the world They want to imagine life going on as it has their whole life.......weekend BBq with friends.....family vacations ..... New vehicles ....etc....etc.... And I honestly understand that but these people are completely ill prepared mentally for what is about to be unleashed on this planet things are about to get really bad and it's easier to imagine life going on as usual there isn't anything we can do about it tho ....even tho we are aware about what is going to happen .....we just have to sit back at watch it unfold |
