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davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 03/22/2013 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have some friends in France and they mindset so far is not to worry about Cyprus because it is small. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24462161 Well it's the biggest deposit across Europe. So sure a small country but its weight for that matter is big. Cyprus was the trigger. If Spain follows then it's definitely over. yes Cyprus is a small country but as you say it is the trigger and once the precedent is set we will have scummy politicians over here saying it is legal because it happened elsewhere. everything that socialist Europe does our left-wing politicians think is great and they dream of doing the same here even as they watch Europe descend into chaos. one of the reasons we have obamacare is our pols saw the strangle hold that national healthcare has over Europeans and salivated at the prospect of so much power. war and killing foreigners isn't nearly as desirable as having the power of life and death over their own constituents who eventually must vote for the pol to keep the freebies coming... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24462161 Canada 03/22/2013 06:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have taken Turkey to EU instead of Greece and Cyprus, this would not happen. Quoting: yorgunpsikopat And now, Turks do not want to enter EU, because we are stronger than all of the EU countries, EU is a problematic area. They wanted the EURO so bad again without seizing what a money (currency) is. It would have been a stupid move to be part of EU. But in the long run if it foes down it won't make much difference for you as well. That's a massive sinkhole we are to witness. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36559609 Spain 03/22/2013 06:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real estate global market crash stank to high heaven..watching it unfold..it was whippedstarted via rumors and fear mongering before the prices even started to come down.. It was in my opinion the rumors that started the R/E market crash..always been bank debts and bad loans in my opinion Now this.. was speaking to a Bank Director the other day and he is of the same opinion..he says it seems like "someone" is trying to whipstart a bank run Question is why? Who would benefit? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26483148 United Kingdom 03/22/2013 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theft is theft. Accept 0.2% and you may as well accept 10%, 15%... the sky's the limit for these bastards. You only have to look at our VAT to tell you what their tactics are. Quoting: Anonymous 843492 The Cyprus vote was cancelled again this morning to wait for news to filter through that plan 'A' means people only lose a little money and if not they'll lose the lot when the banks go belly up. They're currently waiting on Joe Public to beg them to go ahead with plan 'A' and then the Cypriot government will comply and 'save' everyone's money... at least that's the spin they'll put out. If this actually happens then governments worldwide will have been given the green light to do the same. They'll know that people would willingly lose X amount than everything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36559609 Spain 03/22/2013 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we have to seriously address the question: who would benefit from a global or regional bank run? Input.. Been doing some research..seems one of the consecuences is creating economical turmoil and then stearing the world towards war using the economical chaos as a divertion and a distraction and an excuse for economical gains through war See great depression..and also the bank run of the end of the XIX century same common denominator...or consequence so it would seem that the goal might not be economical but using the economical chaos as a means of obtaining war and gaining geopolitical advantages through war.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 788508 Spain 03/22/2013 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we have to seriously address the question: who would benefit from a global or regional bank run? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36559609 Input.. Been doing some research..seems one of the consecuences is creating economical turmoil and then stearing the world towards war using the economical chaos as a divertion and a distraction and an excuse for economical gains through war See great depression..and also the bank run of the end of the XIX century same common denominator...or consequence so it would seem that the goal might not be economical but using the economical chaos as a means of obtaining war and gaining geopolitical advantages through war.. yup. thats whats it all about.And thats where we headed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 788508 Spain 03/22/2013 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we have to seriously address the question: who would benefit from a global or regional bank run? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36559609 Input.. Been doing some research..seems one of the consecuences is creating economical turmoil and then stearing the world towards war using the economical chaos as a divertion and a distraction and an excuse for economical gains through war See great depression..and also the bank run of the end of the XIX century same common denominator...or consequence so it would seem that the goal might not be economical but using the economical chaos as a means of obtaining war and gaining geopolitical advantages through war.. yup. thats whats it all about.And thats where we headed. oops I mean where we are heading. haha. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36559609 Spain 03/22/2013 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we have to seriously address the question: who would benefit from a global or regional bank run? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36559609 Input.. Been doing some research..seems one of the consecuences is creating economical turmoil and then stearing the world towards war using the economical chaos as a divertion and a distraction and an excuse for economical gains through war See great depression..and also the bank run of the end of the XIX century same common denominator...or consequence so it would seem that the goal might not be economical but using the economical chaos as a means of obtaining war and gaining geopolitical advantages through war.. Interestingly enough in both cases time span from onset of economical crisis..bank run and war is 10 years more or less. So it would seem that Economical crisis..bank runs is a means or oddly coincidental with global war after about 10 years from the initiation of the crisis. Either this is an odd coincidence or the economical chaos is used to achieve the goal which would be geostrategic via war. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36559609 Spain 03/22/2013 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we have to seriously address the question: who would benefit from a global or regional bank run? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36559609 Input.. Been doing some research..seems one of the consecuences is creating economical turmoil and then stearing the world towards war using the economical chaos as a divertion and a distraction and an excuse for economical gains through war See great depression..and also the bank run of the end of the XIX century same common denominator...or consequence so it would seem that the goal might not be economical but using the economical chaos as a means of obtaining war and gaining geopolitical advantages through war.. yup. thats whats it all about.And thats where we headed. I dont think we are headed that way at all. People have changed a lot now, more aware. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24462161 Canada 03/22/2013 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real estate global market crash stank to high heaven..watching it unfold..it was whippedstarted via rumors and fear mongering before the prices even started to come down.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36559609 It was in my opinion the rumors that started the R/E market crash..always been bank debts and bad loans in my opinion Now this.. was speaking to a Bank Director the other day and he is of the same opinion..he says it seems like "someone" is trying to whipstart a bank run Question is why? Who would benefit? Who would you think could put peoples in deep shit to come at them afterward with a solution only if they agree to enslave themselves a little moar!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36559609 Spain 03/22/2013 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you could maybe tie? a.The previous bank bailouts b.The real estate crash c.This alleged attempt at bank run etc.. with trying to create economical turmoil with the view of initiating global war in a span of 10 /15 years from now give or take in order to gain geopolitical preplanned goals? I say..Bingo |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11108048 United States 03/22/2013 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have some friends in France and they mindset so far is not to worry about Cyprus because it is small. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24462161 Well it's the biggest deposit across Europe. So sure a small country but its weight for that matter is big. Cyprus was the trigger. If Spain follows then it's definitely over. CYPRUS IS THE CANARY IN THE COAL MINE. AN AVALANCHE STARTS WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF SNOW. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36559609 Spain 03/22/2013 07:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you could maybe tie? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36559609 a.The previous bank bailouts b.The real estate crash c.This alleged attempt at bank run etc.. with trying to create economical turmoil with the view of initiating global war in a span of 10 /15 years from now give or take in order to gain geopolitical preplanned goals? I say..Bingo you shuffle and rearrange as you want? or out of chaos you create the order you want or have preplanned?? |
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LT Prepper User ID: 36491699 United States 03/22/2013 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According the French newspaper article citing Spain prime, a 0.2% tax on deposit to come. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24462161 Prime said this has nothing to do with Cyprus tax. Sure, and I'm queen Elizabeth In French [link to www.latribune.fr] Keep your eyes on Ireland, folks... it is coming there, next. Ireland is a "tax haven" also. Meaning, there are lots of juicy, fat accounts held by off-shore parties. Many of those account-holders are US and Canadians...and TPTB want to drag all the north American money in, too. Italy and Spain are in line for full-on bank runs, but Ireland will go next. Ultimately Germany (Deutsche Bank) is at the center of it all. DB has been on life support for over a year, and the Germans don't want to let it die, thus the pressure the German-led ECB is applying to all other EU nations to fix their messes - Germany knows that they can't fix their own, but don't want to be the first to crash...they want to go last. Read it - [link to ncrenegade.com] 26 April, 2012 - Deutsche Bank (DB) has had a stream of bad news lately, and there is no upside in sight. Their one-year return is presently at -19%, and gives no indication that it will break the present losing streak. With mounting losses, and increased capitalization requirements from new regulations, DB faces the proverbial “rock and a hard place” scenario, where it cannot cover its obligations without selling assets, at the same time regulations require banks to increase assets of proven value. With all of the European economies printing somewhere between double-dip recession and crushing depression, and the US economy just barely treading water, where would any potential upside for Deutsche come from? It seems that no one has the answer… and if no answer is forthcoming, and DB takes another round of losses in keeping with the current trend, which is becoming more likely with each passing day of financial losses throughout Europe, then Deutsche faces the prospect of becoming the next Dexia. Deutsche is the biggest bank in Germany, and Germany is the largest and strongest economy in Europe… so the consequences of any major damage (or cumulative smaller damaging events) to DB would very likely cascade throughout the Euro-Zone, with terminal results. The echo-effect of any major diminution in DB’s value, or loss of public confidence in the bank, would cause losses throughout the Euro market, which would in turn do further damage to Deutsche (increased default rates on loans, and loss of value on other bank-owned assets in the EU market) – so we have the prospect of a runaway train crash in its most naked state. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24462161 Canada 03/22/2013 07:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According the French newspaper article citing Spain prime, a 0.2% tax on deposit to come. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24462161 Prime said this has nothing to do with Cyprus tax. Sure, and I'm queen Elizabeth In French [link to www.latribune.fr] Keep your eyes on Ireland, folks... it is coming there, next. Ireland is a "tax haven" also. Meaning, there are lots of juicy, fat accounts held by off-shore parties. Many of those account-holders are US and Canadians...and TPTB want to drag all the north American money in, too. Italy and Spain are in line for full-on bank runs, but Ireland will go next. Ultimately Germany (Deutsche Bank) is at the center of it all. DB has been on life support for over a year, and the Germans don't want to let it die, thus the pressure the German-led ECB is applying to all other EU nations to fix their messes - Germany knows that they can't fix their own, but don't want to be the first to crash...they want to go last. Read it - [link to ncrenegade.com] 26 April, 2012 - Deutsche Bank (DB) has had a stream of bad news lately, and there is no upside in sight. Their one-year return is presently at -19%, and gives no indication that it will break the present losing streak. With mounting losses, and increased capitalization requirements from new regulations, DB faces the proverbial “rock and a hard place” scenario, where it cannot cover its obligations without selling assets, at the same time regulations require banks to increase assets of proven value. With all of the European economies printing somewhere between double-dip recession and crushing depression, and the US economy just barely treading water, where would any potential upside for Deutsche come from? It seems that no one has the answer… and if no answer is forthcoming, and DB takes another round of losses in keeping with the current trend, which is becoming more likely with each passing day of financial losses throughout Europe, then Deutsche faces the prospect of becoming the next Dexia. Deutsche is the biggest bank in Germany, and Germany is the largest and strongest economy in Europe… so the consequences of any major damage (or cumulative smaller damaging events) to DB would very likely cascade throughout the Euro-Zone, with terminal results. The echo-effect of any major diminution in DB’s value, or loss of public confidence in the bank, would cause losses throughout the Euro market, which would in turn do further damage to Deutsche (increased default rates on loans, and loss of value on other bank-owned assets in the EU market) – so we have the prospect of a runaway train crash in its most naked state. To feed your input [link to www.businessinsider.com] |