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Confessions of a Recent College Grad

 
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I started from the bottom ten years ago as a young teenage bus-boy trying to afford Yu-Gi-Oh cards. Recently, I have graduated college as a double major. I've also had excellent internships with notable firms the past year and a half.

And yet, somehow, something catastrophic happened. I have been turned down to what could have been a pretty easy entry-level position. During the interview, I wore a suit. As a young male in NYC, you're going up against women, gay, minorities, and trust-fund grads. The interview went longer than expected, and it was a damn good enjoyable interview.

I was just so flabbergasted when I had the email that said that the position went to another candidate. No man should be left without a job. I find it extremely sad that anyone should be unemployed. But more importantly, I had the experience, and the right attitude. I keep my politics at the door, and I make sure the interview is also enjoyable for my potential employer. I also practice my speech at home, making cue cards and practicing answers.

Now, I'm not angry. I do understand that a hiring process is a business, and that hiring a candidate is an investment. I firmly believe they made a mistake. I guess this happens, and is part of reality. I knew finding a job would be hard. But I didn't think it would be this hard. In fact, it's not even hard. It's just a combination of playing wait-and-see mixed with some D&D-dicing.

I obviously won't give up. And I will not have 'fun' being unemployed. In fact, that's one of the worst things. I can't even enjoy my videogames since I know it's not me providing for my favorite past-time now. I also know people older than me unemployed, and drinking/smoking and stuff acting like bums. That's not me at all (I'm a straight-edge too).

Oh-and college is BS. I should have done a trade school. Seriously. Finance/Economics aren't even requirements, yet Women's Studies are? Ridiculous. Also, I do hope colleges go out of business. Do you know why? Go and Youtube Finance 101. BAM! Everything you need to learn from a semester of school can be taught in a DAY from the Internet.

A school's institute holds back innovation instead of competing. Let this be a word of caution for your children since a lot of you are probably a lot older than I am. But then again. I'm sure you all know this. It's GLP-- and this is the smartest forum I've ever been on (I mean it).
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college is about making friends
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dude,


life aint TV,


if you are just getting out of school and looking for a job, you're already fucked.


You should of had job in hand before you graduated:

through family/ friends/ connections.


If you are just getting out of school and looking for a job, and dont have connections pulling for you,


yea, you are about to get a quick lesson in how the world works
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College/university is a fucking money scam, these days. They mostly turn out propagandized and brainwashed, politically correct debt slaves.

You still have time to learn a trade.

I would imagine being a plumber or HVAC guy in New York would get you a good 6-figure salary.
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It sounds like you got the education you paid for, good luck with that.
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College isn't BS. The interesting thing I have seen over the course of the last couple of decades is that more and more companies want to hire people they know of: recommendations from other employees, promotion from within, kids of employees, past classmates, temp-to-hire workers they like and such. You need to begin networking.
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college is about making friends
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There are lots of sorority and frat kids who got jobs because of the alumni...my son included. Go figure, huh?
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I know I know,


TV popular culture says,


you finish school and with your resume you go off and find a good job.


ahahahah


here is how it really works,

you go to school and then:

your parents or your family make calls and get you a nice job,

or

your friends buddies call and get you a job, this is why people join fraternities and sororities


if you dont already have a job lined up from this, you're in trouble

after those^

it gets into how attractive you are.



The LAST thing people will look at is your grades, your internships and that sort of shit.
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All of what you said seems to be true with college and how things are going, I am also young like you :D
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college is about making friends
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There are lots of sorority and frat kids who got jobs because of the alumni...my son included. Go figure, huh?
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i'm a UF student and it's obvious that the only way to get ahead in life is to make nice
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You picked the wrong majors, I would have loved to have been a history professor but there are no jobs. I live in a part of the world where they do oil exploration so I went to school for geology and didn't even finish my degree. Now I make $250 000 to $300 000 per year. I hate the oil patch but it pays well. I literally teach newbies with Master Degrees or PHD's, they are clueless in the real world, and by education they should be teaching me. Nope! And each generation gets dumber & dumber, lacking critical thinking ability, only able to repeat someone elses mantra, fucking brainwashed useless robots.
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Become a gym teacher hahahahaha
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I know I know,


TV popular culture says,


you finish school and with your resume you go off and find a good job.


ahahahah


here is how it really works,

you go to school and then:

your parents or your family make calls and get you a nice job,

or

your friends buddies call and get you a job, this is why people join fraternities and sororities


if you dont already have a job lined up from this, you're in trouble


after those^

it gets into how attractive you are.



The LAST thing people will look at is your grades, your internships and that sort of shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256


Very definitely what he says...
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Lol. All great points guys. Especially the Canada post above me. Sweet deal!

Well, as mentioned. I'm gonna stick it out a bit and also look for alternatives. I graduated at the end of January so this was my first interview and such. I do have another one coming up though, so we'll see.

As far as trade is concerned, I'll definitely look into those since I'm not really interested in a graduate program. I've actually cut hair in Florida back in my scene days. It wasn't much. But I did razor-cuts, straightening, etc. The last cut I did was for an Indian guy. I turned his thick curly Muslim terrorist hair to an Adam Lambert cut. So maybe I could pursue barbering/salon stuff. I also wouldn't mind being an exterminator. Especially with all these bed bug people in the city. They sure could use me.

Anyway. It's great to hear responses from real people for once >.>
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I was just so flabbergasted when I had the email that said that the position went to another candidate. No man should be left without a job. I find it extremely sad that anyone should be unemployed. But more importantly, I had the experience, and the right attitude. I keep my politics at the door, and I make sure the interview is also enjoyable for my potential employer. I also practice my speech at home, making cue cards and practicing answers.

Now, I'm not angry. I do understand that a hiring process is a business, and that hiring a candidate is an investment. I firmly believe they made a mistake. I guess this happens, and is part of reality. I knew finding a job would be hard. But I didn't think it would be this hard. In fact, it's not even hard. It's just a combination of playing wait-and-see mixed with some D&D-dicing.
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You didn't get the job. Don't flip out about it. They decided they found somebody they wanted better than you.

If you were the employer, would you employ everybody that turned up for an interview? No you wouldn't. And neither will anybody else.

Go get another interview, try again. Keep trying until you get a job.
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I've a BullShit in Chemistry, almost double majors in biochem and physics. I work in the trades. I would agree with every person here that says college is a debt scam!

It took me years to pay off the few college loans I took out! 450 a month for a fucking education I do not utilize! Fucking scam to the core.

I graduated with folks who were bigger cretins coming out than they were going in to collegiate system. I had the fortune of having been a paramedic for five years when I began college. That combined with a couple of seasons eating dirt as a wildland firefighter and work experience as a mason and carpenter kept me from drinking the whole jug of KoolAid.

Utter waste.
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so..

you´re telling us, you had just 1 interview

and are now embarrassed they did not offer _you_ the job?

in a city like NY ?

are you kidding me?

be glad you had that 1 interview,
see it as a training,
there´s more than just _you_ with a college grad
out there trying to find a job !
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Just keep applying, you gotta expect knockbacks, no need to feel rejected, it's just a game, they can have a selected applicant in mind, but are obliged to interview others to seem 'fair'.
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Network marketing is future (MLM). Be your own boss.
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Seriously who gives a shit
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I started from the bottom ten years ago as a young teenage bus-boy trying to afford Yu-Gi-Oh cards. Recently, I have graduated college as a double major. I've also had excellent internships with notable firms the past year and a half.

And yet, somehow, something catastrophic happened. I have been turned down to what could have been a pretty easy entry-level position. During the interview, I wore a suit. As a young male in NYC, you're going up against women, gay, minorities, and trust-fund grads. The interview went longer than expected, and it was a damn good enjoyable interview.

I was just so flabbergasted when I had the email that said that the position went to another candidate. No man should be left without a job. I find it extremely sad that anyone should be unemployed. But more importantly, I had the experience, and the right attitude. I keep my politics at the door, and I make sure the interview is also enjoyable for my potential employer. I also practice my speech at home, making cue cards and practicing answers.

Now, I'm not angry. I do understand that a hiring process is a business, and that hiring a candidate is an investment. I firmly believe they made a mistake. I guess this happens, and is part of reality. I knew finding a job would be hard. But I didn't think it would be this hard. In fact, it's not even hard. It's just a combination of playing wait-and-see mixed with some D&D-dicing.

I obviously won't give up. And I will not have 'fun' being unemployed. In fact, that's one of the worst things. I can't even enjoy my videogames since I know it's not me providing for my favorite past-time now. I also know people older than me unemployed, and drinking/smoking and stuff acting like bums. That's not me at all (I'm a straight-edge too).

Oh-and college is BS. I should have done a trade school. Seriously. Finance/Economics aren't even requirements, yet Women's Studies are? Ridiculous. Also, I do hope colleges go out of business. Do you know why? Go and Youtube Finance 101. BAM! Everything you need to learn from a semester of school can be taught in a DAY from the Internet.

A school's institute holds back innovation instead of competing. Let this be a word of caution for your children since a lot of you are probably a lot older than I am. But then again. I'm sure you all know this. It's GLP-- and this is the smartest forum I've ever been on (I mean it).
 Quoting: The Vigilante


I'm so glad I flunked out of college - social shock thing mostly :P

That double life thing of suit/gamer you're getting into would have driven me insane before I was ready to handle it.

No expectations = no disappointment. Keep that in mind for your next interview. Don't get wrong - nothing wrong with your attitude at all IMO, OP. No regrets and all's well :)

I'm saving for my daughters' college educations, but in an account that will allow them to use 100% of the money however they wish after they're 21. Come that day when they ask what I think about them going to college, I'll answer with the question of whether it's going or not going that feels right for them.

Nice read, 100% agree with the parts that could be argued by one :)
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I started from the bottom ten years ago as a young teenage bus-boy trying to afford Yu-Gi-Oh cards. Recently, I have graduated college as a double major. I've also had excellent internships with notable firms the past year and a half.

And yet, somehow, something catastrophic happened. I have been turned down to what could have been a pretty easy entry-level position. During the interview, I wore a suit. As a young male in NYC, you're going up against women, gay, minorities, and trust-fund grads. The interview went longer than expected, and it was a damn good enjoyable interview.

I was just so flabbergasted when I had the email that said that the position went to another candidate. No man should be left without a job. I find it extremely sad that anyone should be unemployed. But more importantly, I had the experience, and the right attitude. I keep my politics at the door, and I make sure the interview is also enjoyable for my potential employer. I also practice my speech at home, making cue cards and practicing answers.

Now, I'm not angry. I do understand that a hiring process is a business, and that hiring a candidate is an investment. I firmly believe they made a mistake. I guess this happens, and is part of reality. I knew finding a job would be hard. But I didn't think it would be this hard. In fact, it's not even hard. It's just a combination of playing wait-and-see mixed with some D&D-dicing.

I obviously won't give up. And I will not have 'fun' being unemployed. In fact, that's one of the worst things. I can't even enjoy my videogames since I know it's not me providing for my favorite past-time now. I also know people older than me unemployed, and drinking/smoking and stuff acting like bums. That's not me at all (I'm a straight-edge too).

Oh-and college is BS. I should have done a trade school. Seriously. Finance/Economics aren't even requirements, yet Women's Studies are? Ridiculous. Also, I do hope colleges go out of business. Do you know why? Go and Youtube Finance 101. BAM! Everything you need to learn from a semester of school can be taught in a DAY from the Internet.

A school's institute holds back innovation instead of competing. Let this be a word of caution for your children since a lot of you are probably a lot older than I am. But then again. I'm sure you all know this. It's GLP-- and this is the smartest forum I've ever been on (I mean it).
 Quoting: The Vigilante


what you have learned at college is useless get a trade and man up
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Lots of job you cant even qualify for the interview without a degree. It does not always mean you are prepared for a career, but often there are positions that require college. There are good jobs for people with out degrees but they still require some training and ineptness of learning and networking to find out about.
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Lots of job you cant even qualify for the interview without a degree. It does not always mean you are prepared for a career, but often there are positions that require college. There are good jobs for people with out degrees but they still require some training and ineptness of learning and networking to find out about.
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a degree is an over rated pile of crap,the easy way to get a degree is just make up lies and pretend you have got one,everyone lies on job applications anyway
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You picked the wrong majors, I would have loved to have been a history professor but there are no jobs. I live in a part of the world where they do oil exploration so I went to school for geology and didn't even finish my degree. Now I make $250 000 to $300 000 per year. I hate the oil patch but it pays well. I literally teach newbies with Master Degrees or PHD's, they are clueless in the real world, and by education they should be teaching me. Nope! And each generation gets dumber & dumber, lacking critical thinking ability, only able to repeat someone elses mantra, fucking brainwashed useless robots.
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If a man wanted into the oil patch where should he start?

I have heard to just show up in person is half the battle.
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Seriously who gives a shit
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After reading everyone else's advice and then seeing your post

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get prepared to be rejected again and again

and also prepare to be ignored
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Try the US Postal Service. You'd fit right in. Try not to get pissed.
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I started from the bottom ten years ago as a young teenage bus-boy trying to afford Yu-Gi-Oh cards. Recently, I have graduated college as a double major. I've also had excellent internships with notable firms the past year and a half.

And yet, somehow, something catastrophic happened. I have been turned down to what could have been a pretty easy entry-level position. During the interview, I wore a suit. As a young male in NYC, you're going up against women, gay, minorities, and trust-fund grads. The interview went longer than expected, and it was a damn good enjoyable interview.

I was just so flabbergasted when I had the email that said that the position went to another candidate. No man should be left without a job. I find it extremely sad that anyone should be unemployed. But more importantly, I had the experience, and the right attitude. I keep my politics at the door, and I make sure the interview is also enjoyable for my potential employer. I also practice my speech at home, making cue cards and practicing answers.

Now, I'm not angry. I do understand that a hiring process is a business, and that hiring a candidate is an investment. I firmly believe they made a mistake. I guess this happens, and is part of reality. I knew finding a job would be hard. But I didn't think it would be this hard. In fact, it's not even hard. It's just a combination of playing wait-and-see mixed with some D&D-dicing.

I obviously won't give up. And I will not have 'fun' being unemployed. In fact, that's one of the worst things. I can't even enjoy my videogames since I know it's not me providing for my favorite past-time now. I also know people older than me unemployed, and drinking/smoking and stuff acting like bums. That's not me at all (I'm a straight-edge too).

Oh-and college is BS. I should have done a trade school. Seriously. Finance/Economics aren't even requirements, yet Women's Studies are? Ridiculous. Also, I do hope colleges go out of business. Do you know why? Go and Youtube Finance 101. BAM! Everything you need to learn from a semester of school can be taught in a DAY from the Internet.

A school's institute holds back innovation instead of competing. Let this be a word of caution for your children since a lot of you are probably a lot older than I am. But then again. I'm sure you all know this. It's GLP-- and this is the smartest forum I've ever been on (I mean it).
 Quoting: The Vigilante

You answered it.

They only interviewed you to be PC

they probably already knew who the really wanted and it wasn't a white male.

It was one of the one's you quoted.


You best bet is to move away from that place and go to one that

LIKES white males and doesn't

discriminate against


I can't imagine WHY anyone would want to live in that shit hole
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I started from the bottom ten years ago as a young teenage bus-boy trying to afford Yu-Gi-Oh cards. Recently, I have graduated college as a double major. I've also had excellent internships with notable firms the past year and a half.

And yet, somehow, something catastrophic happened. I have been turned down to what could have been a pretty easy entry-level position. During the interview, I wore a suit. As a young male in NYC, you're going up against women, gay, minorities, and trust-fund grads. The interview went longer than expected, and it was a damn good enjoyable interview.

I was just so flabbergasted when I had the email that said that the position went to another candidate. No man should be left without a job. I find it extremely sad that anyone should be unemployed. But more importantly, I had the experience, and the right attitude. I keep my politics at the door, and I make sure the interview is also enjoyable for my potential employer. I also practice my speech at home, making cue cards and practicing answers.

Now, I'm not angry. I do understand that a hiring process is a business, and that hiring a candidate is an investment. I firmly believe they made a mistake. I guess this happens, and is part of reality. I knew finding a job would be hard. But I didn't think it would be this hard. In fact, it's not even hard. It's just a combination of playing wait-and-see mixed with some D&D-dicing.

I obviously won't give up. And I will not have 'fun' being unemployed. In fact, that's one of the worst things. I can't even enjoy my videogames since I know it's not me providing for my favorite past-time now. I also know people older than me unemployed, and drinking/smoking and stuff acting like bums. That's not me at all (I'm a straight-edge too).

Oh-and college is BS. I should have done a trade school. Seriously. Finance/Economics aren't even requirements, yet Women's Studies are? Ridiculous. Also, I do hope colleges go out of business. Do you know why? Go and Youtube Finance 101. BAM! Everything you need to learn from a semester of school can be taught in a DAY from the Internet.

A school's institute holds back innovation instead of competing. Let this be a word of caution for your children since a lot of you are probably a lot older than I am. But then again. I'm sure you all know this. It's GLP-- and this is the smartest forum I've ever been on (I mean it).
 Quoting: The Vigilante

You answered it.

They only interviewed you to be PC

they probably already knew who the really wanted and it wasn't a white male.

It was one of the one's you quoted.


You best bet is to move away from that place and go to one that

LIKES white males and doesn't

discriminate against


I can't imagine WHY anyone would want to live in that shit hole
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Besides, what ever job you do get

you are going to pay a lot for living expenses in that shit hole

it is waaaaay over priced for everything.

Go somewhere else

you are young

do market research and find a place that pays well for what you do

and has low

Living expenses

because,

let me tell you

BY THE TIME YOU ARE ABOUT 50, YOU WILL WANT TO RETIRE.

this society will tire you out working in it.

I speak from much experience!!

I am saving A shit load of money for the next 5 years and will retire

If you keep living in those type of high dollar

expensive places,

you will save NOTHING for your own retirement.

this is a voice of experience.
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I graduated at the end of January so this was my first interview and such. I do have another one coming up though, so we'll see.
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