the discussion on this thread is the best I have found anywhere so far on these subjects! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29203778
what about this: conscious IS mind, they are interchangable words for the same, yes/no? why?
Consciousness and 'mind' are not the same thing.
A 'mind' is a 'spatiality' of consciousness as I have written above.
If you want to assume that that is the only dimension of consciousness, you are welcome to do that. That, for example, is mostly what Western psychology does. But it is incomplete.
For example, that is not what the Eastern esotericists have observed.
They have said that there is another non-spatial, non-temporal dimension of consciousness--an "observing consciousness", unfettered by images of 'spatiality', or the 'temporal' dimension of the 'thinker'--prior to the existence of the 'spatial' and 'temporal' consciousness.
In terms of the monotheistic Revelations: The consciousness Created by God is not the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'.