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Message Subject Predator of Consciousness
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My objection is that what you are saying cannot be directly observed.
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It can be directly observed and I have seen it and experienced it in what you call experienced reality and also in meditation and dreaming.

When I was young I used to gaze at rocks, plants or clouds and I would see shadows moving around in my peripheral vision. I have fined tuned my gazing since then to be able to see these mud shadows and flyers very easily and I can often see them attached to people or moving about. I can feel their energy also, especially the energy of the bigger ones. So can other people. So to me their existence is not in question. They can take on any form be it angel, demon, reptilian, grey alien, whatever the person viewing them believes in. What do you think a succubus or an incubus is? These things are real they are not the creation of humans. They are all the same shape shifting spiritual entity.

What do you think children are seeing when they have an imaginary friend? The predator is very attracted to children because their energy is different then adults until the child reaches puberty. That is why most children will stop seeing their imaginary friend around puberty. You have to understand that the human body is like a generator constantly giving off energy. This is no coincidence. It has been said by science that the human body gives off more heat per square inch then the sun. That is because people have a sun inside them, they have the whole universe inside them. If you talk to people that had imaginary friends they will tell you that some encounters left them feeling drained of energy and sometimes they felt regenerated by the experience. This is where the idea of "watchers" comes from.

There is no such thing as a hallucination. The definition of a hallucination is to experience something that doesn't exist. This is not possible. If you have experienced it then it exists. This is why people that have altered their assemblage point or have opened their doors of perception are able to see into other worlds especially the spiritual and they are placed in mental institutions where they are tortured. Consensus view does not make something more real remember I said that.

Darkness had descended very quickly, and the foliage of the trees that had been glowing green a little while before was now very dark and heavy. Don Juan said that if I paid close attention to the darkness of the foliage without focusing my eyes, but sort: of looked at it from the corner of my eye, I would see a fleeting shadow crossing my field of vision.

"This is the appropriate time of day for doing what I am asking you to do," he said. "It takes a moment to engage the necessary attention in you to do it. Don't stop until you catch that fleeting black shadow."

I did see some strange fleeting black shadow projected on the foliage of the trees. It was either one shadow going back and forth or various fleeting shadows moving from left to right or right to left or straight up in the air. They looked like fat black fish to me,

enormous fish. It was as if gigantic swordfish were flying in the air. I was engrossed in the sight. Then, finally, it scared me. It became too dark to see the foliage, yet I could still see the fleeting black shadows.

"What is it, don Juan?" I asked. "I see fleeting black shadows all over the place."

"Ah, that's the universe at large," he said, "incommensurable, nonlinear, outside the realm of syntax. The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were the first ones to see those fleeting shadows, so they followed them around. They saw them as you're seeing them, and they saw them as energy that flows in the universe, And they did discover something transcendental."

He stopped talking and looked at me. His pauses were perfectly placed. He always stopped talking when I was hanging by a thread.

"What did they discover, don Juan?" I asked.

"They discovered that we have a companion for life," he said, as clearly as he could.
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There are many websites and videos about this I will give you one link that compares the teaching of Don Juan with the Gnostic texts.

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

Here is a short quote from the above website.

It follows that the intent to arrange our minds and lives so that the flyers/Archons are not willing to intrude on us is the capital exercise, the primary test in progress for humanity.
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Well, clearly, you are talking about something here that is beyond my experience.

This is not what I mean by the word "observation"; but that probably cannot be explained in a way that you would be able to understand because of the things that you do see, rather than observe.

In other words, when I use the word "observe", I am not talking about "seeing".

There is the example of Wilhelm Reich who was able to observe the character structures of his clients; that is more of what I am talking about; the perception of the reflexes, mechanisms, interactions, etc. of the dualistic consciousness and the tenacity with which it holds to images, thoughts and memories for self-preservation.

I was on the Krishnamurti forum for maybe 3 or 4 years, engaging in probably hundreds of discussions and easily thousands of comments. And, over and over, it came down to the question of what was meant by the word "observe".

Now, you might think that people acquainted with the teaching of Krishnamurti would know what that term meant; but, over and over, I encountered people who could mimic the words of Krishnamurti; but, when questioned, could not go beyond anything he had said. They claimed to be able to "observe" some of the things he said; but when I questioned them on associated "observations", they completely drew a blank. They were conditioned to what Krishnamurti had told them but could not observe beyond what he had observed.

You might want to listen to some of the video tapes of Krishnamurti or read some of his commentaries when he explains similar kinds of experiences that he had; but, ultimately, determined that they were distractions from the reality of consciousness. It seems I recall, if I am not mistaken, that he was able to see what he called "fairies" or 'elementals' associated with plants and certain geographical locations.

I have seen in my peripheral vision actions of people during their previous lives; a nurse in a neo-natal intensive care unit who, in a previous life, was an American Indian priest or shaman, for example. And, sometimes during a conversation, a person's face will 'flicker' between lives.

But, other than that, I have no experiences similar to yours.

Michael
 
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