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Smokers Are Mentally Ill-If they are, is making them stop smoking wise?

 
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What does it make you if you are a veteran,a gun owner and smoke?

[link to www.clinicalconnection.com]

Adults with a mental illness or a substance-abuse disorder represent about 25 percent of the U.S. population but account for nearly 40 percent of all cigarettes smoked in the country, according to a new study.

The researchers also said that the smoking rate among adults aged 18 and older with a mental illness or substance-abuse disorder is about 38 percent, compared with just under 20 percent for those without these conditions.

This means that the current rate of smoking among adults with a mental illness or a substance-abuse disorder is 94 percent higher than among adults without the disorders, according to the U.S. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) report.
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Everyone is mentally ill, no joke.
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misleading title. it does not say that at all. it says simply that those with mental illness are more likely to smoke.
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Above poster correct, everyone has challenges.
But who is really ill?
Well, people who charge exorbitant interest and throw people on the street are certainly mentally ill!
People on a war power trip, obvious.
People who set out to hurt others for fun, plainly.
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Everyone is mentally ill, no joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36708238


Live in the future, now...a fair for all and no fair to anybody!

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Since Adolph Hitler was the first to start anti smoking campaigns in the 20th century, I'm not surprised by articles like that.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Since Adolph Hitler was the first to start anti smoking campaigns in the 20th century, I'm not surprised by articles like that.
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


The things I learn on glp.....
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misleading title. it does not say that at all. it says simply that those with mental illness are more likely to smoke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36786665


Please, Sir or Mam, can you get a job here? They need folks who are rational:

[link to www.drugabuse.gov]

They have a lot trouble reading studies on pot....
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Since Adolph Hitler was the first to start anti smoking campaigns in the 20th century, I'm not surprised by articles like that.
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


The things I learn on glp.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10561443



Look it up

with the Nazis - smoking bad but meth good
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Since Adolph Hitler was the first to start anti smoking campaigns in the 20th century, I'm not surprised by articles like that.
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


The things I learn on glp.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10561443



Look it up

with the Nazis - smoking bad but meth good
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Great book...

[link to feralhouse.com]


Elvis Presley, the Hell’s Angels, Hunter S. Thompson, Truman Capote, the Beatles, Judy Garland, Hank Williams, Jack Kerouac, Johnny Cash, JFK, the Manson Family and Adolf Hitler. All of the above were, at one time or another, to put it bluntly, speedfreaks
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What does it make you if you are a veteran,a gun owner and smoke?

[link to www.clinicalconnection.com]

Adults with a mental illness or a substance-abuse disorder represent about 25 percent of the U.S. population but account for nearly 40 percent of all cigarettes smoked in the country, according to a new study.

The researchers also said that the smoking rate among adults aged 18 and older with a mental illness or substance-abuse disorder is about 38 percent, compared with just under 20 percent for those without these conditions.

This means that the current rate of smoking among adults with a mental illness or a substance-abuse disorder is 94 percent higher than among adults without the disorders, according to the U.S. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) report.

 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Yep....here we go.
Obamacare / government going to use this propaganda to classify smokers as mentally ill.

Why???

gncntrl

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What does it make you if you are a veteran,a gun owner and smoke?

[link to www.clinicalconnection.com]

Adults with a mental illness or a substance-abuse disorder represent about 25 percent of the U.S. population but account for nearly 40 percent of all cigarettes smoked in the country, according to a new study.

The researchers also said that the smoking rate among adults aged 18 and older with a mental illness or substance-abuse disorder is about 38 percent, compared with just under 20 percent for those without these conditions.

This means that the current rate of smoking among adults with a mental illness or a substance-abuse disorder is 94 percent higher than among adults without the disorders, according to the U.S. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) report.

 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Thats fucking rich coming from a simple american who along with millions of orthers voted for a cock sucking querr OBUMMA and a fucking MUZZIE plus a NON AMERICAN fuck me now thats what i call mentaly ill bunch of cunts now fuck off.
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Since Adolph Hitler was the first to start anti smoking campaigns in the 20th century, I'm not surprised by articles like that.
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


The things I learn on glp.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10561443



Look it up

with the Nazis - smoking bad but meth good
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Great book...

[link to feralhouse.com]


Elvis Presley, the Hell’s Angels, Hunter S. Thompson, Truman Capote, the Beatles, Judy Garland, Hank Williams, Jack Kerouac, Johnny Cash, JFK, the Manson Family and Adolf Hitler. All of the above were, at one time or another, to put it bluntly, speedfreaks
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia



Interesting! Thx for the link

I was only aware of Hitler creating the damn stuff for his army
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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I got a message for whoever wrote this:

UP YOURS!!!!!
SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY!

I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.

flatearth
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Yep....here we go.
Obamacare / government going to use this propaganda to classify smokers as mentally ill.

Why???


 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Because smoking is the gateway to cocaine abuse? (feel like us poor potheads yet?rofl The "gateway theory" can be applied to everything!)

[link to www.drugabuse.gov]

Neurobiological effect may explain why smoking is gateway to cocaine abuse, researchers say.
February 20, 2013
Lori Whitten, NIDA Notes Staff Writer
Nicotine sensitizes the mouse brain to the addictive effects of cocaine, according to recent NIDA-supported research. If the findings carry over to people, they would suggest that preventing youths from smoking might reduce their vulnerability to cocaine abuse and addiction, and cocaine-dependent individuals might ease their path to recovery, by quitting smoking
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I got a message for whoever wrote this:

UP YOURS!!!!!
 Quoting: natasha77


No doubt their propaganda message was created by someone from the modern day version of "Geobbel's propaganda office".

obey2

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Yep....here we go.
Obamacare / government going to use this propaganda to classify smokers as mentally ill.

Why???


 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Because smoking is the gateway to cocaine abuse? (feel like us poor potheads yet?rofl The "gateway theory" can be applied to everything!)

[link to www.drugabuse.gov]

Neurobiological effect may explain why smoking is gateway to cocaine abuse, researchers say.
February 20, 2013
Lori Whitten, NIDA Notes Staff Writer
Nicotine sensitizes the mouse brain to the addictive effects of cocaine, according to recent NIDA-supported research. If the findings carry over to people, they would suggest that preventing youths from smoking might reduce their vulnerability to cocaine abuse and addiction, and cocaine-dependent individuals might ease their path to recovery, by quitting smoking

 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Then why are there FAR more smokers than coke heads?
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Two of the three voices in my head are telling me to go out and do some yard work, the other one is wondering if Penguins have knees .......
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Then why are there FAR more smokers than coke heads?
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Probably the same reason every pot user is not a heroin addict.hf
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Two of the three voices in my head are telling me to go out and do some yard work, the other one is wondering if Penguins have knees .......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33838111



ROFL!!!!
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Smoking helps me being mentally chill.
“We can not solve our problems with the same level of thinking that created them” -Albert Einstein

I believe in the power of imagination. I believe in the unexplained possibilities of the spirit. And I believe that the heart, like any other muscle, grows stiff if it is not exercised regularly. -Eve Zibart
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Personally, I think the truly crazy ones are the scientists that think mouse and rat brains are the same as human ones
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Time for one last smoke before work

see ya all later!
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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I would say smoking causes mental illness. Nicotine takes over the dopermine receptors and over time u start to lose interest in the world around you and can lead to depression. rant
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I would say smoking causes mental illness. Nicotine takes over the dopermine receptors and over time u start to lose interest in the world around you and can lead to depression. rant
 Quoting: loner007



BS

I've been smoking for over 30 years and have NEVER suffered depression nor lost interest in the world around me
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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a smoke or a drink will calm your nerves

reading scripture will do the same

you still wanna make that distinction?

watch what you say it's easy to make stupid connections..psch and soc studies never talk that shit
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Personally, I think the truly crazy ones are the scientists that think mouse and rat brains are the same as human ones
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


The fact that mice are not people is finally starting to demand attention in science:

[link to www.sciencenews.org]

In the new study, a group of Canadian and American researchers compared how human and mouse genes respond to certain types of trauma. They looked at gene activity in the blood of 167 people severely injured either by burns or by blunt trauma, such as in a car accident. They compared those results with gene activity in the blood of mice with similar injuries. The team also examined the reactions to an injection of endotoxin, a bacterial toxin, of four healthy people and 16 mice.

People’s immune systems reacted in predictable ways, cranking up activity in genes that cause inflammation and quieting other immune system genes, Tompkins says. When the researchers compared the gene activity changes in people with burns versus people with trauma, they found 97 percent similarity. For injuries and endotoxin exposure, 88 percent of genes responses were similar.

But mouse responses were more varied, says study coauthor Wenzhong Xiao, a genome scientist at Harvard University and Stanford University. Compared with what goes on in humans, 47 to 63 percent of mouse genes changed activity in the same way. The result was not far from what researchers would expect from random chance



A man is not a mouse.
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most vegans are sociopathic hoarders at the end of their lives

is that because they are insane or they love cats so much that they live in filth on purpose??
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What they call mentally ill is stress disorders and vulnerability to sharks. So yeah your gona smoke because it feels good.
Psycopaths are not classified as mentally ill by the mentally ill mental health screeners.
Its all about perspective.
Psycopaths label a mental according to yoiur deviation from mediocrity and psycopathology.
Basically if you dont obey the orders of the psycopaths that run the show you are mentally ill.
All evidence points to the fact that those that obey orders are nearly 100% likely to kill you and inflict extreme pain for no reason whatsoever.
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^ Hitler was a rabid anti smoker (being an ex smoker) was also a vegetarian.

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