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Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15

 
Philligan
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Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
The suggestion to just get a double barrel shotgun for home defense deserves some discussion and demonstration, I believe, particularly since it's promoted in the context of being so much better than an AR 15.
Let just take a look at how they might stack up.


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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
AR-15 for the win
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
Brand new video btw from Hickok 45
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
I certainly would not choose a two shot capacity weapon to protect my family, that is for sure.

Far more important than weapon selection, however, is an educated understanding of firearms and their operation, and most importantly, obtaining an obsessive intimacy with the Word of God rules of firearms safety.

Then train, train, train.

Don't be an idiot holding a gun.

Be a weapon holding a tool.
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
He makes a good point.

You won't have bad guys coming in your house with something more effective than an AR
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
Either would make a fine home defense gun. So would many guns.
With the double barrel you have the advantage of two very sure, very potent shots. You have the disadvantage of only getting two shots.

With the AR you have the advantage of sustained firepower and the disadvantage of overpenetration. I think about this a lot since I have a child and since I have neighbors. The AR can be a finicky gun, too (I've been around the block so don't tell me they are the most dependable rifle ever made because they absolutely are far from it, though I'm not suggesting they are junk). The failure to function rate of an AR must be hundreds of times higher than a double barrel.

Personally, I keep a pump 12 ga next to my bed loaded with 2 3/4 inch 00 buck. I'd use #1 buck if I could find it since it would have less penetration, but still excellent effect at 5 yards.
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
Either would make a fine home defense gun. So would many guns.
With the double barrel you have the advantage of two very sure, very potent shots. You have the disadvantage of only getting two shots.

With the AR you have the advantage of sustained firepower and the disadvantage of overpenetration. I think about this a lot since I have a child and since I have neighbors. The AR can be a finicky gun, too (I've been around the block so don't tell me they are the most dependable rifle ever made because they absolutely are far from it, though I'm not suggesting they are junk). The failure to function rate of an AR must be hundreds of times higher than a double barrel.

Personally, I keep a pump 12 ga next to my bed loaded with 2 3/4 inch 00 buck. I'd use #1 buck if I could find it since it would have less penetration, but still excellent effect at 5 yards.
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If you watch the video he points out that the penetration is a myth.

Because of the velocity the bullet shatters into pieces from the AR
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
AR-15 for the win
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Yup

Last Edited by CeeLite on 03/24/2013 02:57 PM
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
I also have a Remington 870 next to my bed
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
95% of the time once you let off a round of just about anything, especially a 12 ga round, the bad guys are going to quickly seek safer exploits than your home. They want your shit and they may be willing to kill you for it,but they won't be willing to die for it.
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Biden is nothing more than a traitorous, communist maggot.
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he's not dumb at all. he WANTED people to believe useless double barrel is all they need, and give up better weapons that their gun bans have always been targeting
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
I'm not trying to shill against an AR. If I currently owned one I'd be perfectly happy to defend my home with it. Of course I'd be content with almost any handgun, shotgun, or carbine.

I do agree that with the right bullet overpenetration need not be as serious, but it is still going to be a concern. A FMJ through my living room window still has plenty of energy to get through my neighbors vinyl siding, OSB, and sheetrock.
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Re: Home Defense: Double Barrel Shotgun vs AR15
Biden is nothing more than a traitorous, communist maggot.
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he's not dumb at all. he WANTED people to believe useless double barrel is all they need, and give up better weapons that their gun bans have always been targeting
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Yep.

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