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One of the TOP 10 CHEMISTS IN THE WORLD admits Evolution is nonsense. Colleagues agree.

 
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For it to be evolution, we would have to get an entirely new species. That hasn't happened yet.
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you mean like wheat?

What sort of clown college does this guy work at that there is no biology professor who will have lunch with him and explain evolution????
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He is the 10th most cited chemist in the world. I think it's fair to say he has a bit of a professional network.

Evolutionists just want to teach their story-time to the laypublic who don't know any better. They're not going to bluff against an expert organic chemist who who is going to see through their imaginary mechanism a mile away.
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Top Ten Most Cited Chemist in the World Knows That Evolution Doesn't Work - James Tour, Phd.


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Evolution is a bluff, people. It's darwinian mysticism. It didn't happen. Fish + 400 million years =/= Humans. It's a joke. You know it is.




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For it to be evolution, we would have to get an entirely new species. That hasn't happened yet.
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you mean like wheat?

What sort of clown college does this guy work at that there is no biology professor who will have lunch with him and explain evolution????
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He is the 10th most cited chemist in the world. I think it's fair to say he has a bit of a professional network.

Evolutionists just want to teach their story-time to the laypublic who don't know any better. They're not going to bluff against an expert organic chemist who who is going to see through their imaginary mechanism a mile away.
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He's a chemist, sure I got that bit. But, what sort of clown college does this guy work at that there is no biology professor who will have lunch with him and explain evolution????
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He's a chemist, sure I got that bit. But, what sort of clown college does this guy work at that there is no biology professor who will have lunch with him and explain evolution????
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It's because there is nothing to explain. Evolution is a fancy model car with nothing under the hood.
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A scientist using an argument from incredulity.
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Argument from reason. Tour has worked around "micro-evolutionary" processes. He knows all about the mechanism and what it can and can't do.
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I've read his brag-sheet, you liar.
He's a chemical engineer, not a biologist.

It always boils down to a guy in a pulpit authoritatively declaring something he can't proof but the congregation is supposed to believe it anyway.

Shouting "That is inexplicable!" is never going to proof anything.
Particularly when the real experts say you're wrong.

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Somebody made a good point about evolution some time ago.

If evolution is happening and has been happening for eternity why can't we find any fossils of evolution in progress?
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It always boils down to a guy in a pulpit authoritatively declaring something he can't proof but the congregation is supposed to believe it anyway.

Shouting "That is inexplicable!" is never going to proof anything.
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Oh Hal, you say the darndest things. Stop pretending you care about proof or evidence. The heretic questioned your man-from-fish atheist-creationism. It's a blasphemy!
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He's a chemist, sure I got that bit. But, what sort of clown college does this guy work at that there is no biology professor who will have lunch with him and explain evolution????
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It's because there is nothing to explain. Evolution is a fancy model car with nothing under the hood.
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Apparently Dr Tour is a professor at Rice University in Texas. So why can't somebody from the Wiess School of Natural Sciences sit down and explain evolution to him? Surely they should help their fellow professors out if they are having trouble with SCIENCE!!!

One of these people should talk to him:

[link to eeb.rice.edu]
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Did you ever figure out that amphibian thang..?
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"space monkey brothers" will replace evolution

yes . it appears that the intellectual class is coming clean, to make way for the new

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If we never had dinosaurs we would have never had birds. Prehistoric mammals look a lot different than their descendants today, don't they? Hmmm, not to mention that the order of creation aligns with the big bang/evolution. Idiots think we came from aliens/god pulled us out of hat (pulled out of a hat; to think that our creation has yet to be explained in science and we seemingly came to be "magically") . Only idiots who can't accept creationism and evolution mock darwin. Just give me one shred of prove disproving evolution and I'll swallow my words.
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At the heart of Evolution is the attack on the Facts.
1)God Created the Universe and all life is on Earth, which is why Satanic lies about Life on other planets and Space Aliens is pushed so hard by those who want to deny God.

2)Science can not prove these facts about a burnt out candle, let alone the same facts about the Earth.
a.When it was made
b.Who made it(sticker on bottom exempted)
c.how big it was originally
d.how many times it was lit and put out
e.what the burn rate was throughout its burn (atmosphere)
f.where it was created

The person who made and owned the Candle could answer these questions about the Candle.
God Made the Universe and Life on the Earth if you want to know the answers about this Read the book of Genesis from the King James Bible or other OLD - non New Age Bible.
New age bibles are everything I have looked at after the 1611 King James Bible.
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It always boils down to a guy in a pulpit authoritatively declaring something he can't proof but the congregation is supposed to believe it anyway.

Shouting "That is inexplicable!" is never going to proof anything.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Oh Hal, you say the darndest things. Stop pretending you care about proof or evidence. The heretic questioned your man-from-fish atheist-creationism. It's a blasphemy!
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So now the assertion "It's not possible!!11!!" has already been reduced to 'questioning'?
Maybe he should just read a good textbook.

If he dares...
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It always boils down to a guy in a pulpit authoritatively declaring something he can't proof but the congregation is supposed to believe it anyway.

Shouting "That is inexplicable!" is never going to proof anything.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Oh Hal, you say the darndest things. Stop pretending you care about proof or evidence. The heretic questioned your man-from-fish atheist-creationism. It's a blasphemy!
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So now the assertion "It's not possible!!11!!" has already been reduced to 'questioning'?
Maybe he should just read a good textbook.

If he dares...
book
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At the heart of Evolution is the attack on the Facts.
1)God Created the Universe and all life is on Earth, which is why Satanic lies about Life on other planets and Space Aliens is pushed so hard by those who want to deny God.

2)Science can not prove these facts about a burnt out candle, let alone the same facts about the Earth.
a.When it was made
b.Who made it(sticker on bottom exempted)
c.how big it was originally
d.how many times it was lit and put out
e.what the burn rate was throughout its burn (atmosphere)
f.where it was created

The person who made and owned the Candle could answer these questions about the Candle.
God Made the Universe and Life on the Earth if you want to know the answers about this Read the book of Genesis from the King James Bible or other OLD - non New Age Bible.
New age bibles are everything I have looked at after the 1611 King James Bible.
 Quoting: Truely 6302433


Funny how all attempts to falsify Genesis have to invoke massive faith-based assumptions of their own, like you point out.. not to mention explain how all this geologic/paleontological data that LOOKS like evidence for a flood, actually isn't evidence of a flood :P

Funny how they have to make up their own mini-mass extinction events to explain away all the evidence of global death and destruction.

Genesis predicted it from the beginning, that we will find tons of remains of animals that appear to have been wiped out suddenly, and violently.
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Last time I went to the zoo monkeys were still having monkeys. If evolution is true, shouldn't they be spitting out humans by now? LOL how anyone can believe that nonsense is BEYOND me! I mean the shoes we wear on our feet had a designer, someone made them, yet people wanna believe all this here and beyond our view just "happened"?... dumb.
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He's a chemist, sure I got that bit. But, what sort of clown college does this guy work at that there is no biology professor who will have lunch with him and explain evolution????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16195657


It's because there is nothing to explain. Evolution is a fancy model car with nothing under the hood.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Apparently Dr Tour is a professor at Rice University in Texas. So why can't somebody from the Wiess School of Natural Sciences sit down and explain evolution to him? Surely they should help their fellow professors out if they are having trouble with SCIENCE!!!

One of these people should talk to him:

[link to eeb.rice.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16195657


Not in a million years. James Tour is not part of their target audience.

Evolutionists are more inclined to teach their stories to young people who don't know any better, and who don't want to fail their classes.
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If we never had dinosaurs we would have never had birds. Prehistoric mammals look a lot different than their descendants today, don't they? Hmmm, not to mention that the order of creation aligns with the big bang/evolution. Idiots think we came from aliens/god pulled us out of hat (pulled out of a hat; to think that our creation has yet to be explained in science and we seemingly came to be "magically") . Only idiots who can't accept creationism and evolution mock darwin. Just give me one shred of prove disproving evolution and I'll swallow my words.
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You can not prove something isn't, only that it is.
If by evolution you mean one species turning into another; as far as I know there is zero evidence for this just theory.
But I think it is telling that since the theory has been posited not one species has evolved into another. So if evolution did happen it seems to have happened in the distant past only which to me at least seems odd and begs the question: if evolution is a fact then what special circumstances existed in the distant past that do not exist now.

I personally believe it a mistake to try and explain speciation at the end result level.

It makes more sense to look at the problem like physicists do searching for the building blocks of matter.
In a biological sense this would be DNA/RNA
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Last time I went to the zoo monkeys were still having monkeys. If evolution is true, shouldn't they be spitting out humans by now? LOL how anyone can believe that nonsense is BEYOND me! I mean the shoes we wear on our feet had a designer, someone made them, yet people wanna believe all this here and beyond our view just "happened"?... dumb.
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You might be retarded, seek help
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Only one eh.

Overwhelming support for your theories then (OP).

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It's actually kind of sad how an educated person, especially one who is prone to being super critical, can completely miss something as plain as the nose on his or her face.

Do you understand what dogs are? Do you realize that you can wiki dogs and see exactly where they came from, which is to say, they evolved from wolves? The record is not only in our written and oral history, but the DNA history as well. Humanity is well established to have had a heavy hand in the evolution of the common house dog. Do you know where the hundreds of individual breeds came from? Selective breeding. People choose dogs of favorable traits and breed them with other dogs with favorable traits, rinse and repeat until you have the dog you've trying to breed. It's evolution, not rocket science people.

When a person of color and a caucasian reproduce, their child is neither white nor black, but a blend of both parents DNA.. Some bits of the mother and some bits of the father come through in the child; this is evolution in action.

You do realize that by saying evolution doesn't exist, that you're saying life can't exist? Without the ability to take the best bits of both the father's and the mother's DNA and recombine them into a new strand of DNA (which is evolution) there would be no children.. Human or otherwise.

Now, do you understand the difference between spontaneous generation and evolution? Just because evolution exists, it says nothing about the beginning of such a state of procreation.. Evolution says nothing of the beginning, only of the current state of reproduction via shared DNA. So, assuming you believe in God, either evolution exists and God made it, or.. well there is no or.

Evolution is a theory based on observable data, and so far it is our best way of understanding how between generations of life changes take place in anatomy and physiology.. It's not like you can deny that there are no two perfectly similar lifeforms. To say evolution doesn't exist is to say that every life form is exactly the same, isn't it? That because lifeforms cannot change from one type to the next, that they must all be identical? That's not nonsense -at all-.

Say a caucasian woman has two daughters. One of the daughters marries and has a daughter with a caucasian husband, the other daughter marries and has a daughter with a mexican husband. Clearly both granddaughters will look quite a lot dissimilar from eachother? It is impossible for you to explain why that is without the use of the theory of evolution, although I would love to see you try.
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IMO people are reaching the polarity stage now.

If you are a firm believer in a loving God that sacrificed himself on the cross for all the sinful plebs, then you will continue to believe so.

If you are a firm believer in the big bang theory and evolution, you will continue to believe so.

Just an IMO moment 1dunno1
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i for one don't believe in such fairy tales, but have to admit that evolution is a much bigger fairy tale
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Last time I went to the zoo monkeys were still having monkeys. If evolution is true, shouldn't they be spitting out humans by now? LOL how anyone can believe that nonsense is BEYOND me! I mean the shoes we wear on our feet had a designer, someone made them, yet people wanna believe all this here and beyond our view just "happened"?... dumb.
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absolutely! I agree! You sir represent the vast majority of how Creationists think and believe. You nailed it!

No doubt in my mind that monkeys...in a zoo.... should be spitting out humans........?????

Wait, what were you trying to say? It sounded good when I first read it, but now it looks all stupidy.
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IMO people are reaching the polarity stage now.

If you are a firm believer in a loving God that sacrificed himself on the cross for all the sinful plebs, then you will continue to believe so.

If you are a firm believer in the big bang theory and evolution, you will continue to believe so.

Just an IMO moment 1dunno1
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i for one don't believe in such fairy tales, but have to admit that evolution is a much bigger fairy tale
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So we have 2 sides of people both believing that their fairy tales are more real than the others?
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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funny when someone (highly educated in this case) says evolution is a joke, evolutionists counter with "you don't know evolution".
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Did you ever figure out that amphibian thang..?
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or a lung fish, had one for the kids in the classroom.... yup, google axilotal..... :)
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(they eat meat and smelt like crap)... still no explaination for them.....

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What makes you, with your puny attempts at comprehension.. believe that
He, our Creator, didn't deliberately create evolution, for reasons of His own..?

Perhaps, to give us the opportunity to rise above and transcend the slime
of commonality and ignorance.

Catch up...
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This type of binary thinking shows little critical thinking skills. It's just like the lib/con debate. There ARE more than 2 options you know....I'm a born again Christian AND scientist. Master's in Chem Eng. from Columbia, and 7 patents to my name. I believe God used evolution to bring about the diversity of life we enjoy. Man, however, was created in God's image. Exactly how and why God decided we were ready to be infused with a soul is beyond me. Whether he evolved us to a point and did it, or bypassed evolution and made us directly none of us will know in this life.

But to say evolution isn't a real mechanism shows an utter lack of understanding.
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Everybody knows "microevolution"(horrible name) is a real, observed process.

Bacteria can break down existing function in order to survive. Duplicate existing function, alter specificity of an existing enzyme. Tiny changes like that.

What the processes surely can not do is find novel functional sequences and build new biological features.

Here's the deal. 50,000+ generations of E.Coli can not find a single new functional genetic sequence. This generational period translates into about 1 million years of higher verterbrates. In 10x that timespan (~10 million years) we are asked to believe a small deer-like creature morphed into a fully-aquatic whale. It is simply nonsense.

Top scientists of the world agree.


Also, Genesis is not a metaphor. You can't mix the Bible with Evolutionism. It does not work. Real scientific discovery disproves evolution. There is no reason to compromise.
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If you admit that humans have observed, in our tiny blip of an existence, organisms that change their composition...why is it so hard to believe that vast change is possible over the span of a billion lifetimes?
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