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Christianity is PAGAN.

 
YankeeRose555
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Christianity is PAGAN.




The myth of the dying/resurrecting god is as old as the Sun because it represents the Sun. Throughout every culture....Babylonian, Egyptian, Roman...etc,etc.
Even the early church fathers were aware of the similarities between Christianity and Paganism. They surmised that the devil imitated the truth....beforehand. lol


Tertullian confessed that pagans worshipped crucified saviors hanging on a cross.
"Crosses, moreover, we Christians neither venerate nor wish for. You indeed who consecrate gods of wood venerate wooden crosses, perhaps as parts of your gods. For your very standards, as well as your banners, and flags of your camps, what are they but crosses gilded and adorned? Your victorious trophies not only imitate the appearance of a simple cross, but also that of a man affixed to it."
The pagan roots of Christianity are clearly indicated by this confession. Tertullian was a Christian.
The Pagan philosopher and satirist Celsus criticized Christians for trying to pass off the Jesus story as a new revelation when it was actually an inferior imitation of pagan myths. He asks:

"Are these distinctive happenings unique to the Christians-and if so, how are they unique? Or are ours to be accounted myths and theirs believed? What reasons do the Christians give for the distinctiveness of their beliefs? In truth there is nothing at all unusual about what the Christians believe, except that they believe it to the exclusion of more comprehensive truths about God."

The early Christians were painfully aware of such criticisms. How could Pagan myths which predated Christianity by hundreds of years have so much in common with the biography of the one and only savior Jesus? Desperate to come up with an explanation, the Church fathers resorted to one of the most absurd theories ever advanced. From the time of Justin Martyr in the second century onward, they declared that the Devil had plagiarized Christianity by anticipation in order to lead people astray! Knowing that the true Son of God was literally to come and walk the Earth, the Devil had copied the story of his life in advance of it happening and created the myths of Osiris-Dionysus.

The Church father Tertullian writes of the Devil's diabolical mimicry in creating the Mysteries of Mithras:

"The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstances of the Divine Sacraments. He baptizes his believers and promises forgiveness of sins from the Sacred Fount, and thereby initiates them into the religion of Mithras. Thus he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copies certain things of those that be Divine."
“I’m just your average horny little devil.”
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Deuteronomy 4:19 "And when you look up into the sky and see the sun, moon, and stars--all the forces of heaven--don't be seduced into worshiping them. The LORD your God gave them to all the peoples of the earth."

your entire premise was just destroyed with a single bible verse.
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I know it is OP. I know....
I expect this thread to turn into a ChristTard poo-fling festival anyway, good luck :)

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Deuteronomy 4:19 "And when you look up into the sky and see the sun, moon, and stars--all the forces of heaven--don't be seduced into worshiping them. The LORD your God gave them to all the peoples of the earth."

your entire premise was just destroyed with a single bible verse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1880593


Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the entrance of the north gate of the house of the LORD, and I saw women sitting there, mourning the god Tammuz.

Tammuz was a dying/resurrecting 'son of god'. The women weeped because he was crucified.
“I’m just your average horny little devil.”
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I know it is OP. I know....
I expect this thread to turn into a ChristTard poo-fling festival anyway, good luck :)

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I know full well what I got myself into. Thanks!


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I just believe in a God not any religion. I don't understand why people have to fight about it all the time. The fact is they can't all be right that what they believe is the only truth. Such a waste of time.

Somehow I don't think God is any religion and neither am I!
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I just believe in a God not any religion. I don't understand why people have to fight about it all the time. The fact is they can't all be right that what they believe is the only truth. Such a waste of time.

Somehow I don't think God is any religion and neither am I!
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Well, I think they should know where their beliefs actually come from. They plagerized Paganism, then killed them as heretics and witches. Karma has to come back to bite them in the ass for that. Don't you think?
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Passover is quickly approaching. Can't wait until Wednesday night (biblical observed calendar).

Gods' festivals, 5 days off from work. Much needed R&R.
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Definition of GENTILE

1.often capitalized: a person of a non-Jewish nation or of non-Jewish faith; especially: a Christian as distinguished from a Jew

2. heathen, pagan
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I just believe in a God not any religion. I don't understand why people have to fight about it all the time. The fact is they can't all be right that what they believe is the only truth. Such a waste of time.

Somehow I don't think God is any religion and neither am I!
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He isn't, religion is a manmade concept.
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Was Christ a pagan?
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Was Christ a pagan?
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Well, being he personified the myth of the Pagan dieties, I would have to say yes. The whole concept of life after death is a Pagan concept as well. The Jews believed that death was the end. "From dust you came, to dust you shall return." I think Christ's 'good news' was to inform people that the soul is eternal.
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I am no part of any religion.

No other Gods or man made religions come before my Father. I let it all go,and asked Father,my creator to teach me His Wisdom.

To me..it IS the golden calf these religions.


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Was Christ a pagan?
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No, he kept taught Torah, he kept Torah & he upheld the Torah.
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I don't believe the original Christianity was pagan. It became mixed with the pagan religion when Constantine converted.
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Was Christ a pagan?
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No, he kept taught Torah, he kept Torah & he upheld the Torah.
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He broke quite a few of the Judaic laws.
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I am no part of any religion.

No other Gods or man made religions come before my Father. I let it all go,and asked Father,my creator to teach me His Wisdom.

To me..it IS the golden calf these religions.



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I am against religion, as well. I believe that life teaches us what truth is through experience.
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I think Christ's 'good news' was to inform people that the soul is eternal.
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Mat.10:28 ... fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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The whole concept of life after death is a Pagan concept as well. The Jews believed that death was the end.
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29Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. 31But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Matthew 22
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Was Christ a pagan?
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No, he kept taught Torah, he kept Torah & he upheld the Torah.
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He broke quite a few of the Judaic laws.
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Really? He broke the Talmud every chance he got but not the Torah.
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is Saturn a pagan? what about its death cult you pay taxes to? is it pagan? what about your avatar? my penis? is it pagan too?
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Was Christ a pagan?
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Well, being he personified the myth of the Pagan dieties, I would have to say yes.
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Jesus and Beelzebub

14And he was casting out a demon, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the demon was gone out, the dumb man spoke; and the people wondered.

15But some of them said, He casts out demons through Beelzebub the chief of the demons.

16And others, testing him, sought of him a sign from heaven.

17But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falls.

18If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because you say that I cast out demons through Beelzebub.

19And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges.

20But if I with the finger of God cast out demons, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

21When a strong man armed keeps his palace, his goods are in peace:

22But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils. Luke 11
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Was Christ a pagan?
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No, he kept taught Torah, he kept Torah & he upheld the Torah.
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He broke quite a few of the Judaic laws.
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Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms. Luke 24
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The whole concept of life after death is a Pagan concept as well. The Jews believed that death was the end.
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29Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. 31But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Matthew 22
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Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken;for dust you are and to dust you will return.”
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The whole concept of life after death is a Pagan concept as well. The Jews believed that death was the end.
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29Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. 31But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Matthew 22
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken;for dust you are and to dust you will return.”
 Quoting: YankeeRose555


Isaiah 28:17 Your covenant with death will be annulled; your agreement with the grave will not stand. When the overwhelming scourge sweeps by, you will be beaten down by it.

You boast, We have entered into a covenant with death, with the grave we have made an agreement. When an overwhelming scourge sweeps by, it cannot touch us, for we have made a lie our refuge and falsehood our hiding place. So this is what the Sovereign LORD says: See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation; the one who trusts will never be dismayed. I will make justice the measuring line and righteousness the plumb line; hail will sweep away your refuge, the lie, and water will overflow your hiding place.
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agreed
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Using Bible verses to either prove or disprove that Christianity is Pagan is rather moot. The video says quite a bit about the myth of the Sun god. There were many of these sons-of-gods, in nearly every culture on Earth. The fact that Jesus' portrays the EXACT same myth cannot be mere coincidence. This is also why many Pagans were able to convert to Christendom with ease. Only the name had changed. Many of the pagan temples, were re-dedicated to the new solar logos.....that is, after the previous adherents were slaughtered.
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"It is sometimes forgotten that the early Christians associated Jesus with the Sun. Among the church fathers, Cyprian speaks of Christ as Sol Verus, the "true sun," and Ambrose names him Sol Novus Noster, "our new sun". An interesting fact revealed in the old Roman calendars is that on the 25th of December each year they commemorated the new birth of Sol Invictus, the "unconquered sun." These early Christians used many hymns addressed to the Christ-Sun or to the Christos-Spirit, or to the Logos or Word. These terms were taken from the ancient Greek Mysteries; and the composition of these hymns, and the words could easily be construed as hymns to the sun. Which indeed was exactly what they were"

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Yes, but.... you have to realize that the Bible is God's word. Christianity has distorted the word of God like many other religions have in the past. Get it?

So, forget religion. Believe in Jesus and read your bible
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Deuteronomy 4:19 "And when you look up into the sky and see the sun, moon, and stars--all the forces of heaven--don't be seduced into worshiping them. The LORD your God gave them to all the peoples of the earth."

your entire premise was just destroyed with a single bible verse.
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Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the entrance of the north gate of the house of the LORD, and I saw women sitting there, mourning the god Tammuz.

Tammuz was a dying/resurrecting 'son of god'. The women weeped because he was crucified.
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um ok, and? once again some fool assumes correlation equals causation. you probably think Jesus was the bright yellow ball in the sky because sun and son sound the same linguistically too right? there is no correlation of any depth of tammuz and Christ only superficial ones to an ignorant mind.

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