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Christianity is PAGAN.

 
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I love when people use scripture to prove they are right. Take note, the bible was written by men. All religions were created by men. There is no god, there will never be a god. Religion creates a special place people can go in their heads, to make them feel better about death.
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Passover is quickly approaching. Can't wait until Wednesday night (biblical observed calendar).

Gods' festivals, 5 days off from work. Much needed R&R.
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So you are looking forward to celebrating the murder of innocents in the passover?

You don't have any problem with a story that wrongly alleges that GOD sent the angel of death to kill all the firstborn of Egypt?

You don't have a problem with a story where the Pharoah was prepared to let the Israelites leave, and yet GOD allegedly kept hardening Pharoah's heart so Pharoah couldn't let the people leave?

Can you for a second think of all the heartbreak families suffered in this appalling story when their innocent children were murdered?

But the murder didn't stop with children. It was ALL the firstborn, or was it?

Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.

BUT wait the ANGEL of Death got it wrong. The angel only killed the fiorstborn Egytians and Cattle? Not all beasts?

Exodus 12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the Lord smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

How could a loving GOD come up with such a terrible event?

Perhaps people should read the story in detail, noting how GOD allegedly kept hardening Pharaoah's heart, and how GOD allegedly killed all the innocents based on that heart hardening.

How can anyone or any group of people believe and celebrate this offensive story?

Would we be offended if some crazies had a meal to celebrate the holocaust? Of course we would it would be OUTRAGEOUS!

WAKE UP!

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"It is sometimes forgotten that the early Christians associated Jesus with the Sun. Among the church fathers, Cyprian speaks of Christ as Sol Verus, the "true sun," and Ambrose names him Sol Novus Noster, "our new sun". An interesting fact revealed in the old Roman calendars is that on the 25th of December each year they commemorated the new birth of Sol Invictus, the "unconquered sun." These early Christians used many hymns addressed to the Christ-Sun or to the Christos-Spirit, or to the Logos or Word. These terms were taken from the ancient Greek Mysteries; and the composition of these hymns, and the words could easily be construed as hymns to the sun. Which indeed was exactly what they were"

sun

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 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Deuteronomy 4:19 "And when you look up into the sky and see the sun, moon, and stars--all the forces of heaven--don't be seduced into worshiping them. The LORD your God gave them to all the peoples of the earth."

your entire premise was just destroyed with a single bible verse.
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Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the entrance of the north gate of the house of the LORD, and I saw women sitting there, mourning the god Tammuz.

Tammuz was a dying/resurrecting 'son of god'. The women weeped because he was crucified.
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um ok, and? once again some fool assumes correlation equals causation. you probably think Jesus was the bright yellow ball in the sky because sun and son sound the same linguistically too right? there is no correlation of any depth of tammuz and Christ only superficial ones to an ignorant mind.
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lol case and point
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"It is sometimes forgotten that the early Christians associated Jesus with the Sun. Among the church fathers, Cyprian speaks of Christ as Sol Verus, the "true sun," and Ambrose names him Sol Novus Noster, "our new sun". An interesting fact revealed in the old Roman calendars is that on the 25th of December each year they commemorated the new birth of Sol Invictus, the "unconquered sun." These early Christians used many hymns addressed to the Christ-Sun or to the Christos-Spirit, or to the Logos or Word. These terms were taken from the ancient Greek Mysteries; and the composition of these hymns, and the words could easily be construed as hymns to the sun. Which indeed was exactly what they were"

sun

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Indeed, and don't forget the SUNRISE service they have on Easter(Pagan holiday) morning.
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I love when people use scripture to prove they are right.
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The Bible proves who is right among Christians. Nothing for atheists.
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I love when people use scripture to prove they are right.
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The Bible proves who is right among Christians. Nothing for atheists.
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They can't even get that right. I love watching the poo-slinging fights over the timing of the rapture the most.
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I love watching the pace at which prophecy is being fulfilled.
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"19And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges.
20But if I with the finger of God cast out demons, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
21When a strong man armed keeps his palace, his goods are in peace:
22But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils. Luke 11"
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I love when people use scripture to prove they are right. Take note, the bible was written by men. All religions were created by men. There is no god, there will never be a god. Religion creates a special place people can go in their heads, to make them feel better about death.
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Your faith and lack of Faith astounds me.
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I love watching the pace at which prophecy is being fulfilled.
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Passover is quickly approaching. Can't wait until Wednesday night (biblical observed calendar).

Gods' festivals, 5 days off from work. Much needed R&R.
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So you are looking forward to celebrating the murder of innocents in the passover?

You don't have any problem with a story that wrongly alleges that GOD sent the angel of death to kill all the firstborn of Egypt?

You don't have a problem with a story where the Pharoah was prepared to let the Israelites leave, and yet GOD allegedly kept hardening Pharoah's heart so Pharoah couldn't let the people leave?

Can you for a second think of all the heartbreak families suffered in this appalling story when their innocent children were murdered?

But the murder didn't stop with children. It was ALL the firstborn, or was it?

Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.

BUT wait the ANGEL of Death got it wrong. The angel only killed the fiorstborn Egytians and Cattle? Not all beasts?

Exodus 12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the Lord smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

How could a loving GOD come up with such a terrible event?

Perhaps people should read the story in detail, noting how GOD allegedly kept hardening Pharaoah's heart, and how GOD allegedly killed all the innocents based on that heart hardening.

How can anyone or any group of people believe and celebrate this offensive story?

Would we be offended if some crazies had a meal to celebrate the holocaust? Of course we would it would be OUTRAGEOUS!

WAKE UP!

tantrum
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What about the Israelites leaving slavery for freedom?

What about stiff hearted pharoah being humbled when he thinks he is above God?

What about the Israelites being shown who is YHVH at Mt. Sinai?

These are good things.
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I love watching the pace at which prophecy is being fulfilled.
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Though, in truth, it is sweet to the taste and bitter in my belly.

Peace,
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I love when people use scripture to prove they are right.
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The Bible proves who is right among Christians. Nothing for atheists.
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I love when I turn my back and a whole bunch of posts go up. lol
Seriously, if there was a god, we would all be given the information that there was. Not from a book written by humans. God didn't create Man. Man created god.
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I love when people use scripture to prove they are right.
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The Bible proves who is right among Christians. Nothing for atheists.
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I love when I turn my back and a whole bunch of posts go up. lol
Seriously, if there was a god, we would all be given the information that there was. Not from a book written by humans. God didn't create Man. Man created god.
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Says who, a man? Not credible enough for my standards.
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I love watching the pace at which prophecy is being fulfilled.
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happycat
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You mean the fact that people would someday wise up to the lie?
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I love watching the pace at which prophecy is being fulfilled.
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:happycat:
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You mean the fact that people would someday wise up to the lie?
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Perhaps...

What does "mirthra" teach regarding future events? Lol...

Peace,
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Interesting
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I am terribly sorry, but your information is either totally incorrect or interpreted incorrectly, and that is an extremely bad translation of that extract from Tertullian's Apologia XVI, I think that loon Acharya S. used the same crappy translation.
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lol case and point
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Light of the world?
Walks on water?
Dies for 3 days before rising again?

What else does all of these things? Yes, the SUN...

How did the cultures of the past tell stories and spread messages?They utilized anthropomorphism:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anthropomorphism or personification is any attribution of human characteristics (or characteristics assumed to belong only to humans) to other animals, non-living things, phenomena, material states, objects or abstract concepts, such as organizations, governments, spirits or deities

They personified planets & stars... It didn't end with the Greeks & Romans......

Why do you think there were exactly 12 disciples and why the number 12 was associated with prior 'Gods' and savior mythos? What else are there twelve of?

hmm

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I love when people use scripture to prove they are right.
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The Bible proves who is right among Christians. Nothing for atheists.
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I love when I turn my back and a whole bunch of posts go up. lol
Seriously, if there was a god, we would all be given the information that there was. Not from a book written by humans. God didn't create Man. Man created god.
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Would you believe if God Himself came and appeared to you? Or would you think it was a hallucination?
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lol case and point
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Light of the world?
Walks on water?
Dies for 3 days before rising again?

What else does all of these things? Yes, the SUN...

How did the cultures of the past tell stories and spread messages?They utilized anthropomorphism:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anthropomorphism or personification is any attribution of human characteristics (or characteristics assumed to belong only to humans) to other animals, non-living things, phenomena, material states, objects or abstract concepts, such as organizations, governments, spirits or deities

They personified planets & stars... It didn't end with the Greeks & Romans......

Why do you think there were exactly 12 disciples and why the number 12 was associated with prior 'Gods' and savior mythos? What else are there twelve of?

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


OK believe in your planets. LOL
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lol case and point
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Light of the world?
Walks on water?
Dies for 3 days before rising again?

What else does all of these things? Yes, the SUN...

How did the cultures of the past tell stories and spread messages?They utilized anthropomorphism:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anthropomorphism or personification is any attribution of human characteristics (or characteristics assumed to belong only to humans) to other animals, non-living things, phenomena, material states, objects or abstract concepts, such as organizations, governments, spirits or deities

They personified planets & stars... It didn't end with the Greeks & Romans......

Why do you think there were exactly 12 disciples and why the number 12 was associated with prior 'Gods' and savior mythos? What else are there twelve of?

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


When does the Sun not rise for three days?

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
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I love when people use scripture to prove they are right.
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The Bible proves who is right among Christians. Nothing for atheists.
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I love when I turn my back and a whole bunch of posts go up. lol
Seriously, if there was a god, we would all be given the information that there was. Not from a book written by humans. God didn't create Man. Man created god.
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Would you believe if God Himself came and appeared to you? Or would you think it was a hallucination?
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I know your beliefs are b.s. I was raised a Christian and was one for 22 years before I started questioning.
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lol case and point
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Light of the world?
Walks on water?
Dies for 3 days before rising again?

What else does all of these things? Yes, the SUN...

How did the cultures of the past tell stories and spread messages?They utilized anthropomorphism:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anthropomorphism or personification is any attribution of human characteristics (or characteristics assumed to belong only to humans) to other animals, non-living things, phenomena, material states, objects or abstract concepts, such as organizations, governments, spirits or deities

They personified planets & stars... It didn't end with the Greeks & Romans......

Why do you think there were exactly 12 disciples and why the number 12 was associated with prior 'Gods' and savior mythos? What else are there twelve of?

hmm
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OK believe in your planets. LOL
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You mean just like the Egyptians and Greeks and Romans did who founded the civilization upon which christianity emerged from?

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lol case and point
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Light of the world?
Walks on water?
Dies for 3 days before rising again?

What else does all of these things? Yes, the SUN...

How did the cultures of the past tell stories and spread messages?They utilized anthropomorphism:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anthropomorphism or personification is any attribution of human characteristics (or characteristics assumed to belong only to humans) to other animals, non-living things, phenomena, material states, objects or abstract concepts, such as organizations, governments, spirits or deities

They personified planets & stars... It didn't end with the Greeks & Romans......

Why do you think there were exactly 12 disciples and why the number 12 was associated with prior 'Gods' and savior mythos? What else are there twelve of?

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


OK believe in your planets. LOL
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You mean just like the Egyptians and Greeks and Romans did who founded the civilization upon which christianity emerged from?

1dunno1
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Dude, no one cares about cults. Search for truth. Which only will set you free, according Jesus.
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lol case and point
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Light of the world?
Walks on water?
Dies for 3 days before rising again?

What else does all of these things? Yes, the SUN...

How did the cultures of the past tell stories and spread messages?They utilized anthropomorphism:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anthropomorphism or personification is any attribution of human characteristics (or characteristics assumed to belong only to humans) to other animals, non-living things, phenomena, material states, objects or abstract concepts, such as organizations, governments, spirits or deities

They personified planets & stars... It didn't end with the Greeks & Romans......

Why do you think there were exactly 12 disciples and why the number 12 was associated with prior 'Gods' and savior mythos? What else are there twelve of?

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


When does the Sun not rise for three days?

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
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The Winter Solstice.... The sun dips low and appears to stop moving in the sky and this was associated with it descending into the 'grave' upon which after 3 days it would rise and resume it's journey through the 'heavens' (the skies).

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lol case and point
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Light of the world?
Walks on water?
Dies for 3 days before rising again?

What else does all of these things? Yes, the SUN...

How did the cultures of the past tell stories and spread messages?They utilized anthropomorphism:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anthropomorphism or personification is any attribution of human characteristics (or characteristics assumed to belong only to humans) to other animals, non-living things, phenomena, material states, objects or abstract concepts, such as organizations, governments, spirits or deities

They personified planets & stars... It didn't end with the Greeks & Romans......

Why do you think there were exactly 12 disciples and why the number 12 was associated with prior 'Gods' and savior mythos? What else are there twelve of?

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


When does the Sun not rise for three days?

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36805160


The winter solstice. Sun doesn't start to rise again for three days, From Dec. 22 - Dec. 25.

Thus, the sun 'rises' on Dec. 25th.

Mitra worship/Christianity...same shit, different name.
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The Bible proves who is right among Christians. Nothing for atheists.
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I love when I turn my back and a whole bunch of posts go up. lol
Seriously, if there was a god, we would all be given the information that there was. Not from a book written by humans. God didn't create Man. Man created god.
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Would you believe if God Himself came and appeared to you? Or would you think it was a hallucination?
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I know your beliefs are b.s. I was raised a Christian and was one for 22 years before I started questioning.
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Obviously you did not use very good sources when researching the answers for your questions, or you would not have fallen for such obvious bullshit.

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