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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34954226 United Kingdom 03/27/2013 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quite a few people see the benefit of being unplugged from this grid, which demands higher and higher growth ... We are all sruck in the thicket of laws , regulations and planning rules which run sideways to the grain of 'saving resources/being green). All the existing ways of this civilization are impossible to stop because profit is king. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2957590 United States 03/27/2013 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all rubbish.....no marked sea level rises...this is all based on a fantasy "what if"....losses of land presently is from EROSION! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36674888 United States 03/27/2013 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abrupt climate change just around the corner peeps. Looks like the whole Arctic ice sheet is on the move and breaking up early: Quoting: Climate Change Watcher 844118 March 22, 2013 video of Arctic ice breaking, cracks and on the move: [link to youtu.be] Paul Beckwith, climatologist studying abrupt climate change: "For the record; I do not think that any sea ice will survive this summer. An event unprecedented in human history is today, this very moment, transpiring in the Arctic Ocean. The cracks in the sea ice that I reported on my Sierra Club Canada blog and elsewhere over the last several days have spread and at this moment the entire sea ice sheet (or about 99% of it) covering the Arctic Ocean is on the move. Clockwise. The ice is thin, and slushy, and breaking apart." Beckwith goes on to say, "This is abrupt climate change in real-time. Humans have benefited greatly from a stable climate for the last 11,000 years or roughly 400 generations. Not any more. We now face an angry climate. One that we have poked in the eye with our fossil fuel stick and awakened. And now we must deal with the consequences. We must set aside our differences and prepare for what we can no longer avoid. And that is massive disruption to our civilizations." (from Part-time professor and climatologist Paul Beckwith) Record Methane in Arctic early March 2013: "Methane levels for this period are at record highs in the Barents and Norwegian Seas, i.e. the highest levels ever recorded by IASI, which is is short for Infrared Atmospheric Sounding Interferometer, a Fourier transform spectrometer on board the European EUMETSAT Metop satellite that has supplied data since 2007." [link to arctic-news.blogspot.co.uk] "This has the potential to release vast quantities of methane trapped by ice below the surface - billions of tonnes of methane. World-wide, peat bogs store at least two trillion tons of CO2. This is equivalent to a century of emissions from fossil fuels." [link to www.examiner.com] This my friend, is the REAL REASON DHS ordered all those bullets. We are living on our own self-induced asteroid. Don't need to worry about what's incoming but rather what we are currently standing on. Those of us in the mountains could actually use a little warmer weather, and it certainly doesn't bother us to see the east and west coasts super heat and begin to kill off millions in the next few months. As for methane.. pffft ..I grew up cattle ranches so, big woop. |
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samanthasunflower User ID: 29507233 United States 03/27/2013 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | March 22, 2013 video of Arctic ice breaking, cracks and on the move Quoting: Climate Change Watcher 844118 It's negative 20 degrees Celsius there right now, ice is not melting. Winds move the ice around during the winter, which helps to create thicker ice. This is a normal event that has happened every winter since the Arctic became covered in ice. Warmist have to freak out about this, since TOTAL SEA ICE IS CURRENTLY ABOVE AVERAGE!!! We are headed into an ice age and they are still screaming global warming. At this point, there is really no excuse for their lies, but they keep it up so that they can soak up the last $$$$$. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 03/27/2013 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Anchorage, I have smelled methane strongly in the heavy wind three times this year. Also, I picked someone up from Barrow this week that told me the Ice moved out for three days and they could see blue water and waves in the Arctic. This hasn't happened since humans have lived there in March. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36957946 Wrong,,,,Methane has no odor yeah, you're right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36835398 Canada 03/27/2013 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abrupt climate change just around the corner peeps. Looks like the whole Arctic ice sheet is on the move and breaking up early: Quoting: Climate Change Watcher 844118 March 22, 2013 video of Arctic ice breaking, cracks and on the move: [link to youtu.be] Paul Beckwith, climatologist studying abrupt climate change: "For the record; I do not think that any sea ice will survive this summer. An event unprecedented in human history is today, this very moment, transpiring in the Arctic Ocean. The cracks in the sea ice that I reported on my Sierra Club Canada blog and elsewhere over the last several days have spread and at this moment the entire sea ice sheet (or about 99% of it) covering the Arctic Ocean is on the move. Clockwise. The ice is thin, and slushy, and breaking apart." Beckwith goes on to say, "This is abrupt climate change in real-time. Humans have benefited greatly from a stable climate for the last 11,000 years or roughly 400 generations. Not any more. We now face an angry climate. One that we have poked in the eye with our fossil fuel stick and awakened. And now we must deal with the consequences. We must set aside our differences and prepare for what we can no longer avoid. And that is massive disruption to our civilizations." (from Part-time professor and climatologist Paul Beckwith) Record Methane in Arctic early March 2013: "Methane levels for this period are at record highs in the Barents and Norwegian Seas, i.e. the highest levels ever recorded by IASI, which is is short for Infrared Atmospheric Sounding Interferometer, a Fourier transform spectrometer on board the European EUMETSAT Metop satellite that has supplied data since 2007." [link to arctic-news.blogspot.co.uk] "This has the potential to release vast quantities of methane trapped by ice below the surface - billions of tonnes of methane. World-wide, peat bogs store at least two trillion tons of CO2. This is equivalent to a century of emissions from fossil fuels." [link to www.examiner.com] This my friend, is the REAL REASON DHS ordered all those bullets. We are living on our own self-induced asteroid. Don't need to worry about what's incoming but rather what we are currently standing on. I red a few pages (it keeps growing) before I ask this question. How come no one ever wonders about the wandering pole as one reason the poles are melting. The earth's axis didn't change. so the earth could be turning south as the earth adjusts to the new pole positions(which has sped up since it started being recorded). Would that not change wind and ocean and weather patterns? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27235266 United States 03/27/2013 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to science, this planet has been around for 4 billion years. In that time, earth has experienced several climate shifts. Does it make the slightest sense at all that 150 years of oil and coal burning will end life on the planet as we know it? What utter horseshit. Just like gun regulation, it's another form of manipulation and control. Give up your freedoms for the greater good. Give up your right to self defense. Give up your right to move freely about in your own car. Ride an electric bus or a fucking bicycle. Well fuck that. These assholes can all go take a flying fucking dive into a ravine of rusty fence posts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25989455 ^ this Well were pumping something like 10 billion tons of co2 into the atmosphere each year. But even that takes quite a while to raise the levels. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36920273 United Kingdom 03/27/2013 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think Earth has shifted orbit and this is what is causing the variations. This would explain something that the scientists hide in plain sight, the fact that there was greenery/forests etc in areas that are currently covered in Ice. Why is Greenland called Green Land? I think AA's thread will come to fruition personally and the Hopi/Mayans were/are right. What with comet ISON coming (which was found on 21st December 2012 on the Winter Solstice....hmm......) and the fact that this has virtually appeared from nowhere....then throw in a few meteors landing recently.....hmmm...... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36813032 United States 03/27/2013 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It boggles the mind that the current methane crisis (because that's what it is) gets so little attention by ANYONE. It's not a joke. People don't seem to realize that a lot of shit going on in the oceans right now (mass die offs and bizarre animal behavior) are tied directly to the methane releases that are going on with increasing frequency. Not to mention the alarming rate in which the ice sheets are disintegrating and releasing methane into the atmosphere. And this is not something that is going to slow - we've reached a tipping point and it is just going to get worse until there's no one left to give a shit... Quoting: Em18966 Most people don't give a shit about anything but their TV shows and new cars and impressing the neighbors. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2712120 United States 03/27/2013 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having lived through multiple human ending events I'm a bit skeptical. The Gulf spill was going to cause a huge die off, then Fukushima was going to kill millions, and now methane is the straw that breaks the camels back. I'm a little jaded when it comes to doom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36807475 Theory is that large releases of methane gas caused prior extinctions.....this is the real deal. But how does it do that? I thought methane would essentially dissipate once it reached the atmosphere? Isn't it lighter than air, so it floats away? Not trying to be smart (OR dumb) here, I simply do not understand what impact all this methane release will do to our air, water, land, etc. Please explain, OP. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2712120 United States 03/27/2013 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think Earth has shifted orbit and this is what is causing the variations. This would explain something that the scientists hide in plain sight, the fact that there was greenery/forests etc in areas that are currently covered in Ice. Why is Greenland called Green Land? I think AA's thread will come to fruition personally and the Hopi/Mayans were/are right. What with comet ISON coming (which was found on 21st December 2012 on the Winter Solstice....hmm......) and the fact that this has virtually appeared from nowhere....then throw in a few meteors landing recently.....hmmm...... Agree about the earth axis. Even my husband noticed it last night, on the full moon. He never, ever, EVER notices anything going on in the "real world" - he's a total couch potato. But even HE noticed last night. He said, "Look at 'the man in the moon,' Isn't he supposed to be tilting THAT way, not this way? Why is his face moved?" I don't totally get it, either, but we both do know that we've never seen the moon looking like it looks nowadays. It IS "tilted" differently. And DON'T tell me it's the season, or equinox, or some other crap. I've lived a loooong time, and I've looked at the moon lots of times before, but I NEVER remember seeing a crescent moon that looked like a smiley face! The crescent phase of the moon has always been dark to the side, NOT the top half, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2712120 United States 03/27/2013 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | March 22, 2013 video of Arctic ice breaking, cracks and on the move Quoting: Climate Change Watcher 844118 It's negative 20 degrees Celsius there right now, ice is not melting. Winds move the ice around during the winter, which helps to create thicker ice. This is a normal event that has happened every winter since the Arctic became covered in ice. Warmist have to freak out about this, since TOTAL SEA ICE IS CURRENTLY ABOVE AVERAGE!!! We are headed into an ice age and they are still screaming global warming. At this point, there is really no excuse for their lies, but they keep it up so that they can soak up the last $$$$$. I tend to agree with you that we are headed into an ice age event, not global warming, BUT I also think the earth might have tilted, and that our poles are moved, somehow. That would mean the ice would move from where it currently is to places that normally do not get feet upon feet of ice - perma/frost. And places that have ice will see what we are seeing - melting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36920273 United Kingdom 03/27/2013 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think Earth has shifted orbit and this is what is causing the variations. This would explain something that the scientists hide in plain sight, the fact that there was greenery/forests etc in areas that are currently covered in Ice. Why is Greenland called Green Land? I think AA's thread will come to fruition personally and the Hopi/Mayans were/are right. What with comet ISON coming (which was found on 21st December 2012 on the Winter Solstice....hmm......) and the fact that this has virtually appeared from nowhere....then throw in a few meteors landing recently.....hmmm...... Agree about the earth axis. Even my husband noticed it last night, on the full moon. He never, ever, EVER notices anything going on in the "real world" - he's a total couch potato. But even HE noticed last night. He said, "Look at 'the man in the moon,' Isn't he supposed to be tilting THAT way, not this way? Why is his face moved?" I don't totally get it, either, but we both do know that we've never seen the moon looking like it looks nowadays. It IS "tilted" differently. And DON'T tell me it's the season, or equinox, or some other crap. I've lived a loooong time, and I've looked at the moon lots of times before, but I NEVER remember seeing a crescent moon that looked like a smiley face! The crescent phase of the moon has always been dark to the side, NOT the top half, etc. exactly, we have stopped believing our own eyes. Most people never look up anyway. People have stopped asking questions and understanding their natural environment in the chase of 'stuff'. They are too obsessed with their own lives to see what's happening right in front of them.....'hidden in plain sight' |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36608394 United States 03/27/2013 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abrupt climate change just around the corner peeps. Looks like the whole Arctic ice sheet is on the move and breaking up early: Quoting: Climate Change Watcher 844118 March 22, 2013 video of Arctic ice breaking, cracks and on the move: [link to youtu.be] Paul Beckwith, climatologist studying abrupt climate change: "For the record; I do not think that any sea ice will survive this summer. An event unprecedented in human history is today, this very moment, transpiring in the Arctic Ocean. The cracks in the sea ice that I reported on my Sierra Club Canada blog and elsewhere over the last several days have spread and at this moment the entire sea ice sheet (or about 99% of it) covering the Arctic Ocean is on the move. Clockwise. The ice is thin, and slushy, and breaking apart." Beckwith goes on to say, "This is abrupt climate change in real-time. Humans have benefited greatly from a stable climate for the last 11,000 years or roughly 400 generations. Not any more. We now face an angry climate. One that we have poked in the eye with our fossil fuel stick and awakened. And now we must deal with the consequences. We must set aside our differences and prepare for what we can no longer avoid. And that is massive disruption to our civilizations." (from Part-time professor and climatologist Paul Beckwith) Record Methane in Arctic early March 2013: "Methane levels for this period are at record highs in the Barents and Norwegian Seas, i.e. the highest levels ever recorded by IASI, which is is short for Infrared Atmospheric Sounding Interferometer, a Fourier transform spectrometer on board the European EUMETSAT Metop satellite that has supplied data since 2007." [link to arctic-news.blogspot.co.uk] "This has the potential to release vast quantities of methane trapped by ice below the surface - billions of tonnes of methane. World-wide, peat bogs store at least two trillion tons of CO2. This is equivalent to a century of emissions from fossil fuels." [link to www.examiner.com] This my friend, is the REAL REASON DHS ordered all those bullets. We are living on our own self-induced asteroid. Don't need to worry about what's incoming but rather what we are currently standing on. tho, the elite will be unnerground w hi-tek even if tru |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 788508 Spain 03/27/2013 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | March 22, 2013 video of Arctic ice breaking, cracks and on the move Quoting: Climate Change Watcher 844118 It's negative 20 degrees Celsius there right now, ice is not melting. Winds move the ice around during the winter, which helps to create thicker ice. This is a normal event that has happened every winter since the Arctic became covered in ice. Warmist have to freak out about this, since TOTAL SEA ICE IS CURRENTLY ABOVE AVERAGE!!! We are headed into an ice age and they are still screaming global warming. At this point, there is really no excuse for their lies, but they keep it up so that they can soak up the last $$$$$. I tend to agree with you that we are headed into an ice age event, not global warming, BUT I also think the earth might have tilted, and that our poles are moved, somehow. That would mean the ice would move from where it currently is to places that normally do not get feet upon feet of ice - perma/frost. And places that have ice will see what we are seeing - melting. Climate change should be "climate chaos" instead. people have this mistrude understanding that its just going to keep getting hotter and hotter. well. no. as the earth warms it also rains more in some places and others more drought, than vice versus, than more hurricanes more tornandos where there were none before, climate insanity takes place..but in the end after the period of "warming" comes a ice age. for example, in the middle ages, when there was mini ice age, there was prior to that a "warming period"..and although theses are natural cycles of the earth, warming and then cooling, warming and then cooling so on and so forth, we've made the situation more unpredictable, encouraged it along faster, resulting in noone knowing what the fuck is going to happen next. |
ehecatl User ID: 36965557 Mexico 03/27/2013 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious question OP. What are we supposed to do about this? In a perfect world what is the rational course of action here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36807475 "We", should do nothing (and can do nothing), regardless of the facts, and the conjecture of what are the causes. (because it could also be due to heating of the ocean crust due to non human geologic changes) Those who seriously think they can do something are psychopaths. Environmental damage is done by the industrial living lifestyle, which is perpetuated by psychopaths. For average people to assume they can "do" anything about this besides just "watch" the news, is a total invitation to the NWO mind control hive mind, and deception. I do not presume to tell psychopaths what to do or not to do either. Each person has their particular karma to live out, and if they wish to kill me personally, so be it. I don't care. "I", do my best to live in accord with the great Spirit and nature, and that is correct. Regardless of the facts, people are way too eager to locate their spirit outside of themselves, and hand themselves over to the hive mind, which is devoid or real thought. I know this will seem "offensive" to many, but it is my 2 cents. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 03/27/2013 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36652508 OMG winter is over and you're not going to believe this but ice is melting!!... And "human history" is how many years? Compared to the Earth's climate history? Guess what, it's been warmer than this before, and recently too. It's negative 20 degrees Celsius there right now, ice is not melting. Winds move the ice around during the winter, which helps to create thicker ice. This is a normal event that has happened every winter since the Arctic became covered in ice. Warmist have to freak out about this, since TOTAL SEA ICE IS CURRENTLY ABOVE AVERAGE!!! We are headed into an ice age and they are still screaming global warming. At this point, there is really no excuse for their lies, but they keep it up so that they can soak up the last $$$$$. I tend to agree with you that we are headed into an ice age event, not global warming, BUT I also think the earth might have tilted, and that our poles are moved, somehow. That would mean the ice would move from where it currently is to places that normally do not get feet upon feet of ice - perma/frost. And places that have ice will see what we are seeing - melting. Climate change should be "climate chaos" instead. people have this mistrude understanding that its just going to keep getting hotter and hotter. well. no. as the earth warms it also rains more in some places and others more drought, than vice versus, than more hurricanes more tornandos where there were none before, climate insanity takes place..but in the end after the period of "warming" comes a ice age. for example, in the middle ages, when there was mini ice age, there was prior to that a "warming period"..and although theses are natural cycles of the earth, warming and then cooling, warming and then cooling so on and so forth, we've made the situation more unpredictable, encouraged it along faster, resulting in noone knowing what the fuck is going to happen next. exactly |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3645108 United States 03/27/2013 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think Earth has shifted orbit and this is what is causing the variations. This would explain something that the scientists hide in plain sight, the fact that there was greenery/forests etc in areas that are currently covered in Ice. Why is Greenland called Green Land? I think AA's thread will come to fruition personally and the Hopi/Mayans were/are right. What with comet ISON coming (which was found on 21st December 2012 on the Winter Solstice....hmm......) and the fact that this has virtually appeared from nowhere....then throw in a few meteors landing recently.....hmmm...... Agree about the earth axis. Even my husband noticed it last night, on the full moon. He never, ever, EVER notices anything going on in the "real world" - he's a total couch potato. But even HE noticed last night. He said, "Look at 'the man in the moon,' Isn't he supposed to be tilting THAT way, not this way? Why is his face moved?" I don't totally get it, either, but we both do know that we've never seen the moon looking like it looks nowadays. It IS "tilted" differently. And DON'T tell me it's the season, or equinox, or some other crap. I've lived a loooong time, and I've looked at the moon lots of times before, but I NEVER remember seeing a crescent moon that looked like a smiley face! The crescent phase of the moon has always been dark to the side, NOT the top half, etc. exactly, we have stopped believing our own eyes. Most people never look up anyway. People have stopped asking questions and understanding their natural environment in the chase of 'stuff'. They are too obsessed with their own lives to see what's happening right in front of them.....'hidden in plain sight' I think the phrase "Eyes Wide Shut" fits this perfectly :). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1065356 United States 03/27/2013 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abrupt climate change just around the corner peeps. Looks like the whole Arctic ice sheet is on the move and breaking up early: Quoting: Climate Change Watcher 844118 March 22, 2013 video of Arctic ice breaking, cracks and on the move: [link to youtu.be] Paul Beckwith, climatologist studying abrupt climate change: "For the record; I do not think that any sea ice will survive this summer. An event unprecedented in human history is today, this very moment, transpiring in the Arctic Ocean. The cracks in the sea ice that I reported on my Sierra Club Canada blog and elsewhere over the last several days have spread and at this moment the entire sea ice sheet (or about 99% of it) covering the Arctic Ocean is on the move. Clockwise. The ice is thin, and slushy, and breaking apart." Beckwith goes on to say, "This is abrupt climate change in real-time. Humans have benefited greatly from a stable climate for the last 11,000 years or roughly 400 generations. Not any more. We now face an angry climate. One that we have poked in the eye with our fossil fuel stick and awakened. And now we must deal with the consequences. We must set aside our differences and prepare for what we can no longer avoid. And that is massive disruption to our civilizations." (from Part-time professor and climatologist Paul Beckwith) Record Methane in Arctic early March 2013: "Methane levels for this period are at record highs in the Barents and Norwegian Seas, i.e. the highest levels ever recorded by IASI, which is is short for Infrared Atmospheric Sounding Interferometer, a Fourier transform spectrometer on board the European EUMETSAT Metop satellite that has supplied data since 2007." [link to arctic-news.blogspot.co.uk] "This has the potential to release vast quantities of methane trapped by ice below the surface - billions of tonnes of methane. World-wide, peat bogs store at least two trillion tons of CO2. This is equivalent to a century of emissions from fossil fuels." [link to www.examiner.com] This my friend, is the REAL REASON DHS ordered all those bullets. We are living on our own self-induced asteroid. Don't need to worry about what's incoming but rather what we are currently standing on. and for good measure, coz there just hasnt been enough of these in this thread Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34765812 and for good measure, coz there just hasnt been enough of these in this thread Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34765812 I see your and I raise you |