"An event unprecedented in human history is today" - Methane gas at record highs

The Sea Ice at the South Pole is growing. How can you argue that?

[link to www.uni-koeln.de] There are 15-20 weather stations in N. Canada that have temps 50 degrees f above surrounding stations. It has always been this way. That explains the giant red contour(heat pulse in N. Canada) around that area. They are lying about G.W., and don't bother hiding it. Does the truth matter at all! Do you want more taxation to combat a lie? OP

Last Edited by Felixtheslave on 03/27/2013 03:41 PM

If you want to know the real reason the climate is changing, watch the movies "They Live" or "The Arrival". If you want to live on another planet, it's not feasible to wear spacesuits or live in domes forever. If I wanted to live on another planet, I would terraform it, and hide my presence from the current inhabitants as much as possible. Always remember. If you have something, somebody else always wants what you have.

...come to think of it, I have been letting off a lot more silent-but-deadlies lately...

Who says? The scientists, considering all the data, suggest that we are looking at the reverse in Antartica, ice compromise...I posted a link above which quite clearly says that when discussing Dunedin city councils preparations. The Arctic is in a precarious position as well, going by the science of the reasonable man which is what I always consider, grant funding aside. After all, if a scientist is good enough to consider for other areas of my life, why not climate. If you think otherwise, feel free to avail yourself of a life free of the benefits of science.

Therefore, in totality, the scientists are arguing that as this progresses, we will have increased volatility as the system fractally prepares for a range change. Hanson suggests that volatilty may in fact see extremes of cold and heat, ice, snow and precipitation in the transition to new ranges.

So this tells me nothing other than the dreaded for volatility may be emerging.

Let's see, a planet being bombarded with meteors, and at the same time methane gas levels at record high levels. What could possibly go wrong?

Please watch the video:
Thread: Most Important Video of 2013

I've never been a proponent of the global warming theory mostly because of all the lies they kept throwing around. Methane release is the real deal though. It's no bull and it's well understood, it's a well known fact that it's quick release would be a game over event for us in short order. It's happened before and was the cause of a major planetary extinction event. The only question is has it started already and how fast is it releasing.

The answer to that based on new testing this year is yes, and it's accelerating. This is unfortunately real and an issue that we must face and hopefully still have time to turn around. Our fossil fuels are a factor in this but only a very tiny one. The real problem is geoengineering that has been going on for the last 50+ years, we are seeing the culmination of it's use. That's right, the chem trails that don't exist are the primary cause of what is happening. Did you notice the sun is intense lately? That is because they have destroyed the ozone layer with the spraying (chemtrails).

If the Methane starts releasing too fast it's game over for the human race. The release has already started speeding up and has been verified with testing, we are in serious trouble now.

There are over 10,000 Tons of "sequestered" methane in the Northern Siberia deposit alone. It only takes 60 tons to release and that is enough to start the irreversible process and end the human race in a 3-5 year time frame.

This is the kind of doom we do not want.

There are a lot of scientists who discredit the global warming movement for many good reasons. None of those scientists disagree about the effects of methane release though, they do agree that it would be a game changing event (read: dirtnap). The only new information is that it is happening now and accelerating.

So please don't lump sequestered methane release with the regular global warming group. Methane release is a result of the planet heating up for any reason. We don't want the methane to release, there is no going back for us if we do.

Which is why you need to read Hanson on the Venusian effect. It is a clear, concise article on google and makes a very persuasive case for the feedback mechanism that are kicked into touch leading to tipping points in for example, methane dischage, when considering human emissions (he also examines clouds and cloud cover in this discussion piece.)

It is a reasonable article and also addresses that other nut, the suns emissions and its place in this equation.

This documentary is from the 70s, they knew what was coming and how to fix it the right way, as to keep the earth in the right climate zone...but instead chemtrails were a last ditch effort to fix what they broke

Who says? The scientists...

Why yes, scientists. Pick a group. Did you quote James Hansen? If so you, and he, can be summarily dismissed. Climate-gate.

Cryosphere Today – University of Illinois – Polar Research Group
climate4you.com – Ole Humlum – Professor, University of Oslo Department of Geosciences
National Centers for Environmental Prediction (NCEP) Marine Modeling and Analysis Branch
National Snow & Ice Data Center
Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) – International Arctic Research Center
Danish Meteorological Institute (DMI) – Centre for Ocean and Ice
Nansen Environmental and Remote Sensing Center (NERSC)
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
Cryosphere Today – Arctic Climate Research at the University of Illinois
EC/Canadian Ice Service Map

[link to wattsupwiththat.com]

From Science Daily: short and sweet explanation of what sudden bigass methane does to cause mass extinction event:

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

In an article published in the September issue of Geology, Gregory Ryskin, associate professor of chemical engineering, suggests that huge combustible clouds produced by methane gas trapped in stagnant bodies of water and suddenly released could have killed off the majority of marine life and land animals and plants at the end of the Permian era -- long before dinosaurs lived and died.
The mechanism also might explain other extinctions and climate perturbations (ice ages) and even the Biblical flood, as well as be the cause of future catastrophes.

Ryskin calculated that some 10,000 gigatons of dissolved methane could have accumulated in water near the ocean floor under high pressure. If released quickly, perhaps triggered by an earthquake, the resulting cloud of methane would have an explosive force about 10,000 times greater than the world's entire stockpile of nuclear weapons. The huge conflagrations plus flooding and overturned oceans would cause the extinctions. (Approximately 95 percent of marine species and 70 percent of land species were lost.)

"That amount of energy is absolutely staggering," said Ryskin. "As soon as one accepts this mechanism, it becomes clear that if it happened once it could happen again. I have little doubt there will be another methane-driven eruption -- though not on the same scale as 251 million years ago -- unless humans intervene."

^^PS article is old, but information is compelling!

The only one throwing around names (racist, stupid, nongs, pathetic, cardboard cutout and dense)is you my friend.

As you put it, the only answer is from science. The same science that had people believing the Earth was flat & Pluto was a planet.

I can see why you choose to degenerate into name calling, which is a total waste of everyone's time.

Peace

Fortunately as a cell-bio major, I can work around that, especially if I am willing to travel, and speak more than English.

Last Edited by Patrick Bateman on 03/27/2013 05:11 PM

mate!

interesting concept - hadnt occured to me but im a knower (as aposed to a believer) so who knows.

The planets are going back to how thet were billions and millions of years ago.Hot and humid,if you cant the heat you will be exterminated.So you better head to the uk,and russian area because those areas are gonna be cold,they will be going through a mini ice age,while other areas will be warm and humid.I think this is called The Entrophy Of Gia..

The price of oil is a world price, mostly. What would a cell-bio major in the petroleum biz? Forgive my stupid question -- I'm in the bitumen ghetto up here.

That's a lot of hot air.

this!

This might be true but I remember being in college in 1974 and hearing almost word-for-word the same message in a lecture....and yet that was a long a time ago and life hasn't ended and a bunch of stuff has happened in the meantime.

Maybe this time its different, I don't know, but they have been calling doom for a long time now and life seeems to go on.

No I am not. But of course, blinkered denial runs strong in your cranial cavity.

Thatcher was pontificating regarding the agenda of the first Rio Conference on BBC tv whilst I was at school in Devon. No one was saying as you seemed to have understood. What they were in fact saying was that it was wiser to avoid that risk.

In fact I dont ever remember anyone calling doom apart from James Lovelock and more recently, James Hanson. To date, the message has been one of avoiding the risk.

this also connected with OP topic and very interesting in arctic-news blogspot:
[link to arctic-news.blogspot.co.uk]
Methane linked to Seismic Activity in the Arctic

What was living on the planet before all the methane froze in the first place?

why dont they put the methane in big tanks and use it outside the atmosfere of the earth ?

like rocket fuel for big misions to other planets.

first you startup with normal rocket fuel,and whene you are out of the atmosfere of the earth you can use the methanegas.

store lots of the gas on the moon ,there is a lot of room :)

that gas we can use to generate lot`s things if we use it out of oure earthy atmosfere

energy ?

Strange a few days ago i posted the same articles on the same website over the same subject and no one seemed to care.

A few days later i'm amazed by seeing the same old news getting pinned with 15 pages of comments?

Anyways i'm glad the methane debacle is catching up.

Here is a few websites that those interested in the subject might wanna check.

[link to nsidc.org]

[link to www.arctic.io]

The global warming is being caused by a warming in sea temperatures which is caused from the sea floor bottom.

Infact every planet in our solar system is experiencing change. Even the sun is getting warmer that's the reason why it is magnetically weak. (lack of sunspots...)

Something is changing the vacuum medium. (the cosmic equilibrium within the vacuum of our solar system.)

Wether it is the arrival of nibiru or something else remains to be seen.

Capture and containment would be an issue, I suspect. If it was feasible, IPO's would be launched. I worked in the angel finance sector and no good idea goes unnoticed.