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ITALIAN MARKET TANKING!!! BIG BANKS HALTED!!! Italian downgrade rumor is back!!! -2,70%, SPAIN -2,70%

 
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Cyprus Market‏@russian_market36 s
THIS-> @Neil_Irwin Speedy reversal from earlier @Kelly_Evans Dijsselbloem statement: Cyprus is a unique case.no models or templates are used
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I'm expecting the next move of Russians. I wonder how many goerment puppets had more than 100000 euros in ONE account. Or they managed it to create several of 99.999 in the previous days?
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Going up a little bit now, but peaked in 1.2834

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Eurogroup Head Says He Did Not Say What He Said; Confirms "It Is Serious" Again [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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Eurogroup Head Says He Did Not Say What He Said; Confirms "It Is Serious" Again [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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lmao
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Eurogroup Head Says He Did Not Say What He Said; Confirms "It Is Serious" Again [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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say what?

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zerohedge‏@zerohedge2 min
Eurogroup Head Says He Did Not Say What He Said; Confirms "It Is Serious" Again [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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say what?

scratching
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Mario Draghi (not)‏@mariodragi3 min
I deny what I deny that I deny when I deny why I deny where I deny and whom I deny. #Dijsselbloem banana2
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge2 min
Eurogroup Head Says He Did Not Say What He Said; Confirms "It Is Serious" Again [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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say what?

scratching
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Mario Draghi (not)‏@mariodragi3 min
I deny what I deny that I deny when I deny why I deny where I deny and whom I deny. #Dijsselbloem banana2
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chuckle
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge2 min
Eurogroup Head Says He Did Not Say What He Said; Confirms "It Is Serious" Again [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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say what?

scratching
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Mario Draghi (not)‏@mariodragi3 min
I deny what I deny that I deny when I deny why I deny where I deny and whom I deny. #Dijsselbloem banana2
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I beg your pardon?
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge2 min
Eurogroup Head Says He Did Not Say What He Said; Confirms "It Is Serious" Again [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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say what?

scratching
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Mario Draghi (not)‏@mariodragi3 min
I deny what I deny that I deny when I deny why I deny where I deny and whom I deny. #Dijsselbloem banana2
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I beg your pardon?
 Quoting: CripplingLies


too much pot... stoner
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge2 min
Eurogroup Head Says He Did Not Say What He Said; Confirms "It Is Serious" Again [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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say what?

scratching
 Quoting: No More Lies


Mario Draghi (not)‏@mariodragi3 min
I deny what I deny that I deny when I deny why I deny where I deny and whom I deny. #Dijsselbloem banana2
 Quoting: Luisport


1rof1
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Eurogroup Backtracks On Controversial Comments About The Cyprus Deal As A Restructuring Template [FULL TEXT] [link to read.bi]
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Re: ITALIAN MARKET TANKING!!! BIG BANKS HALTED!!! Italian downgrade rumor is back!!! -2,70%, SPAIN -2,70%
how long do they think they can stop people withdrawing their money? they cant hang on to it forever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34765812


Sure they can. Capital controls can stay on place for a long time if another bailout in needed in the interim and those funds are hit with yet another tax while still being held, most will never see their money again.

"How long could capital controls last?

If you believe Mr Barnier, only a few days.
But as JP Morgan highlighted in a note on Monday, Iceland's unlimited guarantee on domestic deposits managed to stem deposit outflows in late-2008 because the government guaranteed deposits in its own currency, and foreign exchange controls prevented money moving abroad.
"On the other hand, Cyprus is slated to impose losses on deposits based in Cyprus, but not in Cypriot banks' branches abroad, in essence reflecting the fact that its deposit haircut is set to be implemented as a domestic wealth tax," said Nikolaos Panigirtzoglou.
"The IMF forecasts the Iceland's capital controls will not be removed until 2015, suggesting that any Cypriot capital controls could turn out to be quite extended."

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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not really gonna help poor old cyprus is it
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Business Insider‏@businessinsider1 min
A Gigantic Pension Fund Is Reportedly Considering A Change That Should Make Investment Mangers Freak Out [link to read.bi]
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge2 min
Eurogroup Head Says He Did Not Say What He Said; Confirms "It Is Serious" Again [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
 Quoting: Luisport


say what?

scratching
 Quoting: No More Lies


Mario Draghi (not)‏@mariodragi3 min
I deny what I deny that I deny when I deny why I deny where I deny and whom I deny. #Dijsselbloem banana2
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1rof1
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and to think these people are in charge


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Re: ITALIAN MARKET TANKING!!! BIG BANKS HALTED!!! Italian downgrade rumor is back!!! -2,70%, SPAIN -2,70%
Tanking??? WHen we start closing in on a 30% drop then I will get interested. Until then this shit is flucuation.
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same old BS

we (me and Silvio) are monitoring the situation over here

everything it's OK

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The cause?
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Gambling... the House always wins in the end... the task is to figure out who is the House.
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Everything is happening too fast in last weeks. It looks like someone is trying to distract common people from something really big and secret... burnit
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Great buying occasions.
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FT Alphaville Rips Into Dijsselbloem, Says He Should Be Fired [link to read.bi]
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Minister Dijsselbloem is reportedly now trying to Unring a Bell.
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Bank stocks down today in the US markets- BAC, JPM, WFC, C, GS all down today.
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EURUSD = FALLING PIANO FROM THE ROOF
 Quoting: Luisport


Oil off more than a dollar from it's daily high...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Because everyone is going to cash and putting it into the banks !

laugh
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Market will go up in 4 hours.
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The Comex will be closing then and the expiry expired !!

I agree !!!!!!!!!!!
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge1 min
ANASTASIADES SAYS EUROGROUP DEAL IS PAINFUL, BEST AVAILABLE

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ANASTASIADES SAYS AIMED ONLY TO SAVE CYPRIOT ECONOMY.

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Cyprus president speaks on TV
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how long do they think they can stop people withdrawing their money? they cant hang on to it forever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34765812


Sure they can. Capital controls can stay on place for a long time if another bailout in needed in the interim and those funds are hit with yet another tax while still being held, most will never see their money again.

"How long could capital controls last?

If you believe Mr Barnier, only a few days.
But as JP Morgan highlighted in a note on Monday, Iceland's unlimited guarantee on domestic deposits managed to stem deposit outflows in late-2008 because the government guaranteed deposits in its own currency, and foreign exchange controls prevented money moving abroad.
"On the other hand, Cyprus is slated to impose losses on deposits based in Cyprus, but not in Cypriot banks' branches abroad, in essence reflecting the fact that its deposit haircut is set to be implemented as a domestic wealth tax," said Nikolaos Panigirtzoglou.
"The IMF forecasts the Iceland's capital controls will not be removed until 2015, suggesting that any Cypriot capital controls could turn out to be quite extended."

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36840093


not really gonna help poor old cyprus is it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34765812


Nope. Or the EU for that matter.

"The Cypriot bank-restructuring plan may not raise sufficient funds. It will encourage deposit flight, compounding the problems. As with Greece, there is a risk that Cyprus will need additional assistance, entailing further write-offs of depositors’ funds. And, as with Greece, privatization proceeds and the revenue from increased taxes may not reach targeted levels.

In 147 banking crises since 1970 tracked by the IMF, no depositors, irrespective of the amounts held and the banks with whom the deposits were placed, suffered losses.

The proposed restructuring also destroys the Cypriot banking industry.

The transfer of losses to depositors and imposition of capital controls make it highly likely that activity will shift to other locations. Given that banking is a major economic activity, this reduces Cyprus’s capacity to pay back its creditors.

Russian businesses are unlikely to continue to patronize Cyrus. Press reports quoted one Russian businessman’s wry observation that the EU had killed Cyprus in one day: “When the Russians leave, who is going to stay at the Four Seasons for $500 a night? Angela Merkel?”



Greater risk to euro zone

Irrespective of the fate of Cyprus, the solution adopted for the country will exacerbate the European debt crisis.


First, the transfer of losses to depositors creates a dangerous precedent. In 147 banking crises since 1970 tracked by the IMF, no depositors, irrespective of the amounts held and the banks with whom the deposits were placed, suffered losses.

Depositors in weak banks in weak countries now may consider the risk of loss or confiscation. This may trigger capital flight from banks in Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Italy and Spain."

[link to www.marketwatch.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36840093


Next question. Where are those russians going to deposit now?
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge2 min
Eurogroup Head Says He Did Not Say What He Said; Confirms "It Is Serious" Again [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
 Quoting: Luisport


say what?

scratching
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Mario Draghi (not)‏@mariodragi3 min
I deny what I deny that I deny when I deny why I deny where I deny and whom I deny. #Dijsselbloem banana2
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1rof1
 Quoting: Gespenst


You forgot ... if I deny.

1rof1

Last Edited by Renegade () on 03/25/2013 12:11 PM
Who is John Galt?
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same old BS

we (me and Silvio) are monitoring the situation over here

everything it's OK


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36831867


Man she does look uncomfortable in her expressions. but I will admit.


I did Fap ! chuckle

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